'15 TN ATH Nathan Cottrell

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I'd be happy if we got this kid...if he's the victim of our numbers game,he's the type that will be a thorn in our side at another SEC school...that being said, Reid,Love et al are talents you can't randomly pass over...trust in Butch's evaluation and live with it I will.
 
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butchna said:
I'd be happy if we got this kid...if he's the victim of our numbers game,he's the type that will be a thorn in our side at another SEC school...that being said, Reid,Love et al are talents you can't randomly pass over...trust in Butch's evaluation and live with it I will.
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I agree. After watching Reid's highlight earlier this week I was really impressed. Hes big,fast and just a tough runner. I think hes the real deal as well. UT should pull out all stops to get him. It be great to get several of these guys,if they dont work out at RB then move them to LB or DB.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Willy Wonka meme is one of the best meme's, IMO. This is my personal favorite...


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It's my favorite Wonka as well. I have it saved on my computer, lol.

My favorite Decreaux is the following:

The epicness is pretty far north of 10, IMO
 

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nicksjuzunk said:
Also, to the poster who thinks he is going to be a top 150 player, Rashaan Gaulden was an "unknown" before his senior season, having missed his junior season for a transfer. His season was as good as it possibly could have been, and some analysts said that he had 5* talent, but he still did not climb into the top 150.

No disrespect is meant when people say he MAY end up a 3 star. To climb to 4* status would be almost unheard of, and a 3* rating is respectable and most likely reasonable.
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Gaulden never ran a 4.35 laser timed 40. He didn't put up a 132.72 SPARQ. The recruiting services put a lot of stock on what recruits do at their camps. If they don't move him up based on him dominating their camps. Then why would recruits go camp for them? If he keeps dominating this summer he will blow up.

My point was to say the "experts" on here that said "he's from E.TN", or "he's white", or "he's not a D1 player". Would change their opinion if he blew up, to "we should have been on this kid from our backyard the whole time". :hi:
 
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Why is every Knoxville recruits thread the same? Yeah, the kid put up a good SPARQ score.... tell him to join the track team. He wont be a 4*. Numbers arent everything. SPARQ doesnt test football IQ, breaking tackles, blocking, play recognition and a lot of other variables. Most of the Nike events put up inaccurate numbers anyways.... esp the vertical. Theres also the question of could he carry a full workload. Why was he getting a handful of carries per game?

This kid just reminds me of Daryl Rollins-Davis from Knoxville of last year. DRD put up a 111.something SPARQ (which is also high). DRD had 140 carries for 1,990 yards (14.2 average) and 39 TDs as a SR. As a JR he has 215 carries for 2,402 yards (11.2 average) and 31 TDs. Ended up with 12 offers from smaller schools and signed with Arkansas St. Ended up a 5.2 2*.

Now I'm not saying Cottrell isnt a good player. Just saying you shouldnt live and die by SPARQ numbers and stats. He wont end up a 4* because these recruiting sites wont boost him that high just because of test results and big stats. Tons of kids put up huge stats.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
Why is every Knoxville recruits thread the same? Yeah, the kid put up a good SPARQ score.... tell him to join the track team. He wont be a 4*. Numbers arent everything. SPARQ doesnt test football IQ, breaking tackles, blocking, play recognition and a lot of other variables. Most of the Nike events put up inaccurate numbers anyways.... esp the vertical. Theres also the question of could he carry a full workload. Why was he getting a handful of carries per game?

This kid just reminds me of Daryl Rollins-Davis from Knoxville of last year. DRD put up a 111.something SPARQ (which is also high). DRD had 140 carries for 1,990 yards (14.2 average) and 39 TDs as a SR. As a JR he has 215 carries for 2,402 yards (11.2 average) and 31 TDs. Ended up with 12 offers from smaller schools and signed with Arkansas St. Ended up a 5.2 2*.

Now I'm not saying Cottrell isnt a good player. Just saying you shouldnt live and die by SPARQ numbers and stats. He wont end up a 4* because these recruiting sites wont boost him that high just because of test results and big stats. Tons of kids put up huge stats.
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OMG.. Did he run the fastest 40 in the country? Plus his SPARQ was 26 points lower which is a lot. No tons of kids don't put up these kinds of numbers. Can you name 10 that are even in the ballpark?
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
Why is every Knoxville recruits thread the same? Yeah, the kid put up a good SPARQ score.... tell him to join the track team. He wont be a 4*. Numbers arent everything. SPARQ doesnt test football IQ, breaking tackles, blocking, play recognition and a lot of other variables. Most of the Nike events put up inaccurate numbers anyways.... esp the vertical. Theres also the question of could he carry a full workload. Why was he getting a handful of carries per game?

This kid just reminds me of Daryl Rollins-Davis from Knoxville of last year. DRD put up a 111.something SPARQ (which is also high). DRD had 140 carries for 1,990 yards (14.2 average) and 39 TDs as a SR. As a JR he has 215 carries for 2,402 yards (11.2 average) and 31 TDs. Ended up with 12 offers from smaller schools and signed with Arkansas St. Ended up a 5.2 2*.

Now I'm not saying Cottrell isnt a good player. Just saying you shouldnt live and die by SPARQ numbers and stats. He wont end up a 4* because these recruiting sites wont boost him that high just because of test results and big stats. Tons of kids put up huge stats.
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It's pretty simple if Cottrell gets an SEC offer he will immediately be bumped to 4* if he doesn't he will stay a 2* or maybe 3*. I guarantee you recruiters pay attention to anyone that can run a legit 4.35. Will be interesting to see how he does this fall. Cottrell is bigger and faster then Rollins and he has the frame to ad more weight.
 
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GLDunlap said:
It's pretty simple if Cottrell gets an SEC offer he will immediately be bumped to 4* if he doesn't he will stay a 2* or maybe 3*. I guarantee you recruiters pay attention to anyone that can run a legit 4.35. Will be interesting to see how he does this fall. Cottrell is bigger and faster then Rollins and he has the frame to ad more weight.
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This. Only a handful of people in the world can match that 40. HERE are the fastest players at this years combine. He would be fourth fastest, and is only a 17 year old jr. in h.s.. HERE is a list of the top 40's every year they have used lasers. Could we not use speed like that?
 
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localvol said:
This. Only a handful of people in the world can match that 40. HERE are the fastest players at this years combine. He would be fourth fastest, and is only a 17 year old jr. in h.s.. HERE is a list of the top 40's every year they have used lasers. Could we not use speed like that?
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How was his 40 timed? Most likely it is inflated, as usual. What's more likely, a kid that runs the 4th fastest when compared to NFL numbers and not being recruited by a major program or skewed numbers?

I am not saying he isn't most likely very fast or very skilled at running the 40 atleast, but that isn't the only factor.

Let it play out before you get in an uproar about it. It is very early in recruiting.
 
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All_Vol said:
How was his 40 timed? Most likely it is inflated, as usual. What's more likely, a kid that runs the 4th fastest when compared to NFL numbers and not being recruited by a major program or skewed numbers?

I am not saying he isn't most likely very fast or very skilled at running the 40 atleast, but that isn't the only factor.

Let it play out before you get in an uproar about it. It is very early in recruiting.
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Laser timed. Same system that is used at the combine.
 
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He has the best 40 in the country for 15. You are right it is early in recruiting, and I think this kid has just been overlooked. Lets see what happens after the summer camps. If he keeps putting up times like that, he will blow up.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
Why is every Knoxville recruits thread the same? Yeah, the kid put up a good SPARQ score.... tell him to join the track team. He wont be a 4*. Numbers arent everything. SPARQ doesnt test football IQ, breaking tackles, blocking, play recognition and a lot of other variables. Most of the Nike events put up inaccurate numbers anyways.... esp the vertical. Theres also the question of could he carry a full workload. Why was he getting a handful of carries per game?

This kid just reminds me of Daryl Rollins-Davis from Knoxville of last year. DRD put up a 111.something SPARQ (which is also high). DRD had 140 carries for 1,990 yards (14.2 average) and 39 TDs as a SR. As a JR he has 215 carries for 2,402 yards (11.2 average) and 31 TDs. Ended up with 12 offers from smaller schools and signed with Arkansas St. Ended up a 5.2 2*.

Now I'm not saying Cottrell isnt a good player. Just saying you shouldnt live and die by SPARQ numbers and stats. He wont end up a 4* because these recruiting sites wont boost him that high just because of test results and big stats. Tons of kids put up huge stats.
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Because there is always someone that knows them personally that gets on here claiming they are the next Randall Cobb. They can't be bias.
 
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All_Vol said:
How was his 40 timed? Most likely it is inflated, as usual. What's more likely, a kid that runs the 4th fastest when compared to NFL numbers and not being recruited by a major program or skewed numbers?

I am not saying he isn't most likely very fast or very skilled at running the 40 atleast, but that isn't the only factor.

Let it play out before you get in an uproar about it. It is very early in recruiting.
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I say we should all get in an uproar. tifwiw

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All_Vol said:
How was his 40 timed? Most likely it is inflated, as usual. What's more likely, a kid that runs the 4th fastest when compared to NFL numbers and not being recruited by a major program or skewed numbers?
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Lol... It's the same way thousands of other kids at the nike camps are timed... Which still makes him faster than any other kid UT is recruiting. His numbers are absolutely ridiculous... If this was a kid in GA I don't think anyone would be questioning.

I personally don't think he is a take at RB. Slot...possibly. I just wish West would use him in the passing game more...but no one can deny his speed.
 
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Nathan Cottrell (West, 5-11, 185, running back): With LSU and Cincinnati showing strong interest of late, Cottrell is ready to erupt onto the recruiting scene. Winning the Nike SPARQ Combine in Atlanta in March (he ranked first among 1,767 competitors) should work wonders for Cottrell. He ran a 4.35 in the 40-yard dash and recorded a 40.8-inch vertical. Last season, he rushed for 1,912 yards and 22 touchdowns as a junior, averaging 14.5 yards per carry in Class 5A football for state runner-up West. His Hudl: Junior Year 2013-2014
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-Jesse Smithey, KnoxNews.
 
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I wonder why LSU would be interested? I mean according to some this kid is overrated and doesn't play the best competition in the country. Therefore he must not be that good.
 
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