13' GA S Vonn Bell (Ohio State signee)

[TennesseeStudVOL]

i cant believe bells stock plumeted like it did...dude aint even in rivals top 100 anymore....does anyone know whats going onl?...heck 2 weeks ago and he was a top 20 player on rivals...i was just curious why he went from 5 stars to barely 4

 

[nicksjuzunk]

How is Vonn Bell?

He's doing good. He had a nice burger from five guys

 

[flowd82]

i cant believe bells stock plumeted like it did...dude aint even in rivals top 100 anymore....does anyone know whats going onl?...heck 2 weeks ago and he was a top 20 player on rivals...i was just curious why he went from 5 stars to barely 4

I'm pretty sure Vonn Bell was never a RivalsTop100 or 5* prospect on Rivals.com. I could be wrong though.

Bell is/was rated much higher on Scout.com and 247 so that may be what you are thinking of.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

i cant believe bells stock plumeted like it did...dude aint even in rivals top 100 anymore....does anyone know whats going onl?...heck 2 weeks ago and he was a top 20 player on rivals...i was just curious why he went from 5 stars to barely 4

Found out he is a secret Vol lock?

 

[jave36]

I'm pretty sure Vonn Bell was never a RivalsTop100 or 5* prospect on Rivals.com. I could be wrong though.

Bell is/was rated much higher on Scout.com and 247 so that may be what you are thinking of.

You're correct, he was never in the top 250. I think they had him initially ranked as the 20th best safety, or something like that. Rivals was way behind on him.

 

[TennesseeStudVOL]

Ok thanks guys....maybe im just thinkin of somethin else but I coulda swore at one point that rivals had mackensie alexander rated in mid to high 20s and von bell was next highest rated at like 18....like I said its been a while back but maybe im thinkin of a different site.....I just know for a fact that bell was definately rated higher than ramsey....j ramsey and jrm have really soared up the boards in last couple weeks

 

[UT_King]

Likely to be the top rated player in the class. unless Carl Lawson flips.

247 - 5 star, #2 S, #19 overall
Scout - 5 star, #3 S, # 32 overall
ESPN - 4 star, #5 S, #63 overall
Rivals - 4 star, #13 S, #155 overall

VB is a beast, hope to see him commit to Big Orange Country soon.
Go Vols!

 

[volfrk86]

Likely to be the top rated player in the class. unless Carl Lawson flips.

247 - 5 star, #2 S, #19 overall
Scout - 5 star, #3 S, # 32 overall
ESPN - 4 star, #5 S, #63 overall
Rivals - 4 star, #13 S, #155 overall

VB is a beast, hope to see him commit to Big Orange Country soon.
Go Vols!

Him and Jason Hatcher would be vols already if Dooley wasn't on the hot seat.

 

[jasonvol18]

Him and Jason Hatcher would be vols already if Dooley wasn't on the hot seat.

Hopefully a good start settles that.

 

[jave36]

Him and Jason Hatcher would be vols already if Dooley wasn't on the hot seat.

I agree, from everything I've read.

I hope Hart is liberal with the contract extension if Dooley shows up in the first 5 games. I think most of our recruiting woes will go away with a good season and a good contract extension. More than anything, we REALLY need to beat Florida. This is the best matchup with them that we've had in a long time.

 

[chavisut]

I agree, from everything I've read.

I hope Hart is liberal with the contract extension if Dooley shows up in the first 5 games.

Define showing up.

 

[jave36]

Define showing up.

Winning, haha.

Seriously though, if we beat Florida AND Georgia AND NC State, I'd like to see him get the extension.

 

[Bassmanbruno]

I agree, from everything I've read.

I hope Hart is liberal with the contract extension if Dooley shows up in the first 5 games. I think most of our recruiting woes will go away with a good season and a good contract extension. More than anything, we REALLY need to beat Florida. This is the best matchup with them that we've had in a long time.

Contract extension - lol.

 

[tvols75]

Contract extension - lol.

Would look good to recruits and not necessarily affect the buyout. Win-win to me.

 

[615 Vol]

Would look good to recruits and not necessarily affect the buyout. Win-win to me.

Sounds like Mike Hamilton's way of doing business.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Sounds like Mike Hamilton's way of doing business.

Not really.

You can extend the contract without giving him a raise.

 

[volroadwarrior]

Not really.

You can extend the contract without giving him a raise.

That would seem like a luke warm endorsement to some. Not that it is, but that is how some would see it.

 

[Kingston Vol]

That would seem like a luke warm endorsement to some. Not that it is, but that is how some would see it.

It would be purely for recruiting purposes. If Recruit X has concerns about Dooley's job stability, he could say, "I just got an extension. I'll be here for a while."

 

[jave36]

It would be purely for recruiting purposes. If Recruit X has concerns about Dooley's job stability, he could say, "I just got an extension. I'll be here for a while."

Not as much as getting a raise and increasing the buyout. Other coaches could still use that negatively against us if the buyout didn't change.

 

[VolStudent247]

I doubt any coach would tell a recruit "well yeah he got an extension but they didn't give him a raise, so he's probably gone soon". These coaches are talking to high schoolers, not long term job security analysts.

 

[tvols75]

I doubt any coach would tell a recruit "well yeah he got an extension but they didn't give him a raise, so he's probably gone soon". These coaches are talking to high schoolers, not long term job security analysts.

Exactly.

Opposing coach after good start: Hey the AD gave him a contract extension in name only, but he is still going to be fired.

Most High-School Athletes: Ummmmmmm..... ok?

 

[jave36]

Exactly.

Opposing coach after good start: Hey the AD gave him a contract extension in name only, but he is still going to be fired.

Most High-School Athletes: Ummmmmmm..... ok?

It's not rocket science....an extension is meaningless without increasing the buyout. Very few of any coaches just leave after their contracts expire, they're either fired or retire or take another position. Opposing coaches are smart enough to convey that idea if they decide to negatively recruit.

 

[VolStudent247]

It's not rocket science....an extension is meaningless without increasing the buyout. Very few of any coaches just leave after their contracts expire, they're either fired or retire or take another position. Opposing coaches are smart enough to convey that idea if they decide to negatively recruit.

Look at it from the perspective of a high schooler. His questions for the coach are: how many games have you won? Can you get me to the league? What's the dorm/food/practice facilities like?

Back to vonn bell

 

[tvols75]

It's not rocket science....an extension is meaningless without increasing the buyout. Very few of any coaches just leave after their contracts expire, they're either fired or retire or take another position. Opposing coaches are smart enough to convey that idea if they decide to negatively recruit.

So do you think each recruit is going to take advantage of the freedom of information act and search for the increase in the buyout? Heck, it may not even be released until after recruiting season is completed.

 

[LynxVol]

It's not rocket science....an extension is meaningless without increasing the buyout. Very few of any coaches just leave after their contracts expire, they're either fired or retire or take another position. Opposing coaches are smart enough to convey that idea if they decide to negatively recruit.

How did we even get on this topic? Who said, if Dooley gets an extension, Dooley's salary wouldn't increase along with the buyout?

At any rate, it's rare that someone in Dooley's position receives an extension without some sort of pay raise.