'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

Uh, UGA wasn't on their schedule. UT is. If you're not considering that caveat, you're not paying attention.

Doesn't matter when you graduate. I understand if it was within division but it's not. Within conference shouldn't matter if you paid your dues
 
Sankeys statement on the waiver doesn't mention schedule and emphasizes graduation in three years is enough to allow grad transfers within the conference:

"The standard for granting waivers has been clear and compelling evidence that there is reason for allowing an exception to SEC rules," said Sankey. "I found, among other contributing factors, that a student-athlete who graduates in three years and exhibits a strong commitment to his or her academic future provides compelling motivation to help them achieve their goals on and off the field."

SEC has no choice but to grant it.
 
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Sankeys statement on the waiver doesn't mention schedule and emphasizes graduation in three years is enough to allow grad transfers within the conference:

"The standard for granting waivers has been clear and compelling evidence that there is reason for allowing an exception to SEC rules," said Sankey. "I found, among other contributing factors, that a student-athlete who graduates in three years and exhibits a strong commitment to his or her academic future provides compelling motivation to help them achieve their goals on and off the field."

SEC has no choice but to grant it.

depends on what the "other factors" were.
 
I interpret that statement to mean there are other factors that support allowing this sort of transfer, not caveats that might prevent it.

i did too. just don't know what they are, and whether or not they may be absent in considering this transfer.
 
depends on what the "other factors" were.

I cant imagine that the schedule they release should dictate a kids future who graduated. There isn't a legit argument against it other than selfishness and a desire to negatively effect someone else's future. I would say the same to any Tennessee grad. does it suck as a fan? sure. But it's not my future on the line so I dont hold an argument.
 
I cant imagine that the schedule they release should dictate a kids future who graduated. There isn't a legit argument against it other than selfishness and a desire to negatively effect someone else's future. I would say the same to any Tennessee grad. does it suck as a fan? sure. But it's not my future on the line so I dont hold an argument.

i'm not against this transfer.....

just pointing out that there were other considerations made to allow the transfer to UGA, including the aforementioned academic reasons. and they weren't listed or specified in any way. so who's to say that the fact UGA was not a cross divisional opponent or division opponent, wasn't one of those "other factors"? i'm not saying it was either, just that we don't know.

that's all.

i think he's graduated, and he should be able to go wherever he wants.
 
Sankeys statement on the waiver doesn't mention schedule and emphasizes graduation in three years is enough to allow grad transfers within the conference:

"The standard for granting waivers has been clear and compelling evidence that there is reason for allowing an exception to SEC rules," said Sankey. "I found, among other contributing factors, that a student-athlete who graduates in three years and exhibits a strong commitment to his or her academic future provides compelling motivation to help them achieve their goals on and off the field."

SEC has no choice but to grant it.

This only means one thing… It is a guarantee now that the SEC will block the transfer, because we are Tennessee.
 
This only means one thing… It is a guarantee now that the SEC will block the transfer, because we are Tennessee.

NCAA will over turn the ability for Bama to block in June. Its inevitable and a good point of discussion when recruiting against them. For the recruiting aspect, I think having multiple instances of trying to block a grad transfer can be quite damning and a thought in every parents mind.
 
i'm not against this transfer.....

just pointing out that there were other considerations made to allow the transfer to UGA, including the aforementioned academic reasons. and they weren't listed or specified in any way. so who's to say that the fact UGA was not a cross divisional opponent or division opponent, wasn't one of those "other factors"? i'm not saying it was either, just that we don't know.

that's all.

i think he's graduated, and he should be able to go wherever he wants.

I hear ya. But if it was a big enough factor, I'm sure they'd list it. Fact is they put that quote out there. Nut up or prove that it's about the money and not the student part of a student athlete.
 
I hear ya. But if it was a big enough factor, I'm sure they'd list it. Fact is they put that quote out there. Nut up or prove that it's about the money and not the student part of a student athlete.

nah, you leave yourself wiggle room. some of this is subjective, and by being vague with that, you leave yourself an out to go the other way the next time a decision like this has to be made.

most of this is about setting precedents. there's nothing in writing that says one way or the other about transfers and what will or will not be allowed.

it's an appeals process, so it has to be case by case. and they'll use past precedents to help guide them to this decision and look at what's similar, dissimilar and whether or not the same outcome is warranted.
 
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i'm not against this transfer.....

just pointing out that there were other considerations made to allow the transfer to UGA, including the aforementioned academic reasons. and they weren't listed or specified in any way. so who's to say that the fact UGA was not a cross divisional opponent or division opponent, wasn't one of those "other factors"? i'm not saying it was either, just that we don't know.

that's all.

i think he's graduated, and he should be able to go wherever he wants.

You argument is flawed. Alabama can play Georgia or any other East Division team in the SEC Championship game. The young man has graduated and has earned the right to choose if, when, or where he wants to continue his education or football career. He isn't an indentured servant but a party to a contract of which he has fulfilled his obligation to it.
 
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You argument is flawed. Alabama can play Georgia or any other East Division team in the SEC Championship game. The young man has graduated and has earned the right to choose if, when, or where he wants to continue his education or football career. He isn't an indentured servant but a party to a contract of which he has fulfilled his obligation to it.

it's not my logic. i'm not saying it's their logic. just that we don't know what those other factors were, and how they'd be different in this situation.

the only thing we know that's the same is...he's from Bama, he's graduated, and he wants to go to another SEC school.

did you miss the part where i said he should be able to go where he wants in the post you quoted??????????????
 
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it's not my logic. i'm not saying it's their logic. just that we don't know what those other factors were, and how they'd be different in this situation.

the only thing we know that's the same is...he's from Bama, he's graduated, and he wants to go to another SEC school.

did you miss the part where i said he should be able to go where he wants in the post you quoted??????????????

Why are you so against this kid going where he wants? :)
 
I cant imagine that the schedule they release should dictate a kids future who graduated. There isn't a legit argument against it other than selfishness and a desire to negatively effect someone else's future. I would say the same to any Tennessee grad. does it suck as a fan? sure. But it's not my future on the line so I dont hold an argument.

Personally, I think Saban will lose the argument and he knows it. However, I think he has no choice but to fight each and every one of these to discourage other players from thinking this is a slam dunk option.

Although there are only a few players presently who will be able to avail themselves of this option, it will open the door to others who, with a little extra effort in the classroom, will also do so.

The option of being a grad transfer will never open the floodgates, so to speak, but it does have the potential of being a larger headache for the Sabans & Meyers of the world.
 
You argument is flawed. Alabama can play Georgia or any other East Division team in the SEC Championship game. The young man has graduated and has earned the right to choose if, when, or where he wants to continue his education or football career. He isn't an indentured servant but a party to a contract of which he has fulfilled his obligation to it.

- If I’m not mistaken, the young man is about to graduate, but hasn’t yet.

- Kennedy’s clearly indicated he wants to move on to another opportunity. If not in the SEC, then he’ll transfer somewhere else. He’s done at Bama.

- Nick Saban has clearly stated that “Winning is everything, there is nothing else.” He’s achieved that. And with that, he’s also clearly defined his character.
 
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