'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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LebanonVolunteer said:
I doubt it would have anything to do with being "afraid". It would have to do with not wanting to be part of a logjam at QB if a coach tries and take 3 in 1 year. WarMachine took the time to look back at previous UT classes. 1 time in about a dozen years UT took 3 and that 1 time Nash Nance was the 3rd guy(to get Da'Rick). I would not blame a kid a second for not wanting to walk into that sort of deal IF he decided not to.

The crazy thing is IMO Dormady holds all the cards now. When your the most talented QB coming in, I doubt the coach is going to do something to lose you. We'll see.
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No it would be about he doesn't want to compete that hard for a starting job. Whats has happened in the past is completely irrelevant. CBJ may want to do things completely different. You seem to want to make excuses for QD. The bottom line is this: you have said in other threads that we should trust our coaches as they know whats best for the team. So you need to take your own advice. If our coaches like TG at QB and wants him here then you should support that.

Competition breeds excellence. A really good QB competition will make them all better. You don't know QD is the most talented passer so thats irrelevant. He might be and if he is then there should be no problem with him competing for the job. I can blame a kid for not wanting to compete. It means he wants the job handed to him. Sorry it doesn't work that way. So keep on with your conjecture.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
No it would be about he doesn't want to compete that hard for a starting job. Whats has happened in the past is completely irrelevant. CBJ may want to do things completely different. You seem to want to make excuses for QD. The bottom line is this: you have said in other threads that we should trust our coaches as they know whats best for the team. So you need to take your own advice. If our coaches like TG at QB and wants him here then you should support that.

Competition breeds excellence. A really good QB competition will make them all better. You don't know QD is the most talented passer so thats irrelevant. He might be and if he is then there should be no problem with him competing for the job. I can blame a kid for not wanting to compete. It means he wants the job handed to him. Sorry it doesn't work that way. So keep on with your conjecture.
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yet if Gibson wanted to compete so badly at QB as you mention and is ready to take the chance of competition to make himself better; why does he camp as a WR? something in here doesn't add up.
 
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LouderVol said:
yet if Gibson wanted to compete so badly at QB as you mention and is ready to take the chance of competition to make himself better; why does he camp as a WR? something in here doesn't add up.
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How do you know TG just doesn't like to play WR at these camps? Few if any QBs in this class posses the kind of athletic skill TG has. If he comes here, competes at QB and CBJ doesnt think he is good enough then he can move him to WR. Also how do you know he isn't taking steps to improve himself as a QB? Just because he isn't playing QB at camps?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
No it would be about he doesn't want to compete that hard for a starting job. Whats has happened in the past is completely irrelevant. CBJ may want to do things completely different. You seem to want to make excuses for QD. The bottom line is this: you have said in other threads that we should trust our coaches as they know whats best for the team. So you need to take your own advice. If our coaches like TG at QB and wants him here then you should support that.

Competition breeds excellence. A really good QB competition will make them all better. You don't know QD is the most talented passer so thats irrelevant. He might be and if he is then there should be no problem with him competing for the job. I can blame a kid for not wanting to compete. It means he wants the job handed to him. Sorry it doesn't work that way. So keep on with your conjecture.
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A QB will have competition no matter what. Please note that JJ being a QB commitment did not phase QD. The QBs already on campus did not phase QD. IF UT does the smart thing and takes just the 2 QBs in 2015, obviously the 2016 QB UT may get did not phase QD. Looks like there would be a lot of competition even if TG was not a part of it.

Your sold on CBJ being 100% all in on TG and him playing QB. Of course at this point you would be guessing. The fact is CBJ has taken 2 QBs in 2015, and TG is not one of them.
 
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Wait...I though TG was being recruited as a WR? Why would recruiting a weapon at WR tempt Dormady to leave?

:question:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
A QB will have competition no matter what. Please note that JJ being a QB commitment did not phase QD. The QBs already on campus did not phase QD. IF UT does the smart thing and takes just the 2 QBs in 2015, obviously the 2016 QB UT may get did not phase QD. Looks like there would be a lot of competition even if TG was not a part of it.

Your sold on CBJ being 100% all in on TG and him playing QB. Of course at this point you would be guessing. The fact is CBJ has taken 2 QBs in 2015, and TG is not one of them.
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So then why would Gibson phase QD?

Every place that has talked about TG and CBJ says BJ is taking him at QB. He has never played WR at HS just QB. All I am going off of is what has been said. Now if we land TG and CBJ puts him at WR, then fine.

You're sold on CBJ being 100% on JJ being a QB. That is guessing. Its assumed that CBJ told JJ he would get a shot at QB but that may not be the case. He may move him to DB. You don't know and neither do I. You're taking the word of a recruit that is no more trustworthy than any other recruit.

No the fact is CBJ has taken 1 QB and 1 ATH. I have provided many links in the past that all state TG playing QB. Until anything differently is said then he is a QB.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So then why would Gibson phase QD?

Every place that has talked about TG and CBJ says BJ is taking him at QB. He has never played WR at HS just QB. All I am going off of is what has been said. Now if we land TG and CBJ puts him at WR, then fine.

You're sold on CBJ being 100% on JJ being a QB. That is guessing. Its assumed that CBJ told JJ he would get a shot at QB but that may not be the case. He may move him to DB. You don't know and neither do I. You're taking the word of a recruit that is no more trustworthy than any other recruit.

No the fact is CBJ has taken 1 QB and 1 ATH. I have provided many links in the past that all state TG playing QB. Until anything differently is said then he is a QB.
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So we are guessing at JJ being QB, but you are saying TG is a QB until said otherwise? Where are there any actual links where JJ is being brought in as anything other than a QB?

Personally, I think JJ will end up being moved to defense. But I have no reason to believe he is being taken as any position other and QB at this point.

If fair is fair, then either both JJ and TG are QB's, or both are ATH. We can't be here on VN choosing either or...
 
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eazyTD said:
Wait...I though TG was being recruited as a WR? Why would recruiting a weapon at WR tempt Dormady to leave?

:question:
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It was my opinion that TG was only a take at WR.

It was a lot of others opinion he was a take at QB.

Of course if he was taken as a WR and QB was not something he would even get a shot at it would not affect QD.

I honestly think it does not matter now. I just don't see where there is any room to take him at any position.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So then why would Gibson phase QD?

Every place that has talked about TG and CBJ says BJ is taking him at QB. He has never played WR at HS just QB. All I am going off of is what has been said. Now if we land TG and CBJ puts him at WR, then fine.

You're sold on CBJ being 100% on JJ being a QB. That is guessing. Its assumed that CBJ told JJ he would get a shot at QB but that may not be the case. He may move him to DB. You don't know and neither do I. You're taking the word of a recruit that is no more trustworthy than any other recruit.

No the fact is CBJ has taken 1 QB and 1 ATH. I have provided many links in the past that all state TG playing QB. Until anything differently is said then he is a QB.
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Its been said TG has only played QB for 1 year in HS. He is going into his SR year. What position did he play the other 2 years?

The difference is CBJ took JJ, and has NOT taken TG. I'll trust CBJ will do what he told JJ he would do and give him his shot at QB.

It was refreshing to see CBJ allow JJ to play QB at UTs camp. Not moving him to WR should be seen as a plus. JMO. :)
 
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Ahh, a QB controversy has already begun and it is over a year before either can line up in a game. A QB will have competition anywhere he goes. If not his Freshman year, there could be studs and ballers being recruited right behind him the next year and the next. The competition argument is silly and makes for some good banter on VN, but it is meaningless. VN posters have their agendas and will make any argument, foolish or otherwise to prove their point. Who knows----Jennings could win the job and fool everyone. Or, a kid now 16 could come in the year after and sit all of them down.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
It was my opinion that TG was only a take at WR.

It was a lot of others opinion he was a take at QB.

Of course if he was taken as a WR and QB was not something he would even get a shot at it would not affect QD.

I honestly think it does not matter now. I just don't see where there is any room to take him at any position.
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Ah, I see.
 
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Tennkook said:
So we are guessing at JJ being QB, but you are saying TG is a QB until said otherwise? Where are there any actual links where JJ is being brought in as anything other than a QB?

Personally, I think JJ will end up being moved to defense. But I have no reason to believe he is being taken as any position other and QB at this point.

If fair is fair, then either both JJ and TG are QB's, or both are ATH. We can't be here on VN choosing either or...
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I actually disagree with your last comment. Once you have 2 QBs committed, the 3rd kid being an ATH COULD very well be a take ONLY at a position other than QB. UTs staff could easily IMO pass on taking a 3rd QB but choose to offer the "ATH" at another position.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I actually disagree with your last comment. Once you have 2 QBs committed, the 3rd kid being an ATH COULD very well be a take ONLY at a position other than QB. UTs staff could easily IMO pass on taking a 3rd QB but choose to offer the "ATH" at another position.
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I think you took that a little too literally. It was not about the players, and more about a stance on the argument. That is why I added "if fair is fair". I was just saying, one can't say it's wrong to say TG would be a take at WR without proof...while saying JJ will be moved to safety without proof.
 
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Tennkook said:
I think you took that a little too literally. It was not about the players, and more about a stance on the argument. That is why I added "if fair is fair". I was just saying, one can't say it's wrong to say TG would be a take at WR without proof...while saying JJ will be moved to safety without proof.
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I gotcha. As far as JJ goes, I stick with what CBJ told him. CBJ knows JJ was not going to consider schools not offering the QB shot. JJ committed to UT and CBJ took his commitment. I can put that together easily enough.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I gotcha. As far as JJ goes, I stick with what CBJ told him. CBJ knows JJ was not going to consider schools not offering the QB shot. JJ committed to UT and CBJ took his commitment. I can put that together easily enough.
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And Gibson is only looking at schools to play QB and we lead. Butch is still after Gibson hard. Put that together.
 
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One Commitment Every SEC Team Wishes It Could Get This Summer | Bleacher Report

Nice article and here are some relevant tidbits.

"The Volunteers would jump for joy if 5-star dual-threat quarterback Torrance Gibson committed to them this summer. Head coach Butch Jones is acquiring a lot of talent these days, and a big-time quarterback may be the missing piece for the Vols to be set up to dominate future SEC seasons."

At 6'4" and 200 pounds, Gibson is a Florida native who has raw arm talent and explosive athleticism.


Torrance Gibson is a wanted man in the SEC, as Auburn is also wishing it could get him on board by the end of the summer.

The lefty is a dual-threat quarterback who has the potential to remind people on The Plains of former quarterback Cam Newton. Gibson has good arm strength, plus he can dazzle audiences with his speed, quickness and elusiveness as a runner.

I am sure UT and AU are recruiting him as a WR though. This article along with a bunch more must all be smoke screens. Its obvious that Butch Jones and Guz Malzhan don't not know what they are talking about. They must be terrible recruiters.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
One Commitment Every SEC Team Wishes It Could Get This Summer | Bleacher Report

Nice article and here are some relevant tidbits.

"The Volunteers would jump for joy if 5-star dual-threat quarterback Torrance Gibson committed to them this summer. Head coach Butch Jones is acquiring a lot of talent these days, and a big-time quarterback may be the missing piece for the Vols to be set up to dominate future SEC seasons."

At 6'4" and 200 pounds, Gibson is a Florida native who has raw arm talent and explosive athleticism.


Torrance Gibson is a wanted man in the SEC, as Auburn is also wishing it could get him on board by the end of the summer.

The lefty is a dual-threat quarterback who has the potential to remind people on The Plains of former quarterback Cam Newton. Gibson has good arm strength, plus he can dazzle audiences with his speed, quickness and elusiveness as a runner.

I am sure UT and AU are recruiting him as a WR though. This article along with a bunch more must all be smoke screens. Its obvious that Butch Jones and Guz Malzhan don't not know what they are talking about. They must be terrible recruiters.
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Yea you know the VN recruiting experts know more than Butch, Gus , 247, Rivals, and Scout combined.
 
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k-town_king said:
All the articles from 247, Scout, and Rivals say the same thing.
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I'm not saying TG isn't a QB...so i'm not the one to argue with. I just found it humorous out of all of the articles out there that mention TG at QB, bleacher report is used.
 
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