'13 VA RB Derrick Green (Michigan commit)

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LebanonVolunteer said:
All I am going to say is you should remove the T from under your name. Just because you live in the state, we don't want you funking up our T or colors. Stick with the blue. :hi:
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dude, you've got to be the most classless person i have came across on any board. of all the post's i have read with your name attached i haven't seen one useful comment. I'm sure if the moderators see fit they will ban me but that won't make you classy.......JMHO! :hi:
 
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true blue in tn said:
dude, you've got to be the most classless person i have came across on any board. of all the post's i have read with your name attached i haven't seen one useful comment. I'm sure if the moderators see fit they will ban me but that won't make you classy.......JMHO! :hi:
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This thread is making us attack each other...it must be stopped before it's too late!
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lets close this thread let it die, he picked michigan. we lost out on henry who was our first choice and now green, let it die, we will get a rb, it is not the end of the world. i wish the mods would close it, or these dummies would just quit posting i am tired of seeing it at the top or recruiting board, there is no news here let it die people this is my last post on this thread and hopes everyone else agrees.

let it die

GO VOLS , WE WILL GET OUR RB!
 
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true blue in tn said:
i have one word for you. "loophole" their little rule didn't count early enrollees. also they can have as many as they want total as long as they are down to 85 by fall camp. just ask Georgia who one year signed 30-35 kids.
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That was closed a couple years back. Now there is a hard limit of 25 per class in the SEC including EEs unless you signed under 25 the year before. You can only backcount one EE for every spot under 25 you were from the previous year (also including EEs). You only average out to 25 a class now under the new rules.

Also, it makes no sense for you to argue that that is why the SEC is better. Every other major conference besides the Big 10 oversigns and has one year scholarships, but for some reason we're the only ones who benefit from it?
 
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jjay2518 said:
That was closed a couple years back. Now there is a hard limit of 25 per class in the SEC including EEs unless you signed under 25 the year before. You can only backcount one EE for every spot under 25 you were from the previous year (also including EEs). You only average out to 25 a class now under the new rules.

Also, it makes no sense for you to argue that that is why the SEC is better. Every other major conference besides the Big 10 oversigns and has one year scholarships, but for some reason we're the only ones who benefit from it?
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you are spot on with what you say but due to 1 year scholarships they can thin out last years class if they need new additions. there is no argument with me about the sec being the best football conference in the country i was just comparing them with the big ten. you will never see me dogging on the sec, just keeping the facts straight. GO VOLS!
 
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true blue in tn said:
you are spot on with what you say but due to 1 year scholarships they can thin out last years class if they need new additions. there is no argument with me about the sec being the best football conference in the country i was just comparing them with the big ten. you will never see me dogging on the sec, just keeping the facts straight. GO VOLS!
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Welcome to Tennessee. Don't let the rednecks on here ruin it for you.
 
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SouthernWolverine said:
Michigan's sports facilities are rated top in the country
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SouthernWolverine said:
I didnt mean Michigan has the best facilities but it does rate in the top 25,
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Interesting...at least you are back tracking and realize that they are not the best. Michigan Stadium looked like crap on the exterior, just like Neyland, until they both renovated the outside with brick. The renovation to the locker room at Michigan made a huge difference also because it was severely outdated before then.

side note: is that golf course for the university or just happens to be near campus?
 
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jjay2518 said:
That was closed a couple years back. Now there is a hard limit of 25 per class in the SEC including EEs unless you signed under 25 the year before. You can only backcount one EE for every spot under 25 you were from the previous year (also including EEs). You only average out to 25 a class now under the new rules.

Also, it makes no sense for you to argue that that is why the SEC is better. Every other major conference besides the Big 10 oversigns and has one year scholarships, but for some reason we're the only ones who benefit from it?
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i've never fully bought this whole oversigning thing and it's benefits. sure if you get better players to sign later you could find ways to get rid of the lesser talent but to say as a whole it made the SEC into what it's become is ridiculous, just ask ole miss how oversigning is working out for them. also if there was such a great advantage to oversigning, there wouldn't have been 2 teams in the sec without a single conference win last year, things would be more even. the flip side of that is saban and miles were tool bags about the way they did the oversigning, i think that's what stirred up the big fuss about it
 
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bigeasy said:
Interesting...at least you are back tracking and realize that they are not the best. Michigan Stadium looked like crap on the exterior, just like Neyland, until they both renovated the outside with brick. The renovation to the locker room at Michigan made a huge difference also because it was severely outdated before then.

side note: is that golf course for the university or just happens to be near campus?
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it's both. u of m plays on it but it is public too. they also use it for parking on game day.
 
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true blue in tn said:
you are spot on with what you say but due to 1 year scholarships they can thin out last years class if they need new additions. there is no argument with me about the sec being the best football conference in the country i was just comparing them with the big ten. you will never see me dogging on the sec, just keeping the facts straight. GO VOLS!
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I personally don't have an issue with one year scholarships as long as the coaches aren't abusing them (which there is nothing to stop them from doing as it is now). Students lose academic scholarships if they don't meet a set GPA. If a player isn't putting what he should into a program, it doesn't bother me that he isn't allowed to float through for 4 years.

However, I have issue with coaches who cut players who are putting in all the work necessary but haven't panned out. That essentially equals coaches being able to eliminate their recruiting misses at the player's. But then again, on academic scholarships, if a kid gets good grades in high school, gets an academic scholarship, but then can't make the grades in college regardless of how much work he puts in, he'll still lose the scholarship.

I get that it's a competitive advantage compared to another conference not having it. I'm just not convinced that it's a bad thing to implement.
 
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Fleetwood1104 said:
i've never fully bought this whole oversigning thing and it's benefits. sure if you get better players to sign later you could find ways to get rid of the lesser talent but to say as a whole it made the SEC into what it's become is ridiculous, just ask ole miss how oversigning is working out for them. also if there was such a great advantage to oversigning, there wouldn't have been 2 teams in the sec without a single conference win last year, things would be more even. the flip side of that is saban and miles were tool bags about the way they did the oversigning, i think that's what stirred up the big fuss about it
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Haha good point. Houston Nutt at Ole Miss was essentially the reason that loophole was closed in the SEC after he signed something like 37 players one year. It still didn't help him keep his job.

And yes, Saban and Miles definitely find ways of getting under the 85 limit every year. I will say one thing for Saban though. I have seen interviews with his players where they say he tells them during their recruitment that their scholarships are one year agreements and they will have to fight for them every year. If that's true and the kids and their families know what they're getting themselves into, then I have less of a problem with it.
 
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jjay2518 said:
Haha good point. Houston Nutt at Ole Miss was essentially the reason that loophole was closed in the SEC after he signed something like 37 players one year. It still didn't help him keep his job.

And yes, Saban and Miles definitely find ways of getting under the 85 limit every year. I will say one thing for Saban though. I have seen interviews with his players where they say he tells them during their recruitment that their scholarships are one year agreements and they will have to fight for them every year. If that's true and the kids and their families know what they're getting themselves into, then I have less of a problem with it.
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and those are the stories you don't hear about. you hear about the ones that are told the day the move into their dorm that there is no longer a spot for them or how nick saban has had more players that weren't working out as well as others all of the sudden have medical issues that open up their roster spot
 
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jjay2518 said:
Haha good point. Houston Nutt at Ole Miss was essentially the reason that loophole was closed in the SEC after he signed something like 37 players one year. It still didn't help him keep his job.

And yes, Saban and Miles definitely find ways of getting under the 85 limit every year. I will say one thing for Saban though. I have seen interviews with his players where they say he tells them during their recruitment that their scholarships are one year agreements and they will have to fight for them every year. If that's true and the kids and their families know what they're getting themselves into, then I have less of a problem with it.
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my understanding is that miles and sabon are the worst. with doing that they can also recruit borderline academic players knowing they can over sign and chances are some are not going to make it essentially making there recruiting pool bigger
 
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true blue in tn said:
my understanding is that miles and sabon are the worst. with doing that they can also recruit borderline academic players knowing they can over sign and chances are some are not going to make it essentially making there recruiting pool bigger
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I don't see the problem with it. CFB is a business and everyone knows it. It's up to the prospect/his parents to perform adequate research on the coach/school. To put it another way, it's squarely on me if I purchase a used car without checking its history and it breaks down. The Sabans and Miles of the world are charged to win a NC every year,and they find a way, within the confines of the system to do it.
 
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SouthernWolverine said:
I am currently working on UT campus, go down Neyland dr. look up at the back of the stadium and tell me what you see.
Go down broadway past Western and give us a report of what is there
Should we talk about south knoxville?
I didnt mean Michigan has the best facilities but it does rate in the top 25, Tennessee is finally spending money on its facilities and will be very nice when its finished
To say UofM is trash just shows you havent been there since the renovations have started, they are also adding more seats to the Big House 10,000 more to be exact
The Big House wasnt a loud place because of design, now with the additions it is louder, and with the final phase of construction it will be louder still
Michigan Stadium Aerials - MICHIGAN STADIUM AERIALS
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I've been the lone Vol who has somewhat stood up for Michigan and the Big 10 on this thread. Unlike most on here I'm trying to look at from from a recruits perspective or the parent of a recruit, not a FAN's perspective. A fan...a blind UT fan in particular is obviously gonna look at the lure of playing in the SEC. Even though a recruit might look at it as an opportunity to get his brains beat out considering UT has done ZERO the past few years to contribute to the SEC's recent dominance. Is the SEC dominant? Without a doubt, but not due to UT(atleast recently). Is the Big 10 big time football? You damn right it is. It's not on par with the SEC...look at results overall. The Big 10 has 4 teams that are top 10 all time. Each team with as much history and tradition as UT. UT fans throw up Ohio St and Michigan vs UT, but they don't seem to wanna discuss UT's results against Penn St and Nebraska as of late. They wanna act like you can't get to the NFL from the Big 10. Which couldn't be further from the truth. From a recruits perspective, I could easily see the lure of playing at an upper echelon Big 10 school.

Again, is the SEC dominant? Without a doubt and it's not even close. But until we become relevant again, we need to quit yelling SEC. Because in theory were not the SEC, we're Tennessee. So quit riding the coat tales of what UF, Bama, and LSU has done as of late, and win some damn football games.

On the flip side. Your argument is weak and one of the most pathetic I've seen in some time. So you are gonna discuss the bad areas of Knoxville to justify UM having better facilities. Ever Metropolitan area has ghettos. Don't sit here and act like Michigan doesn't have ghettos. Michigan put the G in GHETTO. Don't forget it. I for one take a great deal of pride in Knoxville and don't appreciate you downing my city. Most major metro areas of Michigan are bonafide sh!tholes. So your point you attempted to make is laughable at best.

I have a TON of respect for UM. Don't like them, but respect them. Most of our fans beat their chests demanding respect while giving none. I view UM and UT as being on par with each other. Both top ten all time, great facilities, multiple NCs, etc. I could easily see why a recruit would be drawn to UM, and yes...he could EASILY go pro. But if you wanna down my city....I will NEVER respect you.
 
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ZeroDarkThirty said:
i asked this question before, but now with green officially announcing for michigan what are the plan b options for tennessee?
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Good question. It's literally getting to the point where we might have to pass on a back IMO. There are 3-5 IMO left that we should probably be willing to take. If we drop below them, I would rather save the scholly that use it on a guy just because he's a RB.
 
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true blue in tn said:
show me one post to back up your claim where someone has gloated about green.
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You're in here arguing about MI facilities vs Ut's in the green thread telling vol fans to GTFO. You are in a vol forum on a vol site. You are trolling IMO. Your post are pi$$ing people off and it's obvious. When i say you i am also speaking of your MI buddy too.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
You're in here arguing about MI facilities vs Ut's in the green thread telling vol fans to GTFO. You are in a vol forum on a vol site. You are trolling IMO. Your post are pi$$ing people off and it's obvious. When i say you i am also speaking of your MI buddy too.
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Don't get to bent outta shape my man. It's not worth it. Been playing Black Ops lately? I'm getting pretty dominant.
 
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