'15 NC RB Bryce Love

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#501
StlCardinals2618 said:
Pickett is irrelevant. He got beat out at Maryland and he's more than likely not going to take snaps from another rb. No one knows how Paulk will be, and Kamara is a juco.

If numbers are really a problem, a running back will leave that couldn't get snaps.
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Perfect for a 6th string RB.
 
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chavisut said:
Elite programs have players transfer out for PT elsewhere.
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I understand there will always be a transfer here or there. Over recruiting a position and stacking up talent just to watch it sit the bench is a recipe for forcing transfers. I'd rather see the coaches spread the scholarships out so the time invested into these kids pays off vs watching them pack up their stuff and go play elsewhere.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
2-3 RBs a year get the majority of the carries. Especially when you're signing top caliber RBs.

2014
Lane
Hurd
DY
Scott
Paulk
Pickett WO

2015
Hurd SO
Scott SO
Paulk RSFR
Kamara JR
Reid TFR
Pickett WO

2016
Hurd JR
Scott JR
Paulk RSSO
Kamara SR
Reid RSFR
"insert 2016 signee" TFR
"insert 2016 signee" TFR

2017
Hurd SR
Scott SR
Paulk RSJR
Reid RSSO
2016 RSFR
2016 RSFR
"insert 2017 signee" TFR
"insert 2017 signee" TFR

Spread them out, and things will be just fine.
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In a great class, you will lose at least 10% of your players from attrition. All the running backs UT signed aren't going to be studs, it's not realistic.

At one point, Dooley's rb stable was Neal, Lane, Hill, Young, Somerset, and Smith. Rb was a huge concern even though we had 6 bodies.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
In a great class, you will lose at least 10% of your players from attrition. All the running backs UT signed aren't going to be studs, it's not realistic.

At one point, Dooley's rb stable was Neal, Lane, Hill, Young, Somerset, and Smith. Rb was a huge concern even though we had 6 bodies.
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If you have 5-6 capable RBs, you have 2-3 more than you will probably need in any given season. I love seeing talented depth on UTs roster. I just understand that when that talent gets too deep and talented kids are just waiting their turn, it tends to have them deciding to take that talent elsewhere vs sit on the bench and wait. Give me 3 very talented backs and I'll take my chances with a couple more "role type" players for depth. JMO
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If you have 5-6 capable RBs, you have 2-3 more than you will probably need in any given season. I love seeing talented depth on UTs roster. I just understand that when that talent gets too deep and talented kids are just waiting their turn, it tends to have them deciding to take that talent elsewhere vs sit on the bench and wait. Give me 3 very talented backs and I'll take my chances with a couple more "role type" players for depth. JMO
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We have no idea how any of the runningbacks will turn out. Remember everyone hyping up Tom Smith because he was rated the number 1 downhill runner?

We haven't had a good rb since Hardesty, we can't afford to be wrong if we signed one a year
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
In a great class, you will lose at least 10% of your players from attrition. All the running backs UT signed aren't going to be studs, it's not realistic.

At one point, Dooley's rb stable was Neal, Lane, Hill, Young, Somerset, and Smith. Rb was a huge concern even though we had 6 bodies.
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Dooley recruiting vs. CBJ recruiting. Not comparable.

Seems to me an extra body on either line, at CB, or at LB is much more important than a 6th RB.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
We have no idea how any of the runningbacks will turn out. Remember everyone hyping up Tom Smith because he was rated the number 1 downhill runner?

We haven't had a good rb since Hardesty, we can't afford to be wrong if we signed one a year
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I've never said sign 1 a year. I just see absolutely no reason to sign 3 in back to back classes. 6 RBs at some schools is the whole RB depth chart on the roster. Do the coaches plan to not take any RBs in 2016 or 2017? I'm guessing they will. Even 5 RBs in just 2 classes is a lot of backs.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Dooley recruiting vs. CBJ recruiting. Not comparable.

Seems to me an extra body on either line, at CB, or at LB is much more important than a 6th RB.
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It's not a 6th rb. Take out Lane and you have 0 runningbacks with experience. The starting runningbacks next year are completely unknown. No one knows how Kamara, Hurd, Scott, or Paulk will do. No one knows if Kamara or Reid stay committed.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I've never said sign 1 a year. I just see absolutely no reason to sign 3 in back to back classes. 6 RBs at some schools is the whole RB depth chart on the roster. Do the coaches plan to not take any RBs in 2016 or 2017? I'm guessing they will. Even 5 RBs in just 2 classes is a lot of backs.
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They will take one, maybe 2 if it's the right guy next year. You can never have too many good runningbacks. This is how UGA and Bama recruit
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
It's not a 6th rb. Take out Lane and you have 0 runningbacks with experience. The starting runningbacks next year are completely unknown. No one knows how Kamara, Hurd, Scott, or Paulk will do. No one knows if Kamara or Reid stay committed.
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The problem with that mindset is you can't just keep stacking players at the same position because "you don't know". At some point the coaches have to trust their evals and their ability to coach the kids they have signed. We have Lane and DY for 2014 who have seen a lot of snaps. In 2015 we will have Lane and probably Scott who have seen SEC action. In 2016 you will have at least 3 RBs who have taken SEC snaps.

Making sure your 5th or 6th RB has 4 *'s by their name to me is just silly. If he is that good, he won't be sitting around and waiting his turn for long.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
2-3 RBs a year get the majority of the carries. Especially when you're signing top caliber RBs.

2014
Lane
Hurd
DY
Scott
Paulk
Pickett WO

2015
Hurd SO
Scott SO
Paulk RSFR
Kamara JR
Reid TFR
Pickett WO

2016
Hurd JR
Scott JR
Paulk RSSO
Kamara SR
Reid RSFR
"insert 2016 signee" TFR
"insert 2016 signee" TFR

2017
Hurd SR
Scott SR
Paulk RSJR
Reid RSSO
2016 RSFR
2016 RSFR
"insert 2017 signee" TFR
"insert 2017 signee" TFR

Spread them out, and things will be just fine.
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Kamara is coming in a sophmore.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
It's not a 6th rb. Take out Lane and you have 0 runningbacks with experience. The starting runningbacks next year are completely unknown. No one knows how Kamara, Hurd, Scott, or Paulk will do. No one knows if Kamara or Reid stay committed.
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Not knowing is less concerning when the guys you've signed were all highly recruited. Neal and Lane were the only RBs Dooley signed with legit SEC offers.

I also don't remember UGA or Bama signing back to back 3 RB classes. I'd rather take my extra bodies on linemen since they are more difficult to evaluate and develop.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
They will take one, maybe 2 if it's the right guy next year. You can never have too many good runningbacks. This is how UGA and Bama recruit
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Looking at bama and its takes at RB:

2009- they took 2
2010- they took 1
2011- they took 2
2012- they took 3
2013- they took 4
2014- they took 1(he may not play RB)
2015- so far they took 1.

Now I'm not sure how many of these takes played RB or are still at bama(Kamara we know is 1 for sure).

UGA:
2015- so far they have not taken 1.
2014- they took 2
2013- they took 1
2012- they took 2
2011- they took 1
2010- they took 1
2009- they took 1
 
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JAllen18 said:
Looks like were signing a class full of 25
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24 is the hard number we are up against this year unless you count greyshirts, etc. Some massaging of the numbers would have to take place to get in 24. Anyone know how many EE we can take in?
 
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DaddyChad said:
24 is the hard number we are up against this year unless you count greyshirts, etc. Some massaging of the numbers would have to take place to get in 24. Anyone know how many EE we can take in?
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GFW mentioned he overheard CSS tell Austin Clark on his last visit their plan was to try and get 11 EEs this year.
 
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#517
I think it is important to understand CBJ's endless rhetoric on competition. Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of having a proven stable of elite running backs spread across the classes. Thus, Butch will stack the deck as much as possible to allow for as much quality competition. I have never met the man, but even I can hear him preaching competition. If you can't beat out the best player, you have a choice to make; wait for an injury (which needs to be considered realistically), wait for the best player to graduate/leave for NFL, bide your time indefinitely, or go somewhere you can get playing time.

If he's collecting competitors, and if the cream of the crop rise up, I don't think it hurts anyone to stack the deck, even if it means players leave.
 
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#518
I know the numbers are tight, but I think Butch still wants Love bad. CBJ is going to make Tennessee a winner way or another. That may mean cutting some ties to make room for other more talented recruits. This years class will be top five with the guys we have and the rest of these bada** players we are in on. The Rise Is On! It's even better that some of these other schools fans don't see us coming yet. I can't wait to be sitting there watching games again, with a sly little grin, as we are beating the Tide arce again. Then, as the cameras flash to Saban and Kiffin. They cry a big tidy bowl river that carries their unrighteous souls back to the Hell that is Alabama. Yes, I'm bored...lol
 
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What you guys are not understanding that we are jun much better shape at RB than we are across the board at other positions. We are still not as talented and thin in the secondary, at LB, DE, and on the OL. The number of players to sign is going to get smaller and smaller from here on. Balance is a key.
 
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Tux said:
What you guys are not understanding that we are jun much better shape at RB than we are across the board at other positions. We are still not as talented and thin in the secondary, at LB, DE, and on the OL. The number of players to sign is going to get smaller and smaller from here on. Balance is a key.
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I'd guess it will be tougher and tougher for the coaches just to drop kids right and left when it's their recruits filling the roster. We'll see what happens. I know everyone seems to think that all SEC schools just process however many it takes to get to take the max each year, that's just not accurate. If you look at the last 4 years or so, about half the schools in the SEC each year took less than 25. That tells me not all schools have the mindset of "drop whoever you need to so you can sign more new unknowns".
 
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#523
LebanonVolunteer said:
Looking at bama and its takes at RB:

2009- they took 2
2010- they took 1
2011- they took 2
2012- they took 3
2013- they took 4
2014- they took 1(he may not play RB)
2015- so far they took 1.

Now I'm not sure how many of these takes played RB or are still at bama(Kamara we know is 1 for sure).

UGA:
2015- so far they have not taken 1.
2014- they took 2
2013- they took 1
2012- they took 2
2011- they took 1
2010- they took 1
2009- they took 1
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UGA took 2 in 2013 also. So they have taken 6 runningbacks in 3 years.

Bama took 6 in two years and now Bama is loaded at runningbacks and has had the best runningback core for a while.

So both teams have taken 6 or more and have the best depth at runningback in college football.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I'd guess it will be tougher and tougher for the coaches just to drop kids right and left when it's their recruits filling the roster. We'll see what happens. I know everyone seems to think that all SEC schools just process however many it takes to get to take the max each year, that's just not accurate. If you look at the last 4 years or so, about half the schools in the SEC each year took less than 25. That tells me not all schools have the mindset of "drop whoever you need to so you can sign more new unknowns".
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Those schools aren't in the process of purging a roster to bring in better talent like we are, either.
 
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Tux said:
What you guys are not understanding that we are jun much better shape at RB than we are across the board at other positions. We are still not as talented and thin in the secondary, at LB, DE, and on the OL. The number of players to sign is going to get smaller and smaller from here on. Balance is a key.
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We are? Based on what, preseason hype? Remember davonte borque being a starter at the beginning of the year? I wonder if people would say we have great depth if we signed Ty Isaac or Derrick Green
 
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