'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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WinginFlorida said:
But the kid didn't fulfill his end of this contract...he got his degree but the school didn't get 4 years of football from him. Admittedly, this doesn't appear to be the issue however.

If Saban and others that agree with him truly feel it's a form of "free agency", then you're going to see fewer and fewer kids getting into position to do so. The schools might encourage getting ahead on your class load, but they won't be so quick to have kids on the fast track to a degree.

Quick question for someone who might know...if Saban was so inclined to allow Kennedy to go elsewhere to play, can Bama do it on their own or is this a SEC rule that requires SEC approval?
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On the flip side to the "free agency" talk, Saban doesn't seem to have a problem with the "get shirt" when he has a guy that's not gonna contribute and would rather have the open roster spot.
 
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Saban's blocking it because it's UT/Pruitt. Maurice Smith transferred from Bama to UGA, David Williams transferred from SCAR to Ark and Nick Harvey transferred from aTm to SCAR. It would be a bad look for the SEC to play hardball with Brandon Kennedy. Saban already looks hypocritical.
 
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BeecherVol said:
On the flip side to the "free agency" talk, Saban doesn't seem to have a problem with the "get shirt" when he has a guy that's not gonna contribute and would rather have the open roster spot.
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Doesn't Saban use the medical unable to perform tag much more than he cuts guys with the get shirt?
 
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Saban should be getting blasted for this, but I'm not seeing much negativity being thrown his way. Pro-Bama bias is strong.
 
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BruinVol said:
I am going with 75%

10% auburn

15% he isn't cleared to either
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Gonna be interesting what he does if he isn't cleared.

They need to permanently fix this. He shouldn't have restrictions if he has graduated. Could almost make an argument for him not needing that.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Gonna be interesting what he does if he isn't cleared.

They need to permanently fix this. He shouldn't have restrictions if he has graduated. Could almost make an argument for him not needing that.
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The biggest worry I have in him not being released is it's been said he was already taking graduate classes at Bama. With them having his major he wants then it defeats the real reason the rule was put into place
 
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SEC Transfer Rule

14.5.5 Four-Year College Transfers. See NCAA Bylaw 14.5.5.
14.5.5.1 Transferring within the Southeastern Conference. A transfer student from a member institution shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition at another member institution until the student has fulfilled a residence requirement of one full academic year (two full semesters) at the certifying institution. Further, a transfer student-athlete admitted after the 12th class day may not utilize that semester for the purpose of establishing residency. Student-athletes meeting the terms of NCAA Bylaws 14.5.5.2.1, 14.5.5.2.2, 14.5.5.2.3, 14.5.5.2.4, 14.5.5.2.5, 14.5.5.2.6, 14.5.5.2.7, 14.5.5.2.8 and 14.5.5.2.9 may seek a waiver of the provisions of this bylaw.
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http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2018/0217/2017-18%20SEC%20Constitution%20and%20Bylaws.pdf

Edit: And NCAA Bylaw 14.5.5 on Four-Year College Transfers if you want to look up all those terms:

Legislative Services Database - LSDBi
 
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Saban was evasive in his rant. Bama isn't following the SEC transfer rule-- Saban cherrypicked schools to block. Bama blocked Kennedy from transferring to 7 of the 8 OOC schools that Bama plays during Kennedy's remaining years of eligibility. Saban won't release him to transfer to any SEC school PLUS Ark St, Duke, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisville, NMSU, So Miss or The Citadel. Saban will release him to transfer to Western Carolina.

Let's just call it what it is-- Saban wants to grant a selective release that benefits nobody but Bama and try to shift the blame to the SEC.
 
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LA Vol said:
Saban's blocking it because it's UT/Pruitt. Maurice Smith transferred from Bama to UGA, David Williams transferred from SCAR to Ark and Nick Harvey transferred from aTm to SCAR. It would be a bad look for the SEC to play hardball with Brandon Kennedy. Saban already looks hypocritical.
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which is stupid considering Pruitt would bring more knowledge of Bama's schemes and plays than a back up center would.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
I wish Saban would just hop on his miniature pony and ride off into the sunset.
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WinginFlorida said:
Yes, I know. But practically speaking, how many times is a scholarship not renewed unless there are significant grounds to do so?
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Not the point. It's that it can. Like I said earlier, it's not that programs are making livings or rotting on the vine b/c of grand transfers. Nor are schollies being revoked at some alarming rate.

It's that they can't transfer w/out restriction.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
But the kid didn't fulfill his end of this contract...he got his degree but the school didn't get 4 years of football from him. Admittedly, this doesn't appear to be the issue however.

If Saban and others that agree with him truly feel it's a form of "free agency", then you're going to see fewer and fewer kids getting into position to do so. The schools might encourage getting ahead on your class load, but they won't be so quick to have kids on the fast track to a degree.

Quick question for someone who might know...if Saban was so inclined to allow Kennedy to go elsewhere to play, can Bama do it on their own or is this a SEC rule that requires SEC approval?
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Scholarships are one year contracts.
 
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LA Vol said:
Saban's blocking it because it's UT/Pruitt. Maurice Smith transferred from Bama to UGA, David Williams transferred from SCAR to Ark and Nick Harvey transferred from aTm to SCAR. It would be a bad look for the SEC to play hardball with Brandon Kennedy. Saban already looks hypocritical.
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This is why I don't get his it's the rules comment. Other players are transferring without issue in conference.

If he said it's because he has 2 yrs left or we play then then I'd understand but it still shouldn't matter since the kid graduated.

He can deflect all he wants but he is def the one blocking here
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
This is why I don't get his it's the rules comment. Other players are transferring without issue in conference.

If he said it's because he has 2 yrs left or we play then then I'd understand but it still shouldn't matter since the kid graduated.

He can deflect all he wants but he is def the one blocking here
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Has there been transfers from Bama he hasn't blocked within the league?
 
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BruinVol said:
Has there been transfers from Bama he hasn't blocked within the league?
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Doesn't matter. His words are "Its the SEC rule" meanwhile other players are confirmed transferring without issue or needs of an appeal. Saban is being incredibly disingenuous. If he said, this has always been the policy at Alabama, then your point has merit. That is not the case.

Again, this is a terrible strategy by Saban. All he does is show his ass by blocking kids since it will likely be overturned. For someone who fabricates bulletin board material, he sure is foolish by adding some on the recruiting trail.

For the ones complaining about responding, Shut Up. it's a message board and you aren't the arbiter of conversation. Log off. Take a lap. do whatever you need to do to cope.
 
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utvols88 said:
Doesn't matter. His words are "Its the SEC rule" meanwhile other players are confirmed transferring without issue or needs of an appeal. Saban is being incredibly disingenuous. If he said, this has always been the policy at Alabama, then your point has merit. That is not the case.

Again, this is a terrible strategy by Saban. All he does is show his ass by blocking kids since it will likely be overturned. For someone who fabricates bulletin board material, he sure is foolish by adding some on the recruiting trail.

For the ones complaining about responding, Shut Up. it's a message board and you aren't the arbiter of conversation. Log off. Take a lap. do whatever you need to do to cope.
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I have defended Satin here and I feel dang awfully dirty about it. So I just want to know the truth.

If Saban has stood behind the rule on ALL of his grad transfers within the SEC then i buy what he is saying


However if he selectively blocks his grad transfer guys then he is a hypocritical bastard.

Just looking for the truth
 
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