'11 TN DB Derek King

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#326
Good luck to him...

IMO...he's a Vanderbilt caliber player...we've got bigger fish on the board at his position...

He'll do okay there and get a great education in the process
 
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thunder5 said:
Good luck to him...

IMO...he's a Vanderbilt caliber player...we've got bigger fish on the board at his position...

He'll do okay there and get a great education in the process
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Agreed. We are in desperate need of good DB's. Lanier would be a much better get. The staff really wants a JUCO DB who can step in and play from day 1.
 
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#328
I wish King would have went to UT, but I'm happy he's going to Vandy. I don't know about other Vols fans, but I pull for Vandy, except for when they play UT. I like to see them win, and I know King will help them.
 
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:salute: GOOD LUCK DEREK!

from all accounts, he's a very bright & Mature Young man, Hope he fulfills his potential
 
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My daughter is a classmate and a friend of Dereks at BA. Derek made an announcement on Tuesday that he was commiting to the Vols at a school assembly then was told later by the coaches that he waited too long to commit and UT was no longer offering him a scholarship. Derek was obviously very disapointed but he is a great kid and extremely bright and I am sure he will do great at Vandy. As others have said there is a dirty side of recruiting that we don't want to know about. It's just tougher to deal with when its a local kid that your family knows.
 
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#331
Sure enough, he's committed to the Navy Commandos. Best of luck to him; he'll be great for Vandy.
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#334
I think he is better than a typical Vandy player.

King would have been a nice fit for us, had he committed much earlier in the game.

the 'Dores got themselves a good football player
 
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Just do us all a favor, log out and lose your password. You have no clue what you're talking about. Seriously.
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Don't be that harash!

job preservation?
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Totally agree it just they way it is at the end of the day Dooley and the whole coaching staff have to put biscuits and gravy on the table and if you have a kid that you think can bring it better than the in-state guy or a fellow that once had a offer and you now have to snatch away; thats why Dooley has a 6/7 figure contract and we are talking about it. Besides all of us do it on our Dynasty mode on the Xbox or Playstation
 
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My daughter is a classmate and a friend of Dereks at BA. Derek made an announcement on Tuesday that he was commiting to the Vols at a school assembly then was told later by the coaches that he waited too long to commit and UT was no longer offering him a scholarship. Derek was obviously very disapointed but he is a great kid and extremely bright and I am sure he will do great at Vandy. As others have said there is a dirty side of recruiting that we don't want to know about. It's just tougher to deal with when its a local kid that your family knows.
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I feel for the Kid
 
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Tetonvol said:
My daughter is a classmate and a friend of Dereks at BA. Derek made an announcement on Tuesday that he was commiting to the Vols at a school assembly then was told later by the coaches that he waited too long to commit and UT was no longer offering him a scholarship. Derek was obviously very disapointed but he is a great kid and extremely bright and I am sure he will do great at Vandy. As others have said there is a dirty side of recruiting that we don't want to know about. It's just tougher to deal with when its a local kid that your family knows.
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I will not say the same things again as I have made my opinions clear but, To tell the young man he waited too long IMO is obviously not the situation. IF he had decided to commit they would have still cut him lose if they got a higher rated kid interested.
 
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Feel bad he is not a Vol. But he is still inside the state lines. Vandy has had some pretty good players from Tennessee. Best ones I can remember off the top of my head is Cason Jackson (Central), and Jeff Jennings (Jeff County). Both did pretty well for themselves at Vandy. Good Luck to you Derek.
 
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I feel bad for the kid since he wants to be a Vol but he is getting a college education at a great university.
 
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#341
What happened with this guy? I thought the staff was all over this kid.
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VolFanInIndiana said:
I will not say the same things again as I have made my opinions clear but, To tell the young man he waited too long IMO is obviously not the situation. IF he had decided to commit they would have still cut him lose if they got a higher rated kid interested.
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"Obviously not the situation?" Now you are calling the kid a liar too?

So the sketchy details we have go something like this:
Vols made what was apparently a commitable offer.

The kid would not commit. He wanted to look around.

The Vols continued to recruit other guys and apparently found someone who they liked better or who was willing to give them a commit.

King for whatever reason decides he needs to go ahead and commit. Maybe he was worried that his window of opportunity was closing?

Either he only told some friends or as others have said he announced it at an assembly... he apparently told someone he had committed.

When he actually tried to tell the staff (which should have been the first thing, not the last thing), he was told he waited too long.


And you are in such a hurry to blame the staff that you can't accept that this is the nature of recruiting... right?
 
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VolFanInIndiana said:
I will not say the same things again as I have made my opinions clear but, To tell the young man he waited too long IMO is obviously not the situation. IF he had decided to commit they would have still cut him lose if they got a higher rated kid interested.
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Them damn Vols, they offering and turning down everybody. Hide ya kids! :eek:lol:
 
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Tetonvol said:
My daughter is a classmate and a friend of Dereks at BA. Derek made an announcement on Tuesday that he was commiting to the Vols at a school assembly then was told later by the coaches that he waited too long to commit and UT was no longer offering him a scholarship. Derek was obviously very disapointed but he is a great kid and extremely bright and I am sure he will do great at Vandy. As others have said there is a dirty side of recruiting that we don't want to know about. It's just tougher to deal with when its a local kid that your family knows.
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Hate that for him really. I'm sure he'll do just fine at Vandy tho!!
 
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Good for him. Getting a Vandy education and still gets to play SEC football. Good pickup for Vandy.
 
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"Obviously not the situation?" Now you are calling the kid a liar too?

So the sketchy details we have go something like this:
Vols made what was apparently a commitable offer.

The kid would not commit. He wanted to look around.

The Vols continued to recruit other guys and apparently found someone who they liked better or who was willing to give them a commit.

King for whatever reason decides he needs to go ahead and commit. Maybe he was worried that his window of opportunity was closing?

Either he only told some friends or as others have said he announced it at an assembly... he apparently told someone he had committed.

When he actually tried to tell the staff (which should have been the first thing, not the last thing), he was told he waited too long.


And you are in such a hurry to blame the staff that you can't accept that this is the nature of recruiting... right?
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I can understand the Kid wanting to make sure he made the right decision and weight his options before he commits,but he or anyone else shouldn't get upset for UT moving on thats what negotiation is, He (King) should have or an adult found out how long the offer stood or what was the deadline for him to get back with UT. I personally Hate that could looked like a total dufus.
 
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sjt18 said:
"Obviously not the situation?" Now you are calling the kid a liar too?

So the sketchy details we have go something like this:
Vols made what was apparently a commitable offer.

The kid would not commit. He wanted to look around.

The Vols continued to recruit other guys and apparently found someone who they liked better or who was willing to give them a commit.

King for whatever reason decides he needs to go ahead and commit. Maybe he was worried that his window of opportunity was closing?

Either he only told some friends or as others have said he announced it at an assembly... he apparently told someone he had committed.

When he actually tried to tell the staff (which should have been the first thing, not the last thing), he was told he waited too long.


And you are in such a hurry to blame the staff that you can't accept that this is the nature of recruiting... right?
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No, In no way did I call the kid a liar. Maybe you need to read my post again. What it says is I think the STAFF telling the kid he waited too long is just not being honest. Yes, I said the STAFF is not being honest. The kid could have said he was a Vol from the day they offered and as we have seen of late with several recruits...if they could get a higher rated kid..his spot would be GONE reguardless if he commited or not. Yes, I know..I know...It's just the way it is. I wonder if we are looking to recruit over Arnett? Maybe we can land Farmer and tell DA to head to USC. LOL I just want to see the spin on here when the staff cuts a couple guys loose the night before signing day.
 
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Vol Catdaddy said:
I can understand the Kid wanting to make sure he made the right decision and weight his options before he commits,but he or anyone else shouldn't get upset for UT moving on thats what negotiation is, He (King) should have or an adult found out how long the offer stood or what was the deadline for him to get back with UT. I personally Hate that could looked like a total dufus.
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Let's not even try to spin this as it's anything to do with time frame. This is the 3rd guy just recently to loose his place. The time frame obviously had nothing to do with the other 2 that were cut loose. They were already Vols. (In their mind and per scout and rivals anyway).
 
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VolFanInIndiana, I understand your opinion but if we followed you advice we would be in a terrible position, even worse than our current predicament
 
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