'10 LA QB Benton "Munchie" Legaux

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One has to wonder exactly where this guy stands with everything. I hear "He has a TON of upside", then I hear "This guy is a project". I don't know if this guy even knows where everyone stands on him. I would say that MOST teams are going to see how he does during his senior year then go from there. It may be over with Munchie as far as we go, but this guy MAY end up being the best out of the group.
 
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Tried to stay out of this thread. But Munchie is to big of a project for us to take on. You don't know if he'll ever be real good. We don't have time to wait on a player like him. Sorry Vader but he just doesn't fit the Vols.
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Lockdown1 said:
Tried to stay out of this thread. But Munchie is to big of a project for us to take on. You don't know if he'll ever be real good. We don't have time to wait on a player like him. Sorry Vader but he just doesn't fit the Vols.
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next time i would go with my first instinct.
 
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If we are looking for a big receiver I'd go with Milton and Prater over Munchie.

Munchie still has his senior year to play well. I guess you never know, he may turn out great.
 
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MDBJJC said:
If we are looking for a big receiver I'd go with Milton and Prater over Munchie.

Munchie still has his senior year to play well. I guess you never know, he may turn out great.
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dont forget about brandon terry, could be a real diamond in the rough.
 
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MDBJJC said:
If we are looking for a big receiver I'd go with Milton and Prater over Munchie.

Munchie still has his senior year to play well. I guess you never know, he may turn out great.
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Munchie will not play WR in college, IMO. He's QB or bust, whether he plays Major D-1 or Mid-Major.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
One has to wonder exactly where this guy stands with everything. I hear "He has a TON of upside", then I hear "This guy is a project". I don't know if this guy even knows where everyone stands on him. I would say that MOST teams are going to see how he does during his senior year then go from there. It may be over with Munchie as far as we go, but this guy MAY end up being the best out of the group.
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That's saying a whole lot, Eric. I'm not sure even the Munchie defenders think he could end up being one of the best out of this crop of QBs. You can look at a prospect like Bell and see it. He's a project. This guy isn't. He may eventually develop into a pretty good spread QB. That's what suits his tools best, but he'll never be one of the top QBs from this class. I think Heaps, Bell, Sims, and Scroggins have the most likelihood of success at the next level and there will be 2 or 3 guys that aren't recruited heavily that end up emerging. I have all those guys clearly ahead of Munchie.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
That's saying a whole lot, Eric. I'm not sure even the Munchie defenders think he could end up being one of the best out of this crop of QBs. You can look at a prospect like Bell and see it. He's a project. This guy isn't. He may eventually develop into a pretty good spread QB. That's what suits his tools best, but he'll never be one of the top QBs from this class. I think Heaps, Bell, Sims, and Scroggins have the most likelihood of success at the next level and there will be 2 or 3 guys that aren't recruited heavily that end up emerging. I have all those guys clearly ahead of Munchie.
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I'm going based off of when you look back 4 years from now. Noticed I also said MAY. I don't think most looked at Colt McCoy and thought he was going to do the things he has done up to this point, nor Sam Bradford.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I'm going based off of when you look back 4 years from now. Noticed I also said MAY. I don't think most looked at Colt McCoy and thought he was going to do the things he has done up to this point, nor Sam Bradford.
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So am I, but since you're saying it about Munchie, then he isn't in the Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy category. Thing is, Oklahoma and Texas saw enough in those guys to offer a scholarship. That argument is tired anyway. It's the exception rather than the rule. Besides, those guys truly came out of nowhere. The fact that we are talking about Munchie means that schools have been looking at him for awhile.

Best out of that bunch is a HUGE stretch. There is no evidence whatsoever to back that up. You could just as easily say that Tommy Rees will end up the best out of the bunch since, you know, Colt McCoy and blah, blah, blah.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
So am I, but since you're saying it about Munchie, then he isn't in the Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy category. Thing is, Oklahoma and Texas saw enough in those guys to offer a scholarship. That argument is tired anyway. It's the exception rather than the rule. Besides, those guys truly came out of nowhere. The fact that we are talking about Munchie means that schools have been looking at him for awhile.

Best out of that bunch is a HUGE stretch. There is no evidence whatsoever to back that up. You could just as easily say that Tommy Rees will end up the best out of the bunch since, you know, Colt McCoy and blah, blah, blah.
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Which is exactly why I am saying that we don't know and to try and be so definitive at this point is just a bit of a stretch in itself.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Which is exactly why I am saying that we don't know and to try and be so definitive at this point is just a bit of a stretch in itself.
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Well yeah, in the same sense that we may win a national championship this year. Of course we won't know anything definitively. That's why it's fun to speculate.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Well yeah, in the same sense that we may win a national championship this year. Of course we won't know anything definitively. That's why it's fun to speculate.
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I guess what gets me is that people are writing this kid off from being a good QB or great QB by the time his college career is over. That's been a little too definitive to me at this point. Kid may be rough around the edges, but he will do well somewhere.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I guess what gets me is that people are writing this kid off from being a good QB or great QB by the time his college career is over. That's been a little too definitive to me at this point. Kid may be rough around the edges, but he will do well somewhere.
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Who writing him off? I've always maintained that he has a lot of potential in a spread offense. It's just that his weaknesses make him a poor option for a pro-style system.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Who writing him off? I've always maintained that he has a lot of potential in a spread offense. It's just that his weaknesses make him a poor option for a pro-style system.
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Munchie has a higher upside than Brunetti, IMO. Munchie may end up not being worth a crap in college, but so could any of these other guys we are looking at. It's really amazing how things work out for most of the HS QB's that are recruited. There are a lot more busts than stars.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Munchie has a higher upside than Brunetti, IMO. Munchie may end up not being worth a crap in college, but so could any of these other guys we are looking at. It's really amazing how things work out for most of the HS QB's that are recruited. There are a lot more busts than stars.
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Based on what? Brunetti can make all the throws just like Munchie. His throwing style also doesn't lead to batted down passes at the line, fumbles, ect. If you watch the two, Brunetti actually releases the ball at a higher point than Legaux and he's 4 inches shorter.

Saying that a guy has more upside just because he's 4 inches taller is ridiculous. Just watch the two on tape. It's easy to see who has the more "upside." Here's another hint...the coaches preferred Brunetti over Legaux. Says a lot IMO.

Another fun discussion BTW. :)
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Based on what? Brunetti can make all the throws just like Munchie. His throwing style also doesn't lead to batted down passes at the line, fumbles, ect. If you watch the two, Brunetti actually releases the ball at a higher point than Legaux and he's 4 inches shorter.

Saying that a guy has more upside just because he's 4 inches taller is ridiculous. Just watch the two on tape. It's easy to see who has the more "upside." Here's another hint...the coaches preferred Brunetti over Legaux. Says a lot IMO.

Another fun discussion BTW. :)
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I never mentioned Munchie's height as an advantage, at least not in this discussion. Your kinda putting words there to help your argument brother. :good!:
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I never mentioned Munchie's height as an advantage, at least not in this discussion. Your kinda putting words there to help your argument brother. :good!:
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Well, I just assumed since there is no other basis for the argument whatsoever. Doesn't help my argument at all. In fact a completely different viewpoint would be easier to shoot down. Perhaps you'd like to include a supposed one.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Well, I just assumed since there is no other basis for the argument whatsoever. Doesn't help my argument at all. In fact a completely different viewpoint would be easier to shoot down. Perhaps you'd like to include a supposed one.
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I just wonder why people consider Brunetti and better prospect than Munchie?? I think we could all look back at this thread in a few years and either perspective could be proven wrong. Time will only tell. As far as viewpoints go, it's kind of fruitless to argue a QB with you my friend. Your VERY set on the way you see things, so accepting or receiving someone else's opinion isn't something you have done very well in relation to how certain QB's may or may not work in our system. Nothing wrong with that though, it's just who you are.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I just wonder why people consider Brunetti and better prospect than Munchie?? I think we could all look back at this thread in a few years and either perspective could be proven wrong. Time will only tell. As far as viewpoints go, it's kind of fruitless to argue a QB with you my friend. Your VERY set on the way you see things, so accepting or receiving someone else's opinion isn't something you have done very well in relation to how certain QB's may or may not work in our system. Nothing wrong with that though, it's just who you are.
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It's just on Munchie. Everyone said I was on Andrew Hendrix's jock just because I said he was clearly a better prospect than Munchie and he is. There is plenty of evidence out there as to why I feel the way I do about Munchie. I'm not making up the fact that he has no offers as a pro-style QB. I form my opinions based on the evidence that is available. Unless that evidence changes, my opinion won't.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
It's just on Munchie. Everyone said I was on Andrew Hendrix's jock just because I said he was clearly a better prospect than Munchie and he is. There is plenty of evidence out there as to why I feel the way I do about Munchie. I'm not making up the fact that he has no offers as a pro-style QB. I form my opinions based on the evidence that is available. Unless that evidence changes, my opinion won't.
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Hendrix runs the spread offense, but is listed as a PS QB. What if it was the other way around and he was listed as a DT QB, what would you say about him?? I still think that we may not have a QB until fall, for reason we want QB's to see our offense in action. BTW, I'm not advocating that Munchie come here. I think that he does need to go to a more spread offense team that is balanced.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Hendrix runs the spread offense, but is listed as a PS QB. What if it was the other way around and he was listed as a DT QB, what would you say about him?? I still think that we may not have a QB until fall, for reason we want QB's to see our offense in action. BTW, I'm not advocating that Munchie come here. I think that he does need to go to a more spread offense team that is balanced.
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What does what he's classified as on some BS recruiting website have to do with anything? Brunetti is a dual-threat also and he's a much more polished passer. He would fit much better in a pro style system than Munchie. I can't see Munchie ever developing into a consistent down-the-field passer. That's the difference.

And your theory about Scroggins going elsewhere seems in jeopardy BTW. Think you're gonna end up wrong about that one.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
What does what he's classified as on some BS recruiting website have to do with anything? Brunetti is a dual-threat also and he's a much more polished passer. He would fit much better in a pro style system than Munchie.

And your theory about Scroggins going elsewhere seems in jeopardy BTW. Think you're gonna end up wrong about that one.
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How so?? I didn't see anything that remotely resembled a commitment or a huge change. I don't even think he named UT a leader.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
How so?? I didn't see anything that remotely resembled a commitment or a huge change. I don't even think he named UT a leader.
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He pretty much did.

“I’m loving the trip actually,” the 6-foot-3, 195-pound Scroggins from Lakewood (Calif.) High School said following UT’s camp on Saturday. “This is my mother’s home state. That gave them (the Vols) an advantage a little but I have not committed yet.”

“We used to play together when we were like five and six (years old) and we’ve been trying to hook up since, but it hasn’t really worked out yet,” Anderson said. “Hopefully Tennessee can make that happen.”
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Sure sounds like we're the leader to me.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
He pretty much did.



Sure sounds like we're the leader to me.
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So let me get this straight....

1. Because it's his mom's home state that's giving us a little bit of an advantage and he hasn't committed yet.

2. He's also kinda try to put his cousin in front of the coaches and get them to offer him and that will help too??

Really doesn't sound like much has changed, and honestly it seems like he think that he has a bargaining chip that he really doesn't have in his cousin. From everything I have gathered, this guy isn't SEC material. I'm not wasting a scholly on another player just to get Scroggins. We got too many holes on offense to do that.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So let me get this straight....

1. Because it's his mom's home state that's giving us a little bit of an advantage and he hasn't committed yet.

2. He's also kinda try to put his cousin in front of the coaches and get them to offer him and that will help too??

Really doesn't sound like much has changed, and honestly it seems like he think that he has a bargaining chip that he really doesn't have in his cousin. From everything I have gathered, this guy isn't SEC material. I'm not wasting a scholly on another player just to get Scroggins. We got too many holes on offense to do that.
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Can't be any any worse than Benji Shuler. If signing Anderson is what I takes to get a QB here who doesn't kill groundhogs and cheerleaders, I'm all for it. I'm so tired of that being our Achilles heel.

It's probably moot anyway. I doubt his cousin is the deciding factor in him coming here.
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