'10 LA QB Benton "Munchie" Legaux

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He looks like somebody Miss St would be looking at...A pure option QB with some passing skills...Seems to hesitate at times when throwing and notice he gets clobbered a few times after letting go of the pass...Tells me he has a slow release...That's just my observation and means absolutely nothing...I just don't see how this guy is even on the staffs radar, I thought they were looking for pro style types, No offense but this kid is about as far from that as they come...But hey they make the big bucks evaluating talent not me.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
He looks like somebody Miss St would be looking at...A pure option QB with some passing skills...Seems to hesitate at times when throwing and notice he gets clobbered a few times after letting go of the pass...Tells me he has a slow release...That's just my observation and means absolutely nothing...I just don't see how this guy is even on the staffs radar, I thought they were looking for pro style types, No offense but this kid is about as far from that as they come...But hey they make the big bucks evaluating talent not me.
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If he is in a situation where he has to be the star, then he runs more,,,, High School is light years behind college in talent at least in D-1, so he is a product of his system. I think if Chaney likes him, I will too.
 
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gota think to the O Linemen are not as good on that level and break down alot faster too. but our line from last year would have made him feel at home.
 
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From everything that I've heard discussed, this camp is his opportunity to show he can be a QB in this offense. If he cannot, then we will either bring him in as an athlete if he is willing or go in another direction.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
He looks like somebody Miss St would be looking at...A pure option QB with some passing skills...Seems to hesitate at times when throwing and notice he gets clobbered a few times after letting go of the pass...Tells me he has a slow release...That's just my observation and means absolutely nothing...I just don't see how this guy is even on the staffs radar, I thought they were looking for pro style types, No offense but this kid is about as far from that as they come...But hey they make the big bucks evaluating talent not me.
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He needs some work, no doubt about it. But don't underestimate him. At the combines this spring he has impressed some people with his footwork and mechanics that were thinking the same as you do. Mechanics can be taught. The staff offered him for a reason. It is the same reason that it has already been confirmed that Munchie will make huge jumps in the QB ratings when they are released again...

Sabanocchio said:
From everything that I've heard discussed, this camp is his opportunity to show he can be a QB in this offense. If he cannot, then we will either bring him in as an athlete if he is willing or go in another direction.
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I read on Scout where he said he wanted a shot to play QB in college, but if that didn't work out, he was definitely open to playing another position...
 
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Lord Vader said:
He needs some work, no doubt about it. But don't underestimate him. At the combines this spring he has impressed some people with his footwork and mechanics that were thinking the same as you do. Mechanics can be taught. The staff offered him for a reason. It is the same reason that it has already been confirmed that Munchie will make huge jumps in the QB ratings when they are released again...
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They absolutely, positively did not offer him for the same reason that he will make jumps in the rankings, if he even does.
I read on Scout where he said he wanted a shot to play QB in college, but if that didn't work out, he was definitely open to playing another position...
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Wow! Are you finally grasping what I'm saying about the kid? All I have ever said is that he doesn't fit this offense as a QB and you have been arguing that for weeks now. Coaches know more than you, Scout says this blah, blah, blah. Yet, now you concede that he may be fully aware that he may not be a QB at this level. Wow.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I didn't see anyone ask you for your opinion. Back to your hole.
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Nobody wants yours either jackass. Let's get this straight though, you trust the staff's opinion over everybody else, but your evaluation of info from rivals/scout/etc is somehow better than everybody else? Just putting things in perspective here, you both have no clue...you both will wait til Brent Hubbs/LWS/Bryant/nyc tells you the next new info... There is one thing though. You do make a damn fine avatar. Props for that
 
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the.one.the.only said:
Let's get this straight though, you trust the staff's opinion over everybody else, but your evaluation of info from rivals/scout/etc is somehow better than everybody else? Just putting things in perspective here, you both have no clue...you both will wait til Brent Hubbs/LWS/Bryant/nyc tells you the next new info... There is one thing though. You do make a damn fine avatar. Props for that
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No, not EVERYBODY else. Just the goobs that don't have a clue what they are seeing when they watch film.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
They absolutely, positively did not offer him for the same reason that he will make jumps in the rankings, if he even does.
Wow! Are you finally grasping what I'm saying about the kid? All I have ever said is that he doesn't fit this offense as a QB and you have been arguing that for weeks now. Coaches know more than you, Scout says this blah, blah, blah. Yet, now you concede that he may be fully aware that he may not be a QB at this level. Wow.
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Seriously Sab, you are going WAY overboard on Munchie just cuz of Hendrix. I think you are starting to make stuff up in your mind about Munchie and Hendrix to try and fuel your argument. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how good these guys will be in college and ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how the staff REALLY feels...

All I know is the UT staff offered him as a QB and have never mentioned anything to him about playing another position. I also know that he is one of the Lemming 100 as a QB and that Scout has confirmed that his ranking will be going up...

I didn't concede anything. I was giving info. Do you think I would concede on a guy who is going to end up as a top 10 QB in this class (Munchie)?

the.one.the.only said:
Both of yall have no clue so it doesn't really matter either way. There, happy?
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This is what I keep telling Sab. We neither one have any clue how good these guys are. All I know about the QBs is what I read about the opinions of our staff and recruiting analysts. But Sab keeps insisting that he knows exactly what each QB can do by watching 5 minutes of game film. He knows more than people who have coached QBs for years and guys who go to every combine/camp/etc. and who also get paid to evaluate talent...
 
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Lord Vader said:
Seriously Sab, you are going WAY overboard on Munchie just cuz of Hendrix. I think you are starting to make stuff up in your mind about Munchie and Hendrix to try and fuel your argument. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how good these guys will be in college and ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how the staff REALLY feels...

All I know is the UT staff offered him as a QB and have never mentioned anything to him about playing another position. I also know that he is one of the Lemming 100 as a QB and that Scout has confirmed that his ranking will be going up...

I didn't concede anything. I was giving info. Do you think I would concede on a guy who is going to end up as a top 10 QB in this class (Munchie)?



This is what I keep telling Sab. We neither one have any clue how good these guys are. All I know about the QBs is what I read about the opinions of our staff and recruiting analysts. But Sab keeps insisting that he knows exactly what each QB can do by watching 5 minutes of game film. He knows more than people who have coached QBs for years and guys who go to every combine/camp/etc. and who also get paid to evaluate talent...
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See, this is why we are having this ongoing "discussion." You keep misunderstanding where I'm coming from and what I'm saying. Hendrix is a much better fit for our offense than Legaux. He is a much better passer than Legaux. I am also confident that the coaches see this as well because it's painfully obvious just by looking at him throw for any length of time. They obviously want a better look and are at least going to give him a chance at camp, I just don't think he earns that shot based on what I've seen. I have never said Legaux is not good or not deserving of his ranking. I think he can be a good QB in a spread offense. He could likely excel. I just don't think he is a QB in our offense. I don't think he ever makes that jump that turns him into Kiffin's kind of guy.

Yes, Hendrix is obviously a better fit. He is Kiffin's prototypical passer. Does he need work? Absolutely. Is he the next coming of Peyton/Shuler/Ainge/anyone in UT history? Who the hell knows? But right now, I think he's the best QB not named Heaps or Scroggins available and that's not saying a whole lot since I think there is a drop-off after Scroggins. No one is ready. No one is spectacular.

There. Maybe now you get it.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
He is a much better passer than Legaux. I am also confident that the coaches see this as well because it's painfully obvious just by looking at him throw for any length of time. They obviously want a better look and are at least going to give him a chance at camp, I just don't think he earns that shot based on what I've seen. I just don't think he is a QB in our offense.
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And this is where you and I disagree. I'm not sure he is a better passer than Legaux based on what everybody is saying about Munchie. I do not think the coaches are seeing what you are becuase he has a scholarship offer to UT to play QB. The staff has not mentioned playing another position and are recruiting him harder than any school...

Honestly, don't you think the staff looked a little harder into him than just watching his 4 minute game film before they offered? They've watched his mechanics, dropbacks, accuracy, arm strength, etc. in person and seen what he has done in the combines and at camps. The problem I have is you saying that Munchie cannot be a dropback passer when everyone else is saying the opposite...

Yes, Hendrix is obviously a better fit. He is Kiffin's prototypical passer. Does he need work? Absolutely. Is he the next coming of Peyton/Shuler/Ainge/anyone in UT history? Who the hell knows? But right now, I think he's the best QB not named Heaps or Scroggins available and that's not saying a whole lot since I think there is a drop-off after Scroggins. No one is ready. No one is spectacular.

There. Maybe now you get it.
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Most of this is fine by me. That's your opinion and you may very well end up being right. One problem I do have is "obviously." Apparently it isn't obvious to the Vol staff since Munchie has an offer. The other problem is where you act like there are, 100% for sure, no other good QBs out there. You have no clue whether there is or not...

I know that I know nothing about these guys. I go on what other people say about them. What we are continuously arguing about is your "evaluations" of these players...
 
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Lord Vader said:
And this is where you and I disagree. I'm not sure he is a better passer than Legaux based on what everybody is saying about Munchie. I do not think the coaches are seeing what you are becuase he has a scholarship offer to UT to play QB. The staff has not mentioned playing another position and are recruiting him harder than any school...

Honestly, don't you think the staff looked a little harder into him than just watching his 4 minute game film before they offered? They've watched his mechanics, dropbacks, accuracy, arm strength, etc. in person and seen what he has done in the combines and at camps. The problem I have is you saying that Munchie cannot be a dropback passer when everyone else is saying the opposite...



Most of this is fine by me. That's your opinion and you may very well end up being right. One problem I do have is "obviously." Apparently it isn't obvious to the Vol staff since Munchie has an offer. The other problem is where you act like there are, 100% for sure, no other good QBs out there. You have no clue whether there is or not...

I know that I know nothing about these guys. I go on what other people say about them. What we are continuously arguing about is your "evaluations" of these players...
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It seems that your entire contingent is based on Munchie having an offer as a QB, which no one is even sure of. Munchie says it is, but no one else seems to think so. Not Bryant at scout, (see the article about the QB board just recently) not Hubbs, and not X. Throw me in there as well. Everyone says that he is going to have to prove himself at camp. He is going to have to show the coaches something while he is here. If he does that and impresses the coaches enough to bring him in, then I will concede that he can do it. Until then, I will side with the rest in the "I'm not so sure" category. There is nothing I see from him that convinces me he is a fit for this offense.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
It seems that your entire contingent is based on Munchie having an offer as a QB, which no one is even sure of. Munchie says it is, but no one else seems to think so.
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If the kid doesn't care about lying to writers when he knows the staff will see it, you may be right. But if he comes in and has a bad camp, he will then have an offer to a school with no interest in him. But I do not at all expect him to have a bad camp. He done very well at the UGA Nike combine in late April as we have already discussed. I thought that was the only combine that he has been to this spring. Not the case. He attended the combine in New Orleans in early April, a combine in which Vol commits Anthony Johnson and Broussard tore it up. This may be where the staff first saw him as a real QB prospect, and the UGA combine sealed the deal for an offer...

While Trovon Reed is Louisiana’s top ranked player for 2010, it was Munchie Legaux who took home the Offensive MVP award.
The New Orleans (La.) Edna Karr quarterback certainly looked the part at 6-foot-3 and 180 pounds. He also ran a good 40-yard dash at 4.82 seconds, but the passing drills were where he really shined.
Legaux showed that he could make all of the throws and rarely did he throw a pass that was off the mark in individual or one on one drills. Some have questioned whether Legaux was a quarterback or an athlete who just happened to play quarterback.
“People always question whether or not I’m a quarterback or an athlete,” he said. “I’m a quarterback though and I think I did a good job of showing that.”
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Legaux made all the throws on Sunday and may have put himself into position to be the top quarterback in the state of Louisiana as we go into the 2009 season. He showed very good touch, he threw the deep ball well, he showed above average arm strength, and he really transitioned his weight well when making the throws. He was very impressive, he did not make a bad throw, and he solidified himself as one of the best in his home state.
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i don't think anyone outside of the coaches really knows the order after Heaps and Scroggins. CLK has been known to always look for ways to get better and improve himself and his offense.

Next week's camps will be huge for both Scroggins and Munchie to make their case.
 
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