'10 LA QB Benton "Munchie" Legaux

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Godfatha said:
Can't be any any worse than Benji Shuler. If signing Anderson is what I takes to get a QB here who doesn't kill groundhogs and cheerleaders, I'm all for it. I'm so tired of that being our Achilles heel.

It's probably moot anyway. I doubt his cousin is the deciding factor in him coming here.
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Amen!
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So let me get this straight....

1. Because it's his mom's home state that's giving us a little bit of an advantage and he hasn't committed yet.

2. He's also kinda try to put his cousin in front of the coaches and get them to offer him and that will help too??

Really doesn't sound like much has changed, and honestly it seems like he think that he has a bargaining chip that he really doesn't have in his cousin. From everything I have gathered, this guy isn't SEC material. I'm not wasting a scholly on another player just to get Scroggins. We got too many holes on offense to do that.
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And they likely won't. If the guy can't play, then they likely won't take him. That's not what I was pointing out. I was pointing out that he hopes Tennessee can "make that happen." Scroggins already has an offer. He "hopes" that we offer his cousin so he can play at UT with him. Not too difficult to read into that that we are his leader. And back to the first part, we have an "advantage" but he hasn't committed "yet." Come on, you must just be hoping we don't land Scroggins to not be able to read into that that we lead.

Another part of the article since you seem to be struggling with those quotes:

He maintained that he is still “wide open” concerning his college decision but it was clear UT had made a strong impression and likely vaulted into the lead.
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Plus the shot at USC getting in on him late....too many signs painting Scroggins in UT orange. I think we land him and it sticks all the way until Signing Day. He has had time to mull over where he wants to go. He will make an educated decision once he decides.
 
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Even if he verbals here, having the local school in your ear for the next 6 months will be an issue for us being 2,500 miles away.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Even if he verbals here, having the local school in your ear for the next 6 months will be an issue for us being 2,500 miles away.
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Oh, geez. Backpedal.

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I was just feeding your post somewhat. I don't believe he signs here, even if we get a verbal. I've had my fair share of crow, just like everyone else in this forum.
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And you have until February 3rd to be wrong now. Convenient. :)

Why is it that you feel that way? I want to know what you are basing it on. It can't just be that USC is some super recruiting machine, because so are we now. You can answer in the Scroggins thread to keep this from going too far OT.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Wheaton, I know you keep referring to his stats, but there are plenty of reasons he was able to put up big stats in High School. The tape on him tells a different tale. He is more raw than Blake Bell, but with Bell you have plenty you can work with. With Munchie, I think his throwing motion is already developed and there's not much tweaking you can do with it.
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Which tape? If you're referring to the spring game (which I haven't seen and I trust that he didn't do well), that is one performance on one day in an unfamiliar scheme.

If you watch his highlight tape, showing his performance during the season where he accumulated those good stats, you can see him making great throws, many of them long passes with touch over many different games.

I'm happy to hear that you and others don't want him. Fine by me. We'll take him in Eugene. :) I'm just curious how you can judge him based on one performance despite the larger body of evidence that we have to go from.

CountVolcula said:
His accuracy is only because he throws a limited amount of throws over 15 yards.
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He's hitting all kinds of 15+ yard passes in his highlight tape.

Sabanocchio said:
That's saying a whole lot, Eric. I'm not sure even the Munchie defenders think he could end up being one of the best out of this crop of QBs. You can look at a prospect like Bell and see it. He's a project. This guy isn't. He may eventually develop into a pretty good spread QB. That's what suits his tools best, but he'll never be one of the top QBs from this class. I think Heaps, Bell, Sims, and Scroggins have the most likelihood of success at the next level and there will be 2 or 3 guys that aren't recruited heavily that end up emerging. I have all those guys clearly ahead of Munchie.
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Why do you differentiate good spread QBs from top QBs in this class? Isn't Tebow a top QB and also a spread QB?

I think Munchie could develop into a top QB. Too early to know anything for sure. Same goes for any recruit.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Which tape? If you're referring to the spring game (which I haven't seen and I trust that he didn't do well), that is one performance on one day in an unfamiliar scheme.
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It's not based on one showing. And I'm not sure, but I don't think Edna Karr is changing offensive schemes this year. Not that I've heard of anyway. But Munchie has a lot of film on Rivals. I didn't like him before I ever saw his Spring Game film. His throwing motion is erratic, he's not consistent, and he's often inaccurate. Yeah he makes some good throws from time to time, but he'll often follow that with a WTF throw that leaves you scratching your head.

If you watch his highlight tape, showing his performance during the season where he accumulated those good stats, you can see him making great throws, many of them long passes with touch over many different games.
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A highlight tape is just that. A tape of your "highlights." Of course he made some good throws, it's not like he's a complete scrub. He is being recruited by some good schools. He's just waaay raw and to the point that he is a complete gamble.

I'm happy to hear that you and others don't want him. Fine by me. We'll take him in Eugene. :) I'm just curious how you can judge him based on one performance despite the larger body of evidence that we have to go from.
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He'd do okay after sitting for a few years and in a spread system. Don't expect him to contribute early and don't expect him to ever be all-world.

He's hitting all kinds of 15+ yard passes in his highlight tape.
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He has some darn good receivers too and plenty of time to deliver the football. Luxuries he may not have in college.

Why do you differentiate good spread QBs from top QBs in this class? Isn't Tebow a top QB and also a spread QB?
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Tebow is a good spread option QB. Put him in a pro-style system such as the one we are going to run and I don't think he looks nearly as good.
I think Munchie could develop into a top QB. Too early to know anything for sure. Same goes for any recruit.
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Too early to tell...maybe. I've seen enough to know that he wouldn't be a good fit here.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
A highlight tape is just that. A tape of your "highlights." Of course he made some good throws, it's not like he's a complete scrub. He is being recruited by some good schools. He's just waaay raw and to the point that he is a complete gamble.
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That's true. A highlight tape could be made to be deceptive. But, this highlight tape is the best of 69% accurate passes over-all.

Sabanocchio said:
Tebow is a good spread option QB. Put him in a pro-style system such as the one we are going to run and I don't think he looks nearly as good.
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I think that is most likely true. It's probably why he didn't do well at the spring game. Maybe he could do well in a pro-style if he had more time to practice it and get the hang of the differences, though.

Sabanocchio said:
Too early to tell...maybe. I've seen enough to know that he wouldn't be a good fit here.
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Probably true. Though, it seems that Brunetti was coming from the same place. Even Brunetti himself was "surprised" that UT was interested, due to his more dual-threat skill-set.
 
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i hope you folks do know that no matter who comes here, wheather it ben brunetti, legaux , scroggins, hendrix, they are not going to be thrown on the field and told to go get it, schools with good quarterback coaching always break down and build back up, it will be no differnt with scroggins if he comes here. its basicly what CDC did with ainge. you can do it the sanders way ? the cutcliffe way? or the kiffen/cheany/reeves way?
 
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I was wondering how or where we stand among his recruiting choices?
What do you think the coaches feel about him also?
 
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SFCKLG said:
I was wondering how or where we stand among his recruiting choices?
What do you think the coaches feel about him also?
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He couldn't even earn a scholarship at Baylor after camping there. They completely passed on him. Munchie has been overrated due to some perceived "upside." I don't think the upside is worth wasting a scholarship on and it appears that's the feeling among many coaching staffs as well

Many schools have passed on Legaux. Michigan took Devin Gardner over Legaux, West Virginia opted to take Barry Brunetti, and Oregon took a commitment just recently from 3* Brian Bennett and I'm not sure if they are taking another QB. The only schools still actively recruiting him are Tulane, Tulsa and Southern Miss. Some have said if he has a good senior year more schools would show interest, but he had an excellent junior campaign and he still doesn't hold many offers. Not committable ones anyway. Just another overhyped prospect that was exposed on the camp circuit. If Munchie is smart, he will allow for the possibility of playing WR because he would certainly garner a lot more attention that way.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Many schools have passed on Legaux. Michigan took Devin Gardner over Legaux, West Virginia opted to take Barry Brunetti, and Oregon took a commitment just recently from 3* Brian Bennett and I'm not sure if they are taking another QB.
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FWIW Oregon is still looking at QBs (Legaux, Bolden, Broadway and Gonzalez). Might take two this year due to QB Roper transferring.
 
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Wheatie is back. Prepare yourselves for the hatred posts.
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Not sure why, but people on this forum love to hate him. The whole losing Bryce thing chaffs the Duck Nation and we like to rub it in.

Ducks can take Munchie for all I care. It was apparent from our staff's reaction that he didn't have the goods for our style of O.
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MDBJJC said:
Not sure why, but people on this forum love to hate him. The whole losing Bryce thing chaffs the Duck Nation and we like to rub it in.
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I think that "amuses" is more accurate than "chaffs." Plus, he could still end up a Duck. Never know.

MDBJJC said:
Ducks can take Munchie for all I care. It was apparent from our staff's reaction that he didn't have the goods for our style of O.
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I agree that he wouldn't fit the UT offense unless it comes out a lot different than expected. But, I think he could be a great fit for Oregon.

BIG GUY said:
wheaton makes this board more fun jmo
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Thank you, sir. This board is fun. I don't mind being outnumbered and I'm a celebrity. ;)
 
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lol here comes wheaton and his multi quoted posts again. This should make things interesting.
 
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