'11 FL LB Gionni Paul

#826
#826
volunteerlane said:
I think there is another LB that we dont know about. According to "X" today he alse agrees.
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There better be. It's not like these dominant LBs are some obscure figures or something like that.

Dawson, for sure.
CJ Johnson?
JWJr?
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#827
#827
BmoreVol said:
Option #3 - when hubbs said its a "silent" night during the visit weekend he meant it, and anything subsequent is all BS to keep people like us running around in circles so the kid have his day to commit on his own terms.
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It has been a while, but if I remember correctly, J. B.'s "silent night" comment was directed solely at Marcus Johnson, not Paul.

Hubbs has been pretty clear that for whatever reason, he believes that the staff is, at a minimum, slow-playing Paul.

mlsoft
 
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#828
#828
JoeKyleVol said:
If we pass on Paul and miss on our big targets...I'm gonna be pissed...
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But, but aren't we just supposed to follow our staff blindly?

Likewise. Dawson or someone better be in Orange next year, or I am going to lose some faith. You don't pass on talent like this when you don't have any to begin with.
 
#829
#829
mlsoft said:
It has been a while, but if I remember correctly, Hubbs' "silent night" comment was directed solely at Marcus Johnson, not Paul.

Hubbs has been pretty clear that for whatever reason, he believes that the staff is, at a minimum, slow-playing Paul.

mlsoft
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You're thinking of JB. He does the silent night thing. And it was just for Marcus Jackson.
 
#832
#832
vol4eva said:
It's disappointing, but if the rumors are true about him being only 5'10 or '11 then that's to small to play lb. I can see where the staff is coming from this.
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Yea considering our best linebacker this year was barely 5'9.
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#833
#833
vol4eva said:
It's disappointing, but if the rumors are true about him being only 5'10 or '11 then that's to small to play lb. I can see where the staff is coming from this.
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Tennessee's had a number of starting LBs that size. But Dooley is from the Saban school, so maybe he wants to large up.
 
#835
#835
vol4eva said:
It's disappointing, but if the rumors are true about him being only 5'10 or '11 then that's to small to play lb. I can see where the staff is coming from this.
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I don't think size has anything to do with our passing on Paul. As stated earlier, the best option to solve this puzzle is that we have someone higher on our board and the numbers crunch precludes us from taking Paul. I think it is clear that had we been willing to take him, he was ready to commit -- he has now backed off, but just because we have backed off.

My guess is still that we have a silent commitment from either Dawson or another big time linebacker in our pocket and a very strong closing lineup that we feel good about.

mlsoft
 
#836
#836
This is one where I'm really going to have to trust the staff cause I'm honestly shocked by it...

I'm really worried that this will come back to bite us in the butt if we whiff on these other LB's
 
#838
#838
I'm trusting the staff as well. The article made it sound like TT & Louisville were his top 2. If that's the case then maybe most of the big programs have "cooled" on him....which makes it a little easier to swallow.

I'll trust the staff until I have good reason not to.
 
#839
#839
thunder5 said:
This is one where I'm really going to have to trust the staff cause I'm honestly shocked by it...

I'm really worried that this will come back to bite us in the butt if we whiff on these other LB's
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No if, it will bite us in the butt. I would rather drop a commit or refrain from taking another S and take Paul plus any "mystery" LB recruit. We need LBs in a comparably bad way to DTs.
 
#840
#840
Where are all of the "Let's take both Paul & Dawson & then drop/greyshirt somebody else" crowd now? :question:


Crickets.
 
#841
#841
PA Vol said:
But, but aren't we just supposed to follow our staff blindly?
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Follow them? You mean that if you don't "follow them" a better/different decision might be made.

You don't have to agree with their decisions but when you disagree it should be tempered by a couple of things. One, they have far more information and experience than you or the recruiting services. Two, they know how a guy's skill fits or does not fit into what they are building. Last and most important, their jobs are on the line- not yours and not even the recruiting analyst.
 
#843
#843
I'm sure the coaches know how much talent he has and know what they are doing. I doubt Thompson would pass on him unless he has other options.
 
#845
#845
sjt18 said:
Follow them? You mean that if you don't "follow them" a better/different decision might be made.

You don't have to agree with their decisions but when you disagree it should be tempered by a couple of things. One, they have far more information and experience than you or the recruiting services. Two, they know how a guy's skill fits or does not fit into what they are building. Last and most important, their jobs are on the line- not yours and not even the recruiting analyst.
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So when they screw up I should have every right to flame them. We pay them to be successful. If they wiff on a LB and don't take Paul than they were unsuccessful.
 
#846
#846
PA Vol said:
So when they screw up I should have every right to flame them. We pay them to be successful. If they wiff on a LB and don't take Paul than they were unsuccessful.
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Maybe wait until they actually do whiff on a LB before you start the flame thrower....or is all this angst you got going on just pre-flame warm-up?
 
#847
#847
The only indicator we have on this staff's ability to evaluate LBs is Propst, Crump & Jackson. All 3 of them have, by all accounts, looked like solid players for the future.

If we don't want Paul, then I suspect it's for good reason. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
 
#848
#848
TheMayja said:
The only indicator we have on this staff's ability to evaluate LBs is Propst, Crump & Jackson. All 3 of them have, by all accounts, looked like solid players for the future.

If we don't want Paul, then I suspect it's for good reason. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
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#849
#849
mlsoft said:
You are right, thanks. I corrected my post to reflect that.

mlsoft
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Yeah - i think after The Dooley said MJ was a silent a few weeks ago i just locked Marcus Jackson away as such. I didnt realize JB was only referring to Marcus when he made that comment.
 
#850
#850
PA Vol said:
So when they screw up I should have every right to flame them. We pay them to be successful. If they wiff on a LB and don't take Paul than they were unsuccessful.
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If they take Paul and he isn't talented enough or the right guy for the system but rather just occupies a scholarship for 5 years then they were also unsuccessful. You are sold on this guy. The coaches don't seem to be sold.

So no, you don't have a right to "flame them" since you have no way of knowing whether he would have been good or not. You are operating on the assumption that you "know" this kid is a future great SEC LB.

You'll have your opportunity to "flame them" if their failure to find the right players causes them to be unable to rebuild the program.

BTW, UT's LB situation isn't nearly as dire as DT or secondary. This kid IMO is similar skill and talent wise to some LB's already two years into the program like NMT and Nelson except maybe smaller.
 
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