120k a year isn’t enough

#527
#527
Rasputin_Vol said:
No one "wants" to.

Use your imagination for a minute. Can you really not think of any jobs where you would have to put in 80+ hours? I don’t mean people working on an assembly line making widgets necessarily.
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There are seasonal and 2 week on/off gigs (like roughnecks) that work 80 each on week.
 
#529
#529
Rasputin_Vol said:
I said nothing about the economics or cost effectiveness of anything. I'm simply saying that some things are going to take time no matter how many people or processes you try to come up with.
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You forgot about how the important expenditure of both time and effort factor in.
 
#530
#530
Rasputin_Vol said:
No one "wants" to.

Use your imagination for a minute. Can you really not think of any jobs where you would have to put in 80+ hours? I don’t mean people working on an assembly line making widgets necessarily.
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I have worked in a trauma center for over a decade putting in some very long shifts. Never had to exceed 80. Nothing wrong with working that much much but it isn’t for me.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
I have worked in a trauma center for over a decade putting in some very long shifts. Never had to exceed 80. Nothing wrong with working that much much but it isn’t for me.
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Nothing personal but I’d prefer you not work on me after you’ve put in 80 hours already that week. Having done it many times myself I know you wouldn’t be at your sharpest.
 
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#536
allvol123 said:
Many years ago when I was an ops manager at a TL carrier, I gave a driver a load from middle TN to CA. He picked the trailer up late Sunday and was in CA Tuesday morning.

I never gave that SOB another load to CA.
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What day were you expecting arrival of the load?
 
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allvol123 said:
Many years ago when I was an ops manager at a TL carrier, I gave a driver a load from middle TN to CA. He picked the trailer up late Sunday and was in CA Tuesday morning.

I never gave that SOB another load to CA.
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PEPPERJAX said:
I have worked in a trauma center for over a decade putting in some very long shifts. Never had to exceed 80. Nothing wrong with working that much much but it isn’t for me.
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It isn't for a lot of people. That doesn't negate the fact that there are jobs out here that DO call for 80+ hours from time to time. Not saying every week... or even 4-5 times a year. But it does happen quite often.
 
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#543
PEPPERJAX said:
Who the fk wants to work 80 or 90 hours in a week?
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It would depend on the payoff wouldn't it?
For an hourly employee an 80 hour week gets about an extra week and a half's pay. 90 hours gets a little over an extra two week's pay. That goes a long way toward a house, college fund, new Mustang, or what have you.
For a salaried employee or business owner the long hours may be needed to complete a vital project for example. Putting in the time and effort or not can be the difference between prosperity and career stagnation, unemployment, or bankruptcy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It isn't for a lot of people. That doesn't negate the fact that there are jobs out here that DO call for 80+ hours from time to time. Not saying every week... or even 4-5 times a year. But it does happen quite often.
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Do you work 80 hours a week?
 
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#547
NorthDallas40 said:
Sometimes it’s part of it. More often than not it’s done by some young dumb kid, unskilled labor or professional, that doesn’t know any damn better 🤷‍♂️
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or people with bosses who don't actually understand the tasks they give out. It is way to common of a management style by the boomers where if young people are struggling with their current tasks you just give them more work. without helping on their original tasks.

Its rampant in my industry where the older group make themselves so busy they pass tasks on to younger members of the team, and can't support them at all. And it ends up with a situation of you being so busy, with so many phone calls, meetings, you literally can't do the actual work. The quiet promotion bs is just as rampant as the quiet quitting part from millennials.
 
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#548
LouderVol said:
or people with bosses who don't actually understand the tasks they give out. It is way to common of a management style by the boomers where if young people are struggling with their current tasks you just give them more work. without helping on their original tasks.

Its rampant in my industry where the older group make themselves so busy they pass tasks on to younger members of the team, and can't support them at all. And it ends up with a situation of you being so busy, with so many phone calls, meetings, you literally can't do the actual work. The quiet promotion bs is just as rampant as the quiet quitting part from millennials.
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It’s rampant in my industry also and it extends beyond just boomers. A good manager is becoming an endangered species I think. When they get to feeling helpless they throw bodies at the situation. Not necessarily more bodies many times just much more usage of the same bodies they have. as right now bodies are in lower supply.
 
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