'12 GA LB Khalid Henderson

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The Coaches wouldnt take a commit from a guy this early who they believe would be a 4 year back up. They can find those type of guys 1 month before signing day.
 
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A lot of people had the number at 3 LBs for this class. Hubbs said the coaching staff wants 3-4 more putting it at 4 or 5 for this class. Hopefully, we can land 3-4 of the following (Neal, Allen, Lewis, Dawson, Peters).
 
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Henderson had 77 tackles (41 solo) and 2.5 sacks in 10 games last year. He also rushed 13 times for 146 yards and caught 3 passes for 77 yards.

Henderson's top track & field marks this spring suggest that his athleticism is OK but nothing special, IMO.
 
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What I find depressing is all the Recruiting analysis talent and coaching ability going to waste in the interwebs of Volnation.
 
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I4Jay said:
The Coaches wouldnt take a commit from a guy this early who they believe would be a 4 year back up. They can find those type of guys 1 month before signing day.
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Stop with your common sense Jay. Its not needed here and is not welcome
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
40 times are meaningless because it depends on the track you run them on and whether it is electronically timed or hand timed... When I coached high school football I had a number of kids that would go to one camp and run a 4.5 and then attend another a week later and run over a 5.0... Instincts do matter, dont get me wrong on that, but 40 times are useless because they are never accurate.
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I agree, 40 times alone are pretty useless. That is why most evaluations are made on 40s, 20 yard shuttle (5-10-5) and the L-drill. The combination of these 3 drills is usually a good indicator of a prospects true speed.
 
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I4Jay said:
The Coaches wouldnt take a commit from a guy this early who they believe would be a 4 year back up. They can find those type of guys 1 month before signing day.
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You would think that, but they also took Andrew Power around this time last year and Juda Parker not much later in the year.
 
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tripper said:
I agree, 40 times alone are pretty useless. That is why most evaluations are made on 40s, 20 yard shuttle (5-10-5) and the L-drill. The combination of these 3 drills will usually a good indicator of a prospects true speed.
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Agreed, and Henderson's numbers are good in all three.
 
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CountVolcula said:
What I find depressing is all the Recruiting analysis talent and coaching ability going to waste in the interwebs of Volnation.
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Welcome to the internet where everyone is an expert at everything.

In general, I think it's a good thing. You can never go wrong with more information as long as it's coupled with logic.
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TheMayja said:
Using a clip of 10-15 plays to base an opinion on a kid is funny. Believe it or not. I know there's room for opinions on a messageboard, not saying there isn't. Just always find it humorous when people claim a kid is great or a kid can't play based on a 2:00 clip. Your opinion is whatever you draw from the kid's clip, and my opinion is it's funny.

I know it's obvious, but the evaluation process is much much deeper than that.
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Offer lists are by far the most important way to evaluate a prospect IMO. A good offer list goes much further than anything else does. Knowing that coaches across the board, many of them already proven winners think enough of you to offer a scholarship goes a long way with me. A lot further than a Rivals or Scout rating and a lot further than some clips. I definitely think you can tell some things by looking at some clips but nothing outweighs what schools have offered a kid.

The bottom line is Tennessee is not going to get back into the top 4-5 in the SEC unless they start landing kids, especially at the critical need postions like Dline and LB that the Auburn's, Florida's, Alabama's, and LSU's of the world are after as well.
 
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Here's my expert take: Nobody has a clue whether this kid can play at high SEC level or not at this point in time.
 
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Offer lists can be deceptive, too. All the un/commitable offers muddy things. And it's still really early in the recruiting cycle, so a lot of kids that are under-recruited for whatever reason haven't made the camp circuit yet.
 
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TheMayja said:
Using a clip of 10-15 plays to base an opinion on a kid is funny. Believe it or not. I know there's room for opinions on a messageboard, not saying there isn't. Just always find it humorous when people claim a kid is great or a kid can't play based on a 2:00 clip. Your opinion is whatever you draw from the kid's clip, and my opinion is it's funny.

I know it's obvious, but the evaluation process is much much deeper than that.
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There's lots of "funny" ways to evaluate kids. Coach Cuttcliff evaluates kids by watching their feet almost exclusively. Of course its an opionion of a single person but to that person, it means more than that. That's what this is all about. We come, talk, share, form our own opinions, and enjoy this pastime.
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Excited to welcome a new vol to the ranks. My only concern with his tackling is actually in his footwork. His feet seem to either stop or he seems to go to the ground on a significant number of tackles in the video. In the SEC, if that doesn't get fixed then he is going to be an open invitation to get run over. That's just simple physics. The good news is that any player can improve his tackling technique but those immutable characteristics, ie speed, size, instincts, are definitely there and that makes me pumped to see this guy in orange.
 
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For what it's worth, I liked what I saw in his tape. Of course, being my opinion, it means more to me than most others.
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volmaniac18 said:
Excited to welcome a new vol to the ranks. My only concern with his tackling is actually in his footwork. His feet seem to either stop or he seems to go to the ground on a significant number of tackles in the video. In the SEC, if that doesn't get fixed then he is going to be an open invitation to get run over. That's just simple physics. The good news is that any player can improve his tackling technique but those immutable characteristics, ie speed, size, instincts, are definitely there and that makes me pumped to see this guy in orange.
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I agree with all of this. The coaches will fix that. He seems fairly strong so I'm sure he uses his upper body strength rather than his strength in his hips to drive through a ballcarrier sometimes.
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Montrell Hardy said:
Offer lists are by far the most important way to evaluate a prospect IMO. A good offer list goes much further than anything else does. Knowing that coaches across the board, many of them already proven winners think enough of you to offer a scholarship goes a long way with me. A lot further than a Rivals or Scout rating and a lot further than some clips. I definitely think you can tell some things by looking at some clips but nothing outweighs what schools have offered a kid.

The bottom line is Tennessee is not going to get back into the top 4-5 in the SEC unless they start landing kids, especially at the critical need postions like Dline and LB that the Auburn's, Florida's, Alabama's, and LSU's of the world are after as well.
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I agree with this. You have to compete with the big boys to get the big boys. But there are also plenty of kids that fly under the radar. I firmly believe that if you can evaluate a kid and trust your ability to see what type of player he can be molded into in your system, then you don't have to have the #1 class every year to compete.

Saulsberry last year always comes to mind. No real offers to speak of but does have some decent athleticism -- he comes on campus and blows our staff away with his quick feet and quick hands. They realized that that is a trait that can be built upon and molded but is hard to see when watching a film. Was a big reason why he flew under the radar, yet our stuff loved him.
 
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TheMayja said:
Using a clip of 10-15 plays to base an opinion on a kid is funny. Believe it or not. I know there's room for opinions on a messageboard, not saying there isn't. Just always find it humorous when people claim a kid is great or a kid can't play based on a 2:00 clip. Your opinion is whatever you draw from the kid's clip, and my opinion is it's funny.

I know it's obvious, but the evaluation process is much much deeper than that.
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What do you suggest people here base their opinion on apart from the information that is available?

I don't think anyone will argue that a kid's fate can be determined by a two minute video, but I don't think there's anything wrong with poster here trying to evaluate a prospect based on the information that's available. I enjoy the different perspectives. What's your take on the kid?
 
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Freak said:
What do you suggest people here base their opinion on apart from the information that is available?

I don't think anyone will argue that a kid's fate can be determined by a two minute video, but I don't think there's anything wrong with poster here trying to evaluate a prospect based on the information that's available. I enjoy the different perspectives. What's your take on the kid?
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He looks like he should look. Good size and speed. But I certainly don't have enough information to determine what type of player he is. As reported by VA in the camp thread, he looked really good at camp and the coaches were taking notice. He checked out for them both physically and mentally, so that's all I have to go on.

I just try not to take much from a video. I mean, look at Cam Clear for example. You evaluate him based on his highlights and he's probably playing at UTC right now. He wasn't impressive at all -- but was very impressive at camps, both physically and mentally.
 
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Good to add some more size to our linebacker unit. He could easily add 20-30 pounds to his frame and not lose a step.
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The fact that Dooley ask him about camps this summer tells me Dooley knows what he's seen and other coaches will see the same and the offers will come.
 
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