'15 Fl QB Deondre Francois

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Kook said:
Or, you know. We get 2 QB's and neither transfer. Then we use the 3rd scholly for another position (OL or LB) that won't need to transfer either.

And if we need 2 qb's next class, then take 2.

But if we get 3 QB's this class, one is almost certainly guaranteed to transfer, thus, making it relatively pointless.
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OR you know, we may have told AK he was our only Qb for next year, which I read a month or so back, which is why I posted what I did, and then we cant take 2 in '16. You know, maybe the coaches convince JJ that he wont be drafted at Qb but could be drafted as a S.
 
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sigchig said:
JC believes Dormady has a great arm and can run enough to be successful at Tennessee. He said Jones runs a little better than Francois, but francois is the better passer by a little. Basically Jones and francois are interchangeable for our purposes. :hi:
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Disagree with him. Quite a bit, actually.
 
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sigchig said:
What is your assessment then lotto? :hi:
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I think Francois has a MUCH better arm than Jones.

I just don't see the velocity behind Jones' throws.

I like Jones, but I'm not sure about him being the third QB when we need OL.

I would take Francois in a heartbeat, though.

JMO.

#StillontheWallertrain
 
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VolNilla Ice said:
OR you know, we may have told AK he was our only Qb for next year, which I read a month or so back, which is why I posted what I did, and then we cant take 2 in '16. You know, maybe the coaches convince JJ that he wont be drafted at Qb but could be drafted as a S.
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Thats funny, I remember reading that QD and JJ were told they would be the only QBs in '15. :eek:hmy:
 
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The more film I watch of him the more I see how much of a fit he can be. He is a pass first guy but can beat you with his feet (Jameis Winston?? No wonder he is committed there)
 
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Kook said:
Thats funny, I remember reading that QD and JJ were told they would be the only QBs in '15. :eek:hmy:
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Yea but things change and apparently behind the scenes there is something cooking. (Peterman gone, more schollies open b/c of xfers) I dont pretend to know but its fun speculating. Some people take themselves WAY too seriously on this board.
 
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VolNilla Ice said:
Yea but things change and apparently behind the scenes there is something cooking. (Peterman gone, more schollies open b/c of xfers) I dont pretend to know but its fun speculating. Some people take themselves WAY too seriously on this board.
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I'm not taking myself to seriously, I assure you of that.

But you can't say we need 3 this class because we told AK he would be the only QB in '16, when we told QD and JJ they would be the only two for '15. It works both ways.

All promises aside, you have to agree that going 2 and 2 is more ideal than going 3 and 1. That is, unless one of the 3 is JUCO, which isn't the case.
 
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Kook said:
I'm not taking myself to seriously, I assure you of that.

But you can't say we need 3 this class because we told AK he would be the only QB in '16, when we told QD and JJ they would be the only two for '15. It works both ways.

All promises aside, you have to agree that going 2 and 2 is more ideal than going 3 and 1. That is, unless one of the 3 is JUCO, which isn't the case.
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Yes but if you redshirt one in this class and he learns the system he will be farther along than the 16 guy. If Francois wants in then you take him. You can be more cautious with jones but francois is a great player. Really we need 4 scholarship QBs and if peterman leaves (very likely) then we need one more in this class.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Maybe.

Maybe if CBJ did not over sign positions so much we would see fewer guys bailing on the program after 8-10 months? IMO he plays this one smart and just signs Jennings and Dormady. With the guys left in play on the board, IMO a 3rd HS QB in the same class is probably a wasted scholarship. Why set yourself up for more transfers? I'd use the spot elsewhere.
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Read the article Leb. Hendrix was leaving regardless of how many we signed last year. He said, "I wasn't happy." In other words, he said, "I'm soft and need to be pampered." Same with Scott and Helm.
 
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Kook said:
I'm not taking myself to seriously, I assure you of that.

But you can't say we need 3 this class because we told AK he would be the only QB in '16, when we told QD and JJ they would be the only two for '15. It works both ways.

All promises aside, you have to agree that going 2 and 2 is more ideal than going 3 and 1. That is, unless one of the 3 is JUCO, which isn't the case.
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Well I am not a coach that told anyone anything, so u need to run tell that to the coaching staff. Im going off what ive read about what theyve told AK. I dont agree b/c if Peterman is gone, we have Dobbs and what we bring in this class as scholly backups. 3 is MUCH better than 2. (Hopefully JJ and QD understand the situation IF it happens) Whoever starts out of those guys is the best of the 3, I just hope IF its not JJ, Butch sells him on moving to S b/c I think he would be a Deon Grant type Safety. Like Dylan Jackson, if he has pro aspirations, his pro career may depend on making a move.
 
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eazyTD said:
Fortenberry says Francois is visiting Tennessee on January 16th with OT Tyree St.Louis
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LotteryPick said:
I think Francois has a MUCH better arm than Jones.

I just don't see the velocity behind Jones' throws.

I like Jones, but I'm not sure about him being the third QB when we need OL.

I would take Francois in a heartbeat, though.

JMO.

#StillontheWallertrain
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Jones makes quick reads which is a huge deal in our offense. He appears to have a weaker arm though. If we didn't have Dormady I would say take him. Quick reads might be more important in our offense than a strong arm, but I still prefer a strong arm qb.

Francois is a take and would be a good battle between him and Dormady.
 
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VolNilla Ice said:
Well I am not a coach that told anyone anything, so u need to run tell that to the coaching staff. Im going off what ive read about what theyve told AK.
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And like I have said, QD and JJ were told the same thing. So I wouldn't put too much stock in AK being the only qb in '16. I'm not even personally upset by the coaches taking back things they have said. I'm just trying to get my point through, that AK is not protected from weak promises more than QD and JJ seem to be.

If we try to move JJ to safety, we risk losing him and whoever loses out between QD and DF/SJ. Then all the sudden we need 3 in the '16 class. Then what will AK do?

I'm just saying. Sometimes being a man down isn't as bad as being greedy can end up.

Dip each cookie only twice and it isn't as likely to crumble, but you still get some milk on it. And milk on the cookie is the end goal, correct?

*Also, I am in no way trying to be a jerk in any of this. I am simply just sharing my point with you.
 
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Kook said:
Or, you know. We get 2 QB's and neither transfer. Then we use the 3rd scholly for another position (OL or LB) that won't need to transfer either.

And if we need 2 qb's next class, then take 2.

But if we get 3 QB's this class, one is almost certainly guaranteed to transfer, thus, making it relatively pointless.
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No we if Peterman does leave we only take two, especially with Jennings's not even guaranteed to be a QB after he gets there. I'm sure they give him the shot they promised him but can see it playing out like Cobb at Kentucky where their potential money making potential is somewhere else. But satisfy him and then move him if you see him a better fit as safety, where most seem to think. But no way they can afford to risk having one true Tr Fr QB behind Dobbs then Jennings and a bunch of walkons. Just like last yr we got dangerously close to seeing who the hell knows at QB if Dobbs got knocked out. You have got to have atleast 3 and really 4 QB's on scholarship for that reason. No you most likely wont be able to keep 4-5 parade all americans or 4* or 5* but atleast one that is atleast servicable and can bridge gaps between highly ranked guys. If Nate stays then no they won't have to or if they know of transfer who has graduated and can play immediately. Nate staying, or either a juco or transfer coming in would be the ideal situation.
 
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Kook said:
Thats funny, I remember reading that QD and JJ were told they would be the only QBs in '15. :eek:hmy:
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I think they would be if Nate was staying. But losing the SR Worley, Nate graduating and if he transfers that changes everything. If JJ was a sure fire guarantee to stay at QB and if Dormady wasnt battling another shoulder problem then they possibly could get by with just two then Kendall gets here the next yr. But Jennings isn't a lock to play QB after he gets his shot from the Coach's. I'm sure Dormady's shoulder's will be fine but getting down to 4th string QB last yr and a walkon backing him up and 3rd string this yr has disaster written all over it.
 
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Kook said:
And like I have said, QD and JJ were told the same thing. So I wouldn't put too much stock in AK being the only qb in '16. I'm not even personally upset by the coaches taking back things they have said. I'm just trying to get my point through, that AK is not protected from weak promises more than QD and JJ seem to be.

If we try to move JJ to safety, we risk losing him and whoever loses out between QD and DF/SJ. Then all the sudden we need 3 in the '16 class. Then what will AK do?

I'm just saying. Sometimes being a man down isn't as bad as being greedy can end up.

Dip each cookie only twice and it isn't as likely to crumble, but you still get some milk on it. And milk on the cookie is the end goal, correct?

*Also, I am in no way trying to be a jerk in any of this. I am simply just sharing my point with you.
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WTF? :unsure:
 
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Kook said:
And like I have said, QD and JJ were told the same thing. So I wouldn't put too much stock in AK being the only qb in '16. I'm not even personally upset by the coaches taking back things they have said. I'm just trying to get my point through, that AK is not protected from weak promises more than QD and JJ seem to be.

If we try to move JJ to safety, we risk losing him and whoever loses out between QD and DF/SJ. Then all the sudden we need 3 in the '16 class. Then what will AK do?

I'm just saying. Sometimes being a man down isn't as bad as being greedy can end up.

Dip each cookie only twice and it isn't as likely to crumble, but you still get some milk on it. And milk on the cookie is the end goal, correct?

*Also, I am in no way trying to be a jerk in any of this. I am simply just sharing my point with you.
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I don't see JJ leaving if they give him the chance they promised him. But if he doesn't make it as a QB and they move him to safety it works out great. If he doesn't wanna make the move then he can transfer out, which would just open up another scholly. Truthfully I would be shocked if he ever plays a down as a QB in Knoxville. Seems to be a general consesnsus he has freakinsh athletic ability and has potentially NFL safety type talent. If that's true you gotta check the ego at the store and decide do you go out and work towards getting paid as an NFL safety or does he stay stubborn as hell like Tebow and not change positions to stay in the league. But Tebow was too well knownand was gonna make money whether he played football or not. Not everyone has that luxory and opportunity.
 
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Maybe we get Jones(QB) and Francois in a steel cage match to the death for the final spot. Then put Peterman in handcuffs and he fights the winner for the 4th QB spot on the roster.
 
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white65 said:
Maybe we get Jones(QB) and Francois in a steel cage match to the death for the final spot. Then put Peterman in handcuffs and he fights the winner for the 4th QB spot on the roster.
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Nate won't have to do that since he will be gone after the bowl game from all indications. If he was staying there is no way they start looking at another QB, but with Jones and Francois talking to Coach's and both coming in for visits is probably a good indicator on what is gonna happen with Nate. Especially with him already graduating he wouldn't have to sit out a yr.
 
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Francois is the most game ready qb IMO this year that is a realistic possibility. He's better IMO than anyone we have committed better than anyone we're in on as well. Dormady and Jennings have high potential but Francois is better right now IMO. I would take him over Jones and its not close IMHO. St Louis is just even more incentive there as well.
 
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