'12 GA RB Imani Cross (Nebraska Commit)

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UTvol1fn said:
all I have to say is welcome to the real world....it's only going to get harder
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Agreed but for some to get on here and act like our staff is somehow above the "dirty" part of the business is being blind to the facts of its process.
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BruinVol said:
Yes its part of the business but make no mistake its the dirty part of it by correcting a mistake you made by accepting his commitment in the first place. I am glad the staff did it because in order for them to compete they must do what the competition does. So yes everybody does it but in no way is it anything more than cleaning up the mess you created by making an deal you shouldn't have.
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getting a better player is never a mistake
 
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BruinVol said:
Making the deal with cross was the mistake from the beginning. We corrected that by breaking the deal.
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there is no "deal" if both parties can break it without consequence. Of course Dooley has to deal with the people taking yet another shot at him for doing exactly what they are screaming for- making UT a better football team.
 
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utvolpj said:
there is no "deal" if both parties can break it without consequence. Of course Dooley has to deal with the people taking yet another shot at him for doing exactly what they are screaming for- making UT a better football team.
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I have stated that I am glad the staff did this. My shot is that some of you guys claim this isn't a dirty part of the business when that is exactly what it is. Necessary but dirty!
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This thread makes it easy to tell who the middle school/high school/college posters are who have never held a full time job. You'll lose your idealistic notions of employer loyalty and employee loyalty real quick once you get out into the real world.

Coaching staff did what they had to do and what any other staff would've done. I trust they handled it in the best way possible.
 
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sammyjoey said:
This thread makes it easy to tell who the middle school/high school/college posters are who have never held a full time job. You'll lose your idealistic notions of employer loyalty and employee loyalty real quick once you get out into the real world.

Coaching staff did what they had to do and what any other staff would've done. I trust they handled it in the best way possible.
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Don't be so sure of that. There might be somebody in this thread that understands exactly what a coach has to do sitting in a living room to gain the trust of the family to get a commitment because they have lived it.
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Rivals is so behind. Still have him listed.

Anyways, it's sad. I hate that he was our first recruit for the class, and we let him go.

BUT...you also have to think, most teams have 2, MAYBE 3 running backs that play a year. Our oldest running back now is about to be a junior (Neal), and I wouldn't doubt to see him play more WR then RB.

Then, we have Lane (Sophomore), Tom Smith (Sophomore), Devrin Young (Sophomore), Jaron Toney (Sophomore), Quenshon Watson (Fresh), Alden Hill (Freshmen)

The playing field is WIDE OPEN. But the thing is, only 2-3 of those will actually get carries. If you don't think someone is a guy who can help you immediately, and be one of those 2-3 backs, then why take him? Chances are much better that a EE like Hill, or a 4* like Pender or Smith can help you better. The staff must have saw something they didn't like.

Plus....I believe we get another Marlin Lane type surprise. And it's either gonna be the #6 or #4 RB in the country. I'm cool with that.
 
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I work in the world of recruiting and it doesn't matter whether it's players, accountants, doctors etc...if a better deal comes along you take it! I'm sorry for Cross but for every Cross there's a Chris Simms. People like to be in control of the situation and until that name is put on a LOI or contract, nothing is solid. I have seen it all in this business and it usually boils down to, does the party or person who is backing out on their end have the balls to let the other person know ahead of time? If they do, then both parties can move forward and seek a better option. If not, someone's loses out on money, a scholarship, etc etc...Good luck Kid, you still have 2 months to find a school
 
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What gets lost in this is that Cross wasn't exactly the picture of solid throughout his commitment. There was a fairly lengthy period when we thought HE was going to back out of his commitment and go to UVA, so it goes both ways, and we could have very easily been lamenting that Cross didn't "keep his word to us." It's just the name of the game and until there is a signed LOI, you really have nothing.
I have a bad feeling that we'll have 1 or 2 de-commit from us this year.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
As I said in my post, recruiting is a cut-throat business & I understand that.

I just think its f'd up that they evaluated him at Jr camp back in Feb & took his commitment, went & watched him at his HS spring practice, brought him in for the summer camp & worked him out, when he started wavering Dooley & Joseph called him to firm his commitment up, the staff allowed him to come up for 3-4 games on his own dime, & then they decide they don't want him.
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Well now I'm pissed. I always come up to Knoxville on my own dime on GAMEDAY!
 
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joshc said:
What gets lost in this is that Cross wasn't exactly the picture of solid throughout his commitment. There was a fairly lengthy period when we thought HE was going to back out of his commitment and go to UVA, so it goes both ways, and we could have very easily been lamenting that Cross didn't "keep his word to us." It's just the name of the game and until there is a signed LOI, you really have nothing.
I have a bad feeling that we'll have 1 or 2 de-commit from us this year.
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Not I like the idea about losing a commitment or 2 but I remember Cross' status as being as you describe it, but of course my only source of information is Volnations, so who knows?
 
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I have faith that the staff knows what they're doing in this situation. Yes it looks bad that they told him to look around but I wouldn't think they would do that unless they knew they could get a better player in his spot. Especially if Cross was looking around himself. We are still in it for quite a few players that are high on our board with very few spots available. Every scholly is crucial when we're still waiting to hear from players like Patterson, Howard, Autry, Sentimore, McCullers, Davis, Elston, Bivens,possibly Pender, and so on. I got a good feeling volnation will be glad this happened in the long run.
 
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All it is, is slow playing him. Nothing wrong with it at all. Happens every year, every program. This is what you do to get better. They do it like this, so it's not coming right out, and saying we don't want you anymore. Atleast they are giving him plenty of time to find a new home.


hixsonvol said:
It appears from the article to me that Imani had to approach CTJ about it.

I know kids are told all of the time to look around and that's normal, but the staff shouldn't be chicken $h.t about it. Be straight up and go to the kid instead of making the kid come to you.

I don't mind coaches telling kids to move on, but do it with class.
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abb4 said:
You're kidding right? As much of your life as you spend obsessing over recruiting information and you think it's F'ed up?!? This kid has been "keeping his options open" and looking around on and off since committing, but the staff isn't allowed to do the same? Give me a break.
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Very well said.
 
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JMoore i love your info and the staff has to get better about these types of situations, but being a great citizen in recruiting has got us to losing seasons, if we can get someone better i say do it even though it may be disrespectful.
 
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