'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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roosterjbh said:
So TG went up against other QBs at the biggest QB camp at the country to try and improve? Wasn't one of your biggest gripes about him was he was scared to throw at camps?
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I really don't care at this point. He could have looked like the best QB at the Opening and IMO he still would not be a take with us having 2 QBs already onboard. I don't see our coaches taking 3 QBs. Hoping for the 4-5* ATH is cool. Unless he is willing to play WR ONLY and Van Jefferson does not end up in Orange, TG will not be a Vol IMO.

Had TG showed up t UTs camp on time as he was expected to, maybe he could have committed before Dormady. Him stalling, cost him his shot to play QB at UT IMO,
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I really don't care at this point. He could have looked like the best QB at the Opening and IMO he still would not be a take with us having 2 QBs already onboard. I don't see our coaches taking 3 QBs. Hoping for the 4-5* ATH is cool. Unless he is willing to play WR ONLY and Van Jefferson does not end up in Orange, TG will not be a Vol IMO.

Had TG showed up t UTs camp on time as he was expected to, maybe he could have committed before Dormady. Him stalling, cost him his shot to play QB at UT IMO,
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Are you always this ignorant? I avoid the recruiting forum for the most part, so yes, I'm seriously asking.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I really don't care at this point. He could have looked like the best QB at the Opening and IMO he still would not be a take with us having 2 QBs already onboard. I don't see our coaches taking 3 QBs. Hoping for the 4-5* ATH is cool. Unless he is willing to play WR ONLY and Van Jefferson does not end up in Orange, TG will not be a Vol IMO.

Had TG showed up t UTs camp on time as he was expected to, maybe he could have committed before Dormady. Him stalling, cost him his shot to play QB at UT IMO,
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He's always said he wasn't committing until later in the Fall so not sure what the bolded part even means. And seeing as how Butch and Co. are still recruiting him, I don't think him playing QB here is out of the question.
 
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GahLee said:
So…yes?

Jennings and Gibson could end up at other positions. Dormandy isn't a sure thing.

We have one QB on the roster beyond this year, why not take 3?
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Dobbs
Peterman
Dormady
Jennings


IMO, 2015 will be just fine. Add another QB in 2016. IF Jennings is moved very early after getting to campus, maybe take 2 in 2016.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
He's always said he wasn't committing until later in the Fall so not sure what the bolded part even means. And seeing as how Butch and Co. are still recruiting him, I don't think him playing QB here is out of the question.
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CBJ and company are still recruiting ALOT of kids they would not take today, or anytime. There are a lot of back up plans in recruiting. As I said, Van goes to OSU, MAYBE CBJ considers taking TG. Maybe not.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
He's always said he wasn't committing until later in the Fall so not sure what the bolded part even means. And seeing as how Butch and Co. are still recruiting him, I don't think him playing QB here is out of the question.
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It shouldn't be.

Dobbs has potential and Dormandy just missed an entire year of football.

If UT signs Jennings and Gibson, somebody is moving positions. They're both elite athletes. We are in no position to say no to that.
 
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GahLee said:
It shouldn't be.

Dobbs has potential and Dormandy just missed an entire year of football.

If UT signs Jennings and Gibson, somebody is moving positions. They're both elite athletes. We are in no position to say no to that.
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Some people don't seem to get this.
 
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GahLee said:
Peterman is a lost cause. If he's playing, we are in trouble. Jennings may not stick at QB and Dormandy is very raw.
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I doubt Peterman beats out Dobbs for the job in 2015. IMO he will be #2. I think QD & JJ ideally both RS in 2015 and IF injury were to force one into action, it would be Dormady, they just remove the RS. Going into 2016 you have Dobbs, Peterman, Dormady, Jennings, and I'm hoping for Austin Kendall. Kendall would RS in 2016.

IMO at QB we are just fine. Peterman may never really be in it to start if everyone else is healthy, but IMO he is all Vol and would be an asset IF injury forced him into action. Another year in the system and maybe he looks a lot better.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I really don't care at this point. He could have looked like the best QB at the Opening and IMO he still would not be a take with us having 2 QBs already onboard. I don't see our coaches taking 3 QBs. Hoping for the 4-5* ATH is cool. Unless he is willing to play WR ONLY and Van Jefferson does not end up in Orange, TG will not be a Vol IMO.

Had TG showed up t UTs camp on time as he was expected to, maybe he could have committed before Dormady. Him stalling, cost him his shot to play QB at UT IMO,
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The two so called QB's we have committed...

One didn't play at all his Junior year in high school and the second is more than likely a better safety prospect than qb.

Yeahhhh....feel real confident there.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
The two so called QB's we have committed...

One didn't play at all his Junior year in high school and the second is more than likely a better safety prospect than qb.

Yeahhhh....feel real confident there.
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Obviously the UT coaches do. They took their commitments at QB. :dunno:

Consider the worst case scenario IF the staff took 3QBs. What if JJ moves to S, TG moved to WR, QD did not progress because of the injury, and because you took 3 in 2015, you don't get any in 2016.

Then, you have QB issues.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Obviously the UT coaches do. They took their commitments at QB. :dunno:

Consider the worst case scenario IF the staff took 3QBs. What if JJ moves to S, TG moved to WR, QD did not progress because of the injury, and because you took 3 in 2015, you don't get any in 2016.

Then, you have QB issues.
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It's always better to be proactive than reactive.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Obviously the UT coaches do. They took their commitments at QB. :dunno:

Consider the worst case scenario IF the staff took 3QBs. What if JJ moves to S, TG moved to WR, QD did not progress because of the injury, and because you took 3 in 2015, you don't get any in 2016.

Then, you have QB issues.
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Agree with everything you said, but I think we continue building the relationship with Kendall
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Obviously the UT coaches do. They took their commitments at QB. :dunno:

Consider the worst case scenario IF the staff took 3QBs. What if JJ moves to S, TG moved to WR, QD did not progress because of the injury, and because you took 3 in 2015, you don't get any in 2016.

Then, you have QB issues.
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If I'm not mistaken, but QD is an EE and we'll have a better idea of JJ with his Senior Tape. So we'll know exactly what we have before the 2016 camps kick into gear. Meaning we'll be just fine even if we take 3 QBs.
 
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/rant ON

Prior to NSD, there is nothing...at all...deterministic about recruiting. To say TG is a take because of talent without regard to the intangibles, or to say that TG is not a take because of current commits or numbers or perceptions of the intangibles, is to show such a profound ignorance of what can and might happen between now and NSD, and it boggles my mind how stupid this whole thread has become.

I'm not one to call folks out...but let me break it down for you. If you a) 100% believe we will take TG because of talent, or b) 100% believe we won't take him due to numbers or existing commits...you are ignorant. Yes, I know I just pissed off many folks in this thread. I'm sorry, but its true. There are simply too many variables to make any of those absolute assertions, and even the coaching staff cannot make that call at this point. From their perspective he might be a take now and not in 15 minutes...and that might reverse next week...stuff changes. If Butch is talking to TG on the phone, he's recruiting him. Whether or not Butch accepts his commitment when and if offered, only Butch knows, and his feelings on it this minute may or may not be the same when and if it happens. Is that so #$%^# hard to see?!?

The only thing that can be said with absolute certainty is that TG is a talented ball player that appears to favor UT at the moment, and may or may not have a place here when the ink is dry. Could we please...please...please...drop the endless arguments and try to focus on real information as it becomes available. I for one enjoy reading new quotes and such, but the constant circular argument is the most infantile thing I have ever witnessed on a forum.

/rant OFF
 
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UTChicagoV said:
If I'm not mistaken, but QD is an EE and we'll have a better idea of JJ with his Senior Tape. So we'll know exactly what we have before the 2016 camps kick into gear. Meaning we'll be just fine even if we take 3 QBs. Would've thought your blown numbers guess would've kept you from making further guesses on numbers.
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I could miss 99% of the time and would still give an opinion. I'm not worried about being wrong. If I am, alright. Of course at times, I am right. :matrix:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I could miss 99% of the time and would still give an opinion. I'm not worried about being wrong. If I am, alright. Of course at times, I am right. :matrix:
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I'm messing with you. Better to have SOME idea than be totally blind to numbers. Appreciate the work you put in to get us something so early in the off-season.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Obviously the UT coaches do. They took their commitments at QB. :dunno:

Consider the worst case scenario IF the staff took 3QBs. What if JJ moves to S, TG moved to WR, QD did not progress because of the injury, and because you took 3 in 2015, you don't get any in 2016.

Then, you have QB issues.
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That's a worst case scenario for which there is still a workable plan. I think you get the best football players now, and worry 2016 next year. If anybody flops at QB in one year then there's no reason we can't get a 16' QB.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I was thinking the same thing, but that is OBVIOUSLY not what CBJ has been communicating to Gibson. So, it doesn't matter what your speculation or the all the writers for the services, happens to be. If CBJ is saying he's being recruited as a QB, still...there's more to it than what you and I can see, here.

I was surprised we were able to take more than 30 in last class. Butch Stones knows how to work it, so we'll just have to sit back and let him do it. After all, we have no choice in the matter.
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Do you know what CBJ is telling him? All we hear is what this kid tells others and it does not jive with what all of the other analysts are hearing or insiders are being told.

There are committed recruit who have stated that Tennessee coaches have communicated with them that they will be the only QBs signed in this class. That same information has been passed onto analysts and other siders.

The kid is a fantastic athlete, but he will not be signed as QB not tried out at QB by the Vols.
 
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A not-at-all-unlikely scenario is that next year, we only have 1 returning QB (would will be eligible for the draft if he has a big year in 2015). Consider that one of Jennings or Gibson could be moved by the end of the year and we're looking like we need 1-2 more QBs for 2016.
 
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