'15 JUCO WR Camion Patrick

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LebanonVolunteer said:
1 credit short is all? Alot of people on here made it seem like he had went to class 3 days in the last 2 years.
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LMAO exactly

Im actually upset at myself for believing these VNers who were close to the situation

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My Ignore list grows bigger by the day :zeitung_lesen:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
1 credit short is all? Alot of people on here made it seem like he had went to class 3 days in the last 2 years. Either there is alot more to the story, or something is very off here.
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If he's 1 credit short that means he failed 3 classes last year and went to credit recovery to make up at least one of those classes, no telling how many classes he failed his Fr. and So. years. Depending on the classes he did fail its honna be hard for him to qualify for college out of HS, IMO
 
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jmoore_21 said:
SIAP, this was posted on CoachT.com

"According to his transcript from Lenoir City he was only 1 credit shy of being eligible to play for them . He made that credit up over the summer through Knox Countiy's credit recovery program, which is an online course software called E=Learning. And that program is used county wide for any student that needs to retake a course. The reason he is at West and not Lenoir City is because his guardianship changed from his uncle who was fired at Lenoir City, to his real dad who lives 2 blocks from West and where he has 2 brothers that have played for the last 2 years. He could play for Lenoir City if he wanted to pay tuition and drive to Lenoir City everyday. He never did live in their zone, he could play for them because his guardian at the time was employed there.

So, here is where it stands. Academically according to TSSAA guidelines he is going to be eligible. He did have a legal change of guardian to his real dad who does actually lives in the West zone. So, those things are working in his favor. There is one more hurdle to clear. Lenoir City has to write a letter stating that he did not transfer solely for athletics. Wether they are willing to do that remains to be seen. If they do then the decision on his eligiblity falls right in the lap of the TSSAA executive director, Bernard Childress. We shall see."
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Wow, and I thought he was just hopeless after what people had been saying. Hope he gets cleared and has an awesome senior season.
 
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How does West's ol and qb situation look? Experienced? Could have a big impact on his season and his rating.
 
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colvol said:
Actually I have some info on this, he for some reason got taken out of drivers ed (Don't know if he thought he was moving or what) but one of my friends actually took his spot in drivers ed and he couldn't get back in. Don't think he failed though.
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friend is a negavol, imo.
 
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It's more than 1 credit or class. I don't see Patrick making it in. Maybe he can get in at Auburn with a fake transcript.

Tennessee feels very good about what have at receiver in Josh Smith and Paul Harris, (with Camion Patrick appearing to have significant grade issues)
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-Hubbs, War Room
 
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StoVol said:
Cool, thx
Edit: found something on West, sounds like they are stacked already, add Patrick and they are a threat to win state.

Expectations couldn't be any higher for West » Knoxville News Sentinel
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Terrance Hall just got cleared to play for West. He is Lenior City's best wide receiver. He will play against Fulton. Camion will most likely play week 2 against Maryville. Zeller is going to be pretty pissed but West does not need any written permission from LC for Camion to play from what I know.
 
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steino said:
Terrance Hall just got cleared to play for West. He is Lenior City's best wide receiver. He will play against Fulton. Camion will most likely play week 2 against Maryville. Zeller is going to be pretty pissed but West does not need any written permission from LC for Camion to play from what I know.
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Terrance Hall went too!?! That's a hit for Football and Basketball.
 
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steino said:
Terrance Hall just got cleared to play for West. He is Lenior City's best wide receiver. He will play against Fulton. Camion will most likely play week 2 against Maryville. Zeller is going to be pretty pissed but West does not need any written permission from LC for Camion to play from what I know.
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Hadn't heard about Hall. That is 2 huge blows to a Lenoir City team that had a chance to make it to the State this year. They still are very talented but losing 2 of the best athletes on their team will be difficult to overcome. Sophomore Jaylen Woods is probably the best athlete of all.
 
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steino said:
Camion will most likely play week 2 against Maryville. Zeller is going to be pretty pissed but West does not need any written permission from LC for Camion to play from what I know.
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Didn't want to disagree earlier, until I could find a public source, but LC does have to give written permission. According to TSSAA spokesman Matthew Gillespie:

"We're waiting on two things: that this is the first time the student has moved from a guardian to a parent and courth-ordered custody that states the father has custody and a letter from the previous school (Lenoir City) stating (the transfer) was not for athletic or disciplinary reasons. So we're waiting on both of those pieces of information. Until we get that, he's only eligible on the JV (junior varsity) level. Depending on what we get — if it meets the requirements — he could potentially be ruled eligible. But we haven't received anything yet as of (Wednesday)."

You can find more info at prepxtra.com.
 
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Hard to imagine lc withholding the letter if the reasons for transfer were valid.
 
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StoVol said:
Hard to imagine lc withholding the letter if the reasons for transfer were valid.
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To my knowledge, LC is dragging their feet, and I don't blame them. There is plenty of animosity there, on both sides. Plus, West and LC are in the same district, and I'm sure they don't want to play against him.
 
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tommotornado said:
To my knowledge, LC is dragging their feet, and I don't blame them. There is plenty of animosity there, on both sides. Plus, West and LC are in the same district, and I'm sure they don't want to play against him.
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Was thinking that was a possibility but you'd think someone with a clear head over there would see the pr ramifications if it were revealed a legitimate transfer process was stalled due to animosity about a star player moving to a school within their district.
 
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#845
I think we should cut ties here. He is trouble in the classroom and if you see his twitter you see how he is on there. As an alum, I question how good a job he will do representing out school. He is a good talent, but very questionable charachter.
 
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StoVol said:
Was thinking that was a possibility but you'd think someone with a clear head over there would see the pr ramifications if it were revealed a legitimate transfer process was stalled due to animosity about a star player moving to a school within their district.
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Most of that animosity is directed at the kid for failing to meet his eligibility requirements while he was enrolled at LC, specifically over the summer. He was supposed to play for LC, up until the first week of August, when Mike Zeller made the announcement that he wouldn't be playing for LC. A week later, it was announced that he had enrolled at West.

He has a legitimate reason for transferring (father), but the problem here is that he left LC on very bad terms (grades), and I just don't know if they are willing to write that letter.
 
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tommotornado said:
Most of that animosity is directed at the kid for failing to meet his eligibility requirements while he was enrolled at LC, specifically over the summer. He was supposed to play for LC, up until the first week of August, when Mike Zeller made the announcement that he wouldn't be playing for LC. A week later, it was announced that he had enrolled at West.

He has a legitimate reason for transferring (father), but the problem here is that he left LC on very bad terms (grades), and I just don't know if they are willing to write that letter.
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Bad grades is not a legitimate reason tho, schools would be glad to have horrible students transfer. So if it's left to the reason " bad terms" that would make lc look petty. Not sure what's going on here but it doesn't seem wise to drag your feet on this. I'm assuming this letter has nothing to do with transferring academically tho, just releasing him athletically. If they held up a transfer for academic reasons they would be charged with disrupting a child's education.
 
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StoVol said:
Bad grades is not a legitimate reason tho, schools would be glad to have horrible students transfer. So if it's left to the reason " bad terms" that would make lc look petty. Not sure what's going on here but it doesn't seem wise to drag your feet on this. I'm assuming this letter has nothing to do with transferring academically tho, just releasing him athletically. If they held up a transfer for academic reasons they would be charged with disrupting a child's education.
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Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't blame LC at all for playing it this way. I agree, this has a lot more to do with feeling jilted than an academic issue. I wonder if it would have made a difference had he transferred to a school in another district.
 
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tommotornado said:
Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't blame LC at all for playing it this way. I agree, this has a lot more to do with feeling jilted than an academic issue. I wonder if it would have made a difference had he transferred to a school in another district.
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I just researched it a little more. Apparently they need two things. Evidence by a court order of change of guardianship. That lc would have nothing to do with. secondly the tssaa needs a letter from lc stating that the transfer was not due to athletic or disciplinary reasons. So lc prob couldn't claim athletic reasons due to change of guardian and hence need to move. But there could be something to the disciplinary angle and hence the holdup. Of course it could be that it takes forever to get anything done when a government agency is involved.
 
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StoVol said:
I just researched it a little more. Apparently they need two things. Evidence by a court order of change of guardianship. That lc would have nothing to do with. secondly the tssaa needs a letter from lc stating that the transfer was not due to athletic or disciplinary reasons. So lc prob couldn't claim athletic reasons due to change of guardian and hence need to move. But there could be something to the disciplinary angle and hence the holdup. Of course it could be that it takes forever to get anything done when a government agency is involved.
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From what I understand, West has everything ready to submit, except for a letter from LC. Who knows. I guess time will tell.
 
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