'15 JUCO RB Alvin Kamara (UT commit 6/21/14)

[jave36]

Why don't u people understand angles?

If Hurd is on the sideline running straight, the defender behind him coming more from the middle of the field who catches him has to run more distance, not less. The defender runs the hypotenus, if you want to get geometric.

 

[LynxVol]

Takes too long to calculate

That's not calculating an angle.

 

[ACvol3]

If Hurd is on the sideline running straight, the defender behind him coming more from the middle of the field who catches him has to run more distance, not less. The defender runs the hypotenus, if you want to get geometric.

I'm guessing you've never played football..

 

[jave36]

I'm guessing you've never played football..

Lol you have to play football to do 9th grade math?

 

[jave36]

Takes too long to calculate

Hurd = the 3cm, the defender = x. If x catches him, he ran faster. But I guess only playing one year of football means that math rules suddenly don't apply.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Examining it as a right triangle only works if they ran in perfectly straight lines.

 

[joelkthx]

You people. All "having the angle" means is that the defender is running toward the spot that will allow him to meet the RB. Running to where he will be (accurately) as opposed to running to where he currently is. Jave is technically correct on just the math formula part, but that's not what people are referring to when saying someone had the angle. "the angle" is based on the idea that when the defender began pursuing the angle, the RB had not yet passed him. IE - if a safety is 10 yards off the ball at the snap and sees the RB hitting the edge, the safety takes off to his calculated spot before the RB is passed him. If he does wait until he is further down the field, it doesn't work. Unless he is just simply faster

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I'm guessing you've never played football..

He never played Geometry either "hypotenuse"

Could not resist :salute:

 

[ACvol3]

Lol you have to play football to do 9th grade math?

It's not that simple during a play.

 

[ACvol3]

Examining it as a right triangle only works if they ran in perfectly straight lines.

And started from the same distance.

 

[Vol Revolver]

Hurd = the 3cm, the defender = x. If x catches him, he ran faster. But I guess only playing one year of football means that math rules suddenly don't apply.

Starting points are not equal. Depends on when and where x begins

 

[joelkthx]

Starting points are not equal. Depends on when and where x begins

there ya go. thats a better way of saying what I was trying to say above. The x may be on the hypotenuse, but if he is 5 yards off the line of scrimmage, he is likely halfway there already.

 

[SteelerVol]

Is this sh-t really happening?

 

[BlueHalo]

Lol you have to play football to do 9th grade math?

The problem isn't that he can't perform simple math. Obviously we all understand what you're saying.

Hurd stiff arms an OU linebacker, slowing him down slightly near the Tennessee 40 yard line.

Eventual tackler is at UT 44 yard line running full speed.

At this point in time Hurd is running almost East-West, and doesn't get north-south until fully out of the stiff arm move. When he does so at the 45 yard line, the defender is still running full speed at the 46.

The defender manages to catch him (barely) even though he had at minimum a 1 yard advantage on Hurd. I suspect if Hurd didn't lose his speed on the stiff arm he would have pulled away from the defender for a TD. He has excellent top end speed.

In your math scenario, 2 points meeting at an 'x' don't have directional changes, stiff arms, or the ability to maintain speed while diving ahead to catch the guy that just ran by you.

 

[jjay2518]

The problem isn't that he can't perform simple math. Obviously we all understand what you're saying.

Hurd stiff arms an OU linebacker, slowing him down slightly near the Tennessee 40 yard line.

Eventual tackler is at UT 44 yard line running full speed.

At this point in time Hurd is running almost East-West, and doesn't get north-south until fully out of the stiff arm move. When he does so at the 45 yard line, the defender is still running full speed at the 46.

The defender manages to catch him (barely) even though he had at minimum a 1 yard advantage on Hurd. I suspect if Hurd didn't lose his speed on the stiff arm he would have pulled away from the defender for a TD. He has excellent top end speed.

In your math scenario, 2 points meeting at an 'x' don't have directional changes, stiff arms, or the ability to maintain speed while diving ahead to catch the guy that just ran by you.

It's sad that you even had to do this, but all of this is right.

 

[BigOrangeD]

The problem isn't that he can't perform simple math. Obviously we all understand what you're saying.

Hurd stiff arms an OU linebacker, slowing him down slightly near the Tennessee 40 yard line.

Eventual tackler is at UT 44 yard line running full speed.

At this point in time Hurd is running almost East-West, and doesn't get north-south until fully out of the stiff arm move. When he does so at the 45 yard line, the defender is still running full speed at the 46.

The defender manages to catch him (barely) even though he had at minimum a 1 yard advantage on Hurd. I suspect if Hurd didn't lose his speed on the stiff arm he would have pulled away from the defender for a TD. He has excellent top end speed.

In your math scenario, 2 points meeting at an 'x' don't have directional changes, stiff arms, or the ability to maintain speed while diving ahead to catch the guy that just ran by you.

:good!:
I said this Sunday. Why want you people listen to me? A picture is worth a 1000 words I guess.

 

[RikidyBones]

Is this sh-t really happening?

Yes. Yes it is. :no:

 

[Catbone]

wtf guys

 

[engineerVOL]

now that all that mess it out of our system...

See what happens when Hurd gets a seam? Blocked beautifully, Thomas for to the second level and sealed off the linebacker and off he goes.

 

[engineerVOL]

Listening to Doug Matthews on the radio this afternoon fired me up about Hurd. SAid he's do technically sound beyond his years. Said he got blown up by Utah State defender on first blitz and from then on he figured it all out. Also said Freshmen don't normLly protect the ball as well as him or fall dorward without fail.

 

[VolGee4]

The thing that I have noticed that Hurd needs to work on is his vision and/or reading blocks. On the screen deep in our territory, he had a lot of open space. Our WR was blocking with inside position, and Hurd cut outside. From my vantage point, the middle of the field was wide open. He may have gone the distance. His speed is fine, and this will improve as he plays more.

 

[nashvol1]

For those questioning Hurd, you probably would be negative after a 10 and 2 season. He is getting the technical aspects down and the natural ability will begin to take over. Let's appreciate the good. He is good.

 

[ionaVOL]

SUMMARY:

That boy is plenty fast enough and we are going to see A LOT more runs like that over the next few years, so get used to it.

 

[Nashvegas31]

The problem isn't that he can't perform simple math. Obviously we all understand what you're saying.

Hurd stiff arms an OU linebacker, slowing him down slightly near the Tennessee 40 yard line.

Eventual tackler is at UT 44 yard line running full speed.

At this point in time Hurd is running almost East-West, and doesn't get north-south until fully out of the stiff arm move. When he does so at the 45 yard line, the defender is still running full speed at the 46.

The defender manages to catch him (barely) even though he had at minimum a 1 yard advantage on Hurd. I suspect if Hurd didn't lose his speed on the stiff arm he would have pulled away from the defender for a TD. He has excellent top end speed.

In your math scenario, 2 points meeting at an 'x' don't have directional changes, stiff arms, or the ability to maintain speed while diving ahead to catch the guy that just ran by you.

Could you imagine getting hit head on by this beast going that fast?

 

[engineerVOL]

The thing that I have noticed that Hurd needs to work on is his vision and/or reading blocks. On the screen deep in our territory, he had a lot of open space. Our WR was blocking with inside position, and Hurd cut outside. From my vantage point, the middle of the field was wide open. He may have gone the distance. His speed is fine, and this will improve as he plays more.

It always looks that way from up above. I always sit in the the end zone seats at Tennessee games because I like to see the running lanes. I swear people around me look at me funny when I get stand up as the play develops because from that vantage point you can see it all happen. You also see wide open receivers missed. It's aggravating watching from that angle, it's especially got to be aggravating to be a coordinator up in the box knowing what should be open.