'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I have not stated anything false. Any poster besides you can see that. Hence why you shouldn't be allowed to post anymore.

Lol, good try again though.

P.S. anytime before this Kennedy could have talked to any of those school because he was granted a release. He would of just had to sit out a year.
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Lol
 
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BruinVol said:
Well that blows the OPs argument out of the water

lol
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Just to be clear. I'm not trolling or trying to rustle any Vols fans.

As I've stated before I have mixed feelings about players transfering to schools that compete against the school that invested extensively in educating and supporting them and developing them as football players.

That doesn't sit well with me and it probably doesn't sit well with his UA teammates. I believe the best interests of the student athlete wanting to transfer and those of his teammates are both very important.

I also think it matters a lot what the primary motivation is. Is it needed in order to accommodate his graduate academic pursuits? Has he been "recruited" by other schools to transfer? Or some other reason?

I try to be objective about it and keep in mind that every potential transfer can have different circumstances and factors to consider.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I have not stated anything false. Any poster besides you can see that. Hence why you shouldn't be allowed to post anymore.

Lol, good try again though.

P.S. anytime before this Kennedy could have talked to any of those school because he was granted a release. He would of just had to sit out a year.
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You realize Bruin is in hog heaven right now, having someone to argue stupid, unimportant things with, right??

Don’t feed the troll
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Just to be clear. I'm not trolling or trying to rustle any Vols fans.

As I've stated before I have mixed feelings about players transfering to schools that compete against the school that invested extensively in educating and supporting them and developing them as football players.

That doesn't sit well with me and it probably doesn't sit well with his UA teammates. I believe the best interests of the student athlete wanting to transfer and those of his teammates are both very important.

I also think it matters a lot what the primary motivation is. Is it needed in order to accommodate his graduate academic pursuits? Has he been "recruited" by other schools to transfer? Or some other reason?

I try to be objective about it and keep in mind that every potential transfer can have different circumstances and factors to consider.
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Stack em up like cordwood and then play keep away amirite?..It has worked for Bama since the Bryant days, and a lot of really talented kids are stupid enough to keep buyin in.

Maybe kids will finally start wising up now..
 
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utvols88 said:
This proves Saban was outright lying when saying the only thing blocking the transfer was the SEC.
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Are you certain that's exactly what Saban said? He might have, but I haven't seen video or printed quotes of him stating that per se.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Just to be clear. I'm not trolling or trying to rustle any Vols fans.

As I've stated before I have mixed feelings about players transfering to schools that compete against the school that invested extensively in educating and supporting them and developing them as football players.

That doesn't sit well with me and it probably doesn't sit well with his UA teammates. I believe the best interests of the student athlete wanting to transfer and those of his teammates are both very important.

I also think it matters a lot what the primary motivation is. Is it needed in order to accommodate his graduate academic pursuits? Has he been "recruited" by other schools to transfer? Or some other reason?

I try to be objective about it and keep in mind that every potential transfer can have different circumstances and factors to consider.
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Objective? Please.

We have people who want a free enterprise to allow college athletes to sign endorsement deals. Yet, you don't like players transferring anywhere (upon graduation) when the school "invested extensively in educating them and supporting them and developing them as football players."

Just asinine. When players graduate, they should be free to do whatever they want. If they were happy and in a great situation, they would stay.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Did you not see the Finebaum interview from the SEC spring meetings?
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I didn't. But I saw the following printed quote on the topic from that interview:

NS: “Well, I think first of all the whole transfer issue should not be something that should fall on the coach. I think every player ought to have the right to go wherever he wants, but I also think he ought to have some consequence for the commitment that he made. We have all these conditional commitments, I call them, in the world now, you know? I’m committed to you but, aight, or maybe or if it goes my way or however we might look at it. And I think that’s OK to a point, but I think there should be a consequence for that. So, you ought to be able to transfer wherever you want. The notification rule is fine with me for undergraduates, but you have to sit out a year. If you’re a graduate, if you want to go someplace else, even if we have to extend your clock, you should have to sit out a year and qualify in graduate school.

“So, we say it’s for academic reasons we made the graduate transfer rule. What is the benefit to us? We’ve made an investment in summer school so that we could graduate guys early. I think we had 25 or 26 guys in the national championship game who already had degrees, and I’m sure Georgia had quite a few as well, aight, so we have all made a significant investment in making sure these guys graduate. So, now we accelerate their graduation so they can extend their degree programs if they want to, and now all the sudden it works against us, so why would we do that? I mean it shouldn’t be that way for the student-athlete. So, I think they should be able, if they graduate, go wherever they want to go, but I also think there should be a little consequence for them in terms of their choosing to do that.”
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Are you certain that's exactly what Saban said? He might have, but I haven't seen video or printed quotes of him stating that per se.
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"Why is this on me? it's the SEC rule."

The SEC rule doesn't include OOC. He blocked all but one making it on him and him alone.

Saban is lying but he has a habit of lying so it's not surprising. As a dolphin fan, I know all about his inability to take blame or admit hes doing something unpopular.
 
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Saban on Brandon Kennedy's potential transfer: We should change the rule, it shouldn't be on me. If we agree to have free agency in this year, we should do it but if we don't, why is it on me? Why is it on me? It's not even my decision.. It's a conference rule. Why is that on me?


^^^^

If it's not his decision, why is one school left off of the list? Because it's his decision and he damn well knows it. Saban has always been a selfish piece of ****. Has nothing to do with the University of Alabama.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
NS: “Well, I think first of all the whole transfer issue should not be something that should fall on the coach. I think every player ought to have the right to go wherever he wants, but I also think he ought to have some consequence for the commitment that he made.
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I have a solution. And one I think it fair and balanced.


All players that sign with a school go to that school for the duration of their eligibility.

If the player wants out of that commitment they sit out a year to transfer. Graduate or not


Schools commit to a kid for the duration of their eligibility. If the schools wants out of that committed the player can transfer without sitting out and play immediately. The school losses one scholarship from their next signing class meaning they can only sign 24 and only have 84 players on scholarship.



This plan makes the schools committed to the kids and vice versa and getting a divorce is exspensive
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Just to be clear. I'm not trolling or trying to rustle any Vols fans.

As I've stated before I have mixed feelings about players transfering to schools that compete against the school that invested extensively in educating and supporting them and developing them as football players.

That doesn't sit well with me and it probably doesn't sit well with his UA teammates. I believe the best interests of the student athlete wanting to transfer and those of his teammates are both very important.

I also think it matters a lot what the primary motivation is. Is it needed in order to accommodate his graduate academic pursuits? Has he been "recruited" by other schools to transfer? Or some other reason?

I try to be objective about it and keep in mind that every potential transfer can have different circumstances and factors to consider.
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It's a 2 way street that is blinded by allegiances.

If the kid has no shot at playing there and you don't think he's very good ( regardless of 247 and Rivals) you cut him loose and go sign another if you haven't already. And nobody cares. Erbody happy.

If he's good but you have some exceptional players in front of him keeping him on the bench you don't want him to leave (emergency) much less go somewhere that he could hurt you.
But he also wants to get on the field.

At the end of the day it's really simple to me. You give a school enough time for you to earn a degree from there you deserve to do what's best for you after that. Regardless of whether that helps Bama, UF, UGA or UT
 
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BruinVol said:
I have a solution. And one I think it fair and balanced.


All players that sign with a school go to that school for the duration of their eligibility.

If the player wants out of that commitment they sit out a year to transfer. Graduate or not


Schools commit to a kid for the duration of their eligibility. If the schools wants out of that committed the player can transfer without sitting out and play immediately. The school losses one scholarship from their next signing class meaning they can only sign 24 and only have 84 players on scholarship.



This plan makes the schools committed to the kids and vice versa and getting a divorce is exspensive
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That doesn't seem fair and balance. Also I think it takes away all aspects of the student part of being a student athlete, which is the foundation of why the NCAA works. I don't like Kirby Smart but I think he has the best idea.
 
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VolInDayton said:
That doesn't seem fair and balance. Also I think it takes away all aspects of the student part of being a student athlete, which is the foundation of why the NCAA works. I don't like Kirby Smart but I think he has the best idea.
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What is kirbys idea?


I just want schools to be penalized for processing guys the same way players are penalized for transferring

What part did you think wasn't balanced?
 
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BeecherVol said:
It's a 2 way street that is blinded by allegiances.

If the kid has no shot at playing there and you don't think he's very good ( regardless of 247 and Rivals) you cut him loose and go sign another if you haven't already. And nobody cares. Erbody happy.

If he's good but you have some exceptional players in front of him keeping him on the bench you don't want him to leave (emergency) much less go somewhere that he could hurt you.
But he also wants to get on the field.

At the end of the day it's really simple to me. You give a school enough time for you to earn a degree from there you deserve to do what's best for you after that. Regardless of whether that helps Bama, UF, UGA or UT
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:toast: Pretty good summation, I must say.

It's looking like the NCAA may soon make some changes to transfer rules, reducing or eliminating some constraints. It's hard to predict what all might happen as a result.

One concern Saban mentioned as a potential unintended consequence is that transfer freedom might lead to top programs being able to sometimes cherry pick star players from other schools to fill a hole on their roster, as some players could be enticed by the opportunity to play for a top tier program that's a frequent CFP contender.
 
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#774
BeecherVol said:
It's a 2 way street that is blinded by allegiances.

If the kid has no shot at playing there and you don't think he's very good ( regardless of 247 and Rivals) you cut him loose and go sign another if you haven't already. And nobody cares. Erbody happy.

If he's good but you have some exceptional players in front of him keeping him on the bench you don't want him to leave (emergency) much less go somewhere that he could hurt you.
But he also wants to get on the field.

At the end of the day it's really simple to me. You give a school enough time for you to earn a degree from there you deserve to do what's best for you after that. Regardless of whether that helps Bama, UF, UGA or UT
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Giddyup!👍
 
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