'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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Seems like the SEC really wants it Saban's way but they don't want the blowback they'd get from enforcing it so what we get is a rule that we just make you jump through hoops to get around.
 
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Saban only cares about losing a player to a rival SEC school. I don't buy for a second that he cares about the rule but that doesn't change the fact that it should be abolished.

As with Kirkland, if a kid can go through an SEC football athlete's schedule AND graduate in under 4 years, they deserve to transfer anywhere they so choose.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Some of these other guys aren't having issue inside conference like nick king. I think Saban just deflecting.

I think the rule should be that a graduate can transfer anywhere except within divison like TN player can't go to Florida, UGA, etc but can go to LSU, Bama etc
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If they graduate, I think they should be able to go wherever they want, even within division. They fulfilled the understood contract of obtaining their degree. If they still have eligibility and want to use it elsewhere, I say let them. Why punish them for doing what they were supposed to be doing in obtaining a degree?
 
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A graduate should be able to transfer wherever he wants. I may not not like it if one does, but they have earned that right by graduating.

If particular schools don't like it, they should prohibit their players from taking the necessary steps to graduate early, and let them know when recruiting them that they are doing so. If a kid then chooses a school that does prohibit early graduation, then it is on them for being dumb enough to attend there.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
A graduate should be able to transfer wherever he wants. I may not not like it if one does, but they have earned that right by graduating.
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That seems to be the majorities feeling.

So making it the rule and cut and dry is what needs to happen. That's what Saban seems to be saying to me
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I'm not sure what is going on here.

The rule is the player has to sit, no?
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Not graduate transfers under NCAA rules

It's my understanding the SEC added a rule saying grad transfers can't transfer within the conference. That's the rule Saban is talking about
 
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I just don't understand limiting grad transfers. The purpose of a football scholarship is, you play football for us and we'll pay for you to get your degree. Now that he's obtained his degree, the contract is fulfilled. He did what he was supposed to do. He should be free to pursue opportunity elsewhere.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I'm not sure what is going on here.

The rule is the player has to sit, no?
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Not graduate transfers..The problem now is guys are graduating really early by taking the steps to do so. I don't think that was foreseen by whoever crafted the rule.
 
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Weezer said:
I just don't understand limiting grad transfers. The purpose of a football scholarship is, you play football for us and we'll pay for you to get your degree. Now that he's obtained his degree, the contract is fulfilled. He did what he was supposed to do. He should be free to pursue opportunity elsewhere.
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But the kid didn't fulfill his end of this contract...he got his degree but the school didn't get 4 years of football from him. Admittedly, this doesn't appear to be the issue however.

If Saban and others that agree with him truly feel it's a form of "free agency", then you're going to see fewer and fewer kids getting into position to do so. The schools might encourage getting ahead on your class load, but they won't be so quick to have kids on the fast track to a degree.

Quick question for someone who might know...if Saban was so inclined to allow Kennedy to go elsewhere to play, can Bama do it on their own or is this a SEC rule that requires SEC approval?
 
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WinginFlorida said:
But the kid didn't fulfill his end of this contract...he got his degree but the school didn't get 4 years of football from him. Admittedly, this doesn't appear to be the issue however.

If Saban and others that agree with him truly feel it's a form of "free agency", then you're going to see fewer and fewer kids getting into position to do so. The schools might encourage getting ahead on your class load, but they won't be so quick to have kids on the fast track to a degree.

Quick question for someone who might know...if Saban was so inclined to allow Kennedy to go elsewhere to play, can Bama do it on their own or is this a SEC rule that requires SEC approval?
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scholarships are issued on an annual basis, not 4 years at a time.
 
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BruinVol said:
If that's the kicker then it should be open transfer anytime anywhere
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i agree. but i think Saban is right, i think there's a conf rule or stipulation about transfers.

i don't know that it includes grad transfers though??

honestly, i don't really care. if you graduate, and have eligibility still left and you want to transfer somewhere, be my guest.

there'd be times it'd suck for us, and others it would work out. i don't think we're talking about something that's a huge deal anyway. how many grad transfers happen every year anyway? 20? 30? 10?

either way, it's going to represent less than 1% of the total scholarship players playing football in a given season. and if your team either needs one that bad or can't live w/out one that bad, then you have bigger issues.

the guys that are going to start, 5th year or not, are going to stay. it's generally going to be situationally driven.:thumbsup:
 
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They're going to come up with a resolution this week at the spring meetings. Look for Sankey to clarify the requirements for grad transfers within conference without sitting a year. I'm sure it's already been run past legal. So we'll know within a few days.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
But the kid didn't fulfill his end of this contract...he got his degree but the school didn't get 4 years of football from him. Admittedly, this doesn't appear to be the issue however.

If Saban and others that agree with him truly feel it's a form of "free agency", then you're going to see fewer and fewer kids getting into position to do so. The schools might encourage getting ahead on your class load, but they won't be so quick to have kids on the fast track to a degree.

Quick question for someone who might know...if Saban was so inclined to allow Kennedy to go elsewhere to play, can Bama do it on their own or is this a SEC rule that requires SEC approval?
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Nick Saban processes kids left and right each year if he has a more talented kid. Forget him and his crying.

This young man must be really good.
 
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