'14 TN RB/DB Daryl Rollins

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jave36 said:
Fair or not, I'll always associate Devrin with the MSU game.
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I get it. Some people love him because he's fron Knoxville, but if he were from Little Rock, he'd be as vilified as a lot of the other average players we have had recently by our fanbase.
 
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cncchris33 said:
For the life of me, the Devrin Young love by some is unfounded. His next big play will be his first. He is an average college football player, and that's his ceiling.

If Rollins is dropping anything close to sub-4.4's, he's a level ahead of Young.
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Young has had quite a few 40-50 yard returns in his time here. I would tend to consider that a big play. I think moving him from RB to WR to RB and now back to WR has played a part in his production. If the QB does not bother to look to get a kid the ball, he can't make a play. I think Young does very well in CBJ's offense.
 
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cncchris33 said:
For the life of me, the Devrin Young love by some is unfounded. His next big play will be his first. He is an average college football player, and that's his ceiling.

If Rollins is dropping anything close to sub-4.4's, he's a level ahead of Young.
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Many of us Vol fans love our team so much that we "have love" for every single player on the team. Those players that give their all each and every day. In the weight room, the class room and on the field. Devrin is a VFL who bleeds orange. That's where the "love" comes from for many. He may not be Travis Henry or Reggie White but he's still a Vol who gives his all for Tennessee.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Young has had quite a few 40-50 yard returns in his time here. I would tend to consider that a big play. I think moving him from RB to WR to RB and now back to WR has played a part in his production. If the QB does not bother to look to get a kid the ball, he can't make a play. I think Young does very well in CBJ's offense.
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I hope you're right, but moving back and forth from RB to WR (though not permanent position changes) didn't stunt Patterson's growth. Or Percy Harvin's.

Good players make plays, regardless of where they are playing. Young just isn't that good, so IMO, position irrespective, he's just average. As a returner, he's still not what I call a difference-maker, despite his few decent returns.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Many of us Vol fans love our team so much that we "have love" for every single player on the team. Those players that give their all each and every day. In the weight room, the class room and on the field. Devrin is a VFL who bleeds orange. That's where the "love" comes from for many. He may not be Travis Henry or Reggie White but he's still a Vol who gives his all for Tennessee.
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I agree, and I'm not questioning his loyalty or work ethic. Just stating that I feel his talent level is seen through orange-tinted glasses because he's the local boy everyone wants to see succeed, and he'll most likely never be what those people want him to be.

I love the fact that he is a good kid, represents the university well, and gives his all. I'm just not enamored with his talent.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I hope you're right, but moving back and forth from RB to WR (though not permanent position changes) didn't stunt Patterson's growth. Or Percy Harvin's.

Good players make plays, regardless of where they are playing. Young just isn't that good, so IMO, position irrespective, he's just average. As a returner, he's still not what I call a difference-maker, despite his few decent returns.
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He has gained around 1200 yards in his time at Tennessee. Not bad at all IMO. His 135 return yards vs LSU was pretty impressive. Noone is claiming he is a future top 5 NFL draft pick. The kid was a 2-3* RB prospect rated #118 at his position. 1200 yards is doing some decent work in very limited reps IMO.
 
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cncchris33 said:
For the life of me, the Devrin Young love by some is unfounded. His next big play will be his first. He is an average college football player, and that's his ceiling.

If Rollins is dropping anything close to sub-4.4's, he's a level ahead of Young.
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So you're saying that he's been properly used since his time on the hill? HB dives and off tackles are how you think a 170lb RB should be used? Perhaps that's the problem...being that just like Dooley and Chaney, you don't understand how a back his size should be used. God forbid they got him in space with screens, toss sweeps, reverses, etc. But nah...let's pound guts like he's 240lbs then say how bad he sucks. Smh
 
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Eric Gordon was only listed at 5-9. This guys around the same size. With his speed I think he's a take.
 
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Rollins recruitment will be interesting. RB speed but not great size. CB size, but not the best hips in the world....not the worst either. But with sub 4.4 speed I guess you don't have to have the best hips. Oh and the "not the best hips" comment was from his HS DB coach who created Fulton's S/C program and knows his sh*t. And it was made in comparison to Rogan who this gentleman also coached. He said they were equal but different talents. I think we should offer, because that speed is hard to come by. But it is more straightline speed from what I was told.
 
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RichRollin said:
So you're saying that he's been properly used since his time on the hill? HB dives and off tackles are how you think a 170lb RB should be used. Perhaps that's the problem...being that just like Dooley and Chaney, you don't understand how a back his size should be used. God forbid they got him in space with screens, toss sweeps, reverses, etc. But nah...let's pound guts like he's 240lbs then say how bad he sucks. Smh
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I've seen him used on sweeps and plays to the outside too. Nowhere did I say he was ideally used by the former clown shoes staff of ours, but you're naive to think he wasn't given plays to be successful as well.

Of course, my counter-argument to your scenario would be to ask why we are playing a 170 lb kid with average speed at RB to begin with?
 
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cncchris33 said:
I've seen him used on sweeps and plays to the outside too. Nowhere did I say he was ideally used by the former clown shoes staff of ours, but you're naive to think he wasn't given plays to be successful as well.

Of course, my counter-argument to your scenario would be to ask why we are playing a 170 lb kid with average speed at RB to begin with?
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I saw sweep plays, etc too. The problem is they would put him in for one play and try to do what was obvious. Then we wouldn't see him again. Whenever he was given multiple carries they ran him straight up the gut.

With that being said...Dooley is an effing clown! And yes, 170lbs is small for RB at Tennessee. But that's kinda my point. They should have moved him around and kept him in space. It's hard for me to say someone is a bad player when they're not used correctly. And there are multiple players on this team that I don't think we're used correctly during the Dooley era who I think will be productive before they leave. One is Young.
 
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RichRollin said:
I saw sweep plays, etc too. The problem is they would put him in for one play and try to do what was obvious. Then we wouldn't see him again. Whenever he was given multiple carries they ran him straight up the gut.

With that being said...Dooley is an effing clown! And yes, 170lbs is small for RB at Tennessee. But that's kinda my point. They should have moved him around and kept him in space. It's hard for me to say someone is a bad player when they're not used correctly. And there are multiple players on this team that I don't think we're used correctly during the Dooley era who I think will be productive before they leave. One is Young.
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I can agree with that, & I hope you're right. With Young, I'll have to see it to believe it. I'd love to be wrong. For the record, I didn't call him a bad player or say he sucked. I just don't think he's as dynamic as some others do.
 
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Jayson Swain ‏@JaysonSwain
Just talked to Fulton's Darryl Rollins father. No official offer from #Vols after posting electronic 4.35.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
Jayson Swain ‏@JaysonSwain
Just talked to Fulton's Darryl Rollins father. No official offer from #Vols after posting electronic 4.35.
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I was afraid of this. His DB coach said they were gonna work him at safety this year, said he didn't have the hips that say...a Dennis Rogan had. But he's not big enough for D-1 safety. He's kind of an odd athlete as far as projecting for the next level IMO. I saw the kid play but didn't pay attention to him on D. I know dude can flat out tote the rock. Size being the only issue there. Or hell, maybe he can't play CB in the SEC, maybe he can. But I would think he could atleast be a Nickle back, something....hate to see a kid like this get away, especially when we can take 30+ kids in this class. Guess its just gonna be a wait and see situation.
 
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