'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

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Probably_in_Class said:
Am I the only one that thinks everyone is WAY overblowing the bowl practices? These guys practice constantly at different periods through the year, but a small set of bowl practices is somehow supposed to alter the trajectory of these guys' careers? Some people make it seem like the whole OL will suddenly "get it" because of a few bowl practices. Also, it's great if Dormady makes it in for bowl practice, but it's barely, if at all, different from him just starting with spring practice in my opinion.
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During the year, you have very little time to "get better." Practices are devoted to scheming and game planning for the opponent.

With 15 extra days, the first 10 will be devoted to getting better. The last 5 will be game plan for Iowa.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks everyone is WAY overblowing the bowl practices? These guys practice constantly at different periods through the year, but a small set of bowl practices is somehow supposed to alter the trajectory of these guys' careers? Some people make it seem like the whole OL will suddenly "get it" because of a few bowl practices. Also, it's great if Dormady makes it in for bowl practice, but it's barely, if at all, different from him just starting with spring practice in my opinion.
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That's almost an entire season of practice, and it's not like game week practice where coaches have to focus mostly on the 1s, they can give coaching to the redshirt guys and reserves. Heard jim Chaney on the radio today say that these practices are almost as good as an entire spring, where they get 20 something practices. Heard Dan Mullen say there's no way they have the year they had without the Liberty Bowl practices last year. It's a pretty big deal.
 
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ACvol3 said:
Yeah I'm wondering if our coaches are wanting dual threat qbs across the board for this offense.
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I see Jones being like Winston in that he was rated a DT QB but doesn't like to run. Sheriron Jones prefers to sit in the pocket and throw it all over the field. Dormady has mobility as well. Betting the Coach's don't want their QB running it 10-15 times a game. Doesn't enhance the QB's chance of getting through a full season in the SEC. Dormady isnt like Worley, Ainge or Peyton. He has good mobility but when he is his entire HS team you don't want him running around and taking hits. And as it's been said about S.Jones he prefers not to run.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
He had a very good yr, especially considering he had no help and turned I think a two win team the yr before without him to I believe a ten win team. He made that team and will be a very good QB when he actually has some help around him.
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In addition, he missed his jr. year with an injury. He improved as the season progressed. Very glad he is here.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks everyone is WAY overblowing the bowl practices? These guys practice constantly at different periods through the year, but a small set of bowl practices is somehow supposed to alter the trajectory of these guys' careers? Some people make it seem like the whole OL will suddenly "get it" because of a few bowl practices. Also, it's great if Dormady makes it in for bowl practice, but it's barely, if at all, different from him just starting with spring practice in my opinion.
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The "practice is more important than the game itself " crowd will not be pleased with your post.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
QD can run though so I don't understand this talk. I bet SJ is not much faster.
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Exactly. Some just don't understand that. I guarantee his Coach(Dad) didn't want him running much and taking all those hits on that surgically repaired shoulder. What if he got hurt and had to have another surgery on his shoulder? First of all it slows his development down when he enrolls early at UT and could also make Coach's think twice about two shoulder surgeries in two yrs. His college future is way more important than a few HS games and his Dad knows that. No reason to risk that by running more than he had too. Good post! He definitely has plenty mobility and is with Dobbs as far as speed and actually is probably faster. Some. People don't realize Dobbs was a Prostyle QB out of HS and didn't run more that 8-10 times a game. And Jameis was labeled a DT and he very rarely runs.
 
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DD4ME said:
Agree Dormady is the new mold of mobile Pocket Passers Ala Wilson and Colaros.
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Winston as well. I see Dormady very similar to Winston as far as running just enough and can be dangerous when they do. But have very good arms and are just winners. I can't stand Winston but give him credit he has talent and knows how to win. Just has something not right going on in his head.
 
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Burger said:
We don't need 3 QBs this year at all. One of them will never play here. We need more offensive linemen, linebackers, and safeties.
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If Peterman transfers and there is no guarantee that Jennings will cut it at QB taking 3 is very important. Last 2 yrs we have gotten down to the third and fourth string QB. And if Dobbs starts next yr if he doesn't learn to start sliding he won't make it through a season unhurt. He got hobbling several times this yr and took shots that he just shouldn't take. Think it comes down to if the Coach's think Peterman is transferring. Ideal situation is getting a kid that has graduated that has a yr left but is capable to bridge the gap and let Dormady and Jennings RS but lately we haven't had that luxory. Curious to see how it plays out. But do feel confident that Dormady would look much better as a TR FR than Peterman as a RS JR...Will be one of many interesting battles to watch in the Spring..
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Winston as well. I see Dormady very similar to Winston as far as running just enough and can be dangerous when they do. But have very good arms and are just winners. I can't stand Winston but give him credit he has talent and knows how to win. Just has something not right going on in his head.
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Yeah I get the Andrew luck feel more so. He seems like a great guy and a hard worker (EE for bowl practice is impressive). Hope he shows how great he can be and will be.
 
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Defaultuser said:
You should go back and look at last year's draft. Lol or just look over all the numerous pocket passers drafted over the last 20 years. Plenty of busts. It's a new day. Get used to it.
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Not sure about that. A true DT QB will never overtake pocket passers. You may have guys that are like Elway, Montana and Young who had mobility but you don't want them running a lot. A true DT QB that relies on his legs more than his arm will never make it in the NFL. Russel Wilson doesn't run a lot, Coaches didn't want RG3 running much and it's affected his game but taking that many hits by NFL guys won't have you playing many Sundays because you will stay in rehab and keeping surgeons busy. I can see guys with a little more mobility than Peyton and Brady. Big Ben runs some, Kaepernick, Wilson, Flacco, Hill, Smith, Vick when he's healthy and a cpl others but still your top QB's Peyton, Brady, Rogers, Rivers, Stafford, Ryan very rarely run. Just don't see a pure DT QB becoming the norm in the NFL unless you plan on having several capable backups and not many really good QB's set their goals at backup and thirs string. I really doubt when Mariota gets there you will see him run very often. Luckily for him he throws just as well and actually better than he runs. Exactly why Chip Kelley doesn't have a pure DT guy, he knows they would never make it.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Pretty much. Dobbs has looked good in some of his games, his accuracy has been terrible in some as well. He is just not there yet. Maybe with better surrounding players he will improve.
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Maybe so but even when he has had time he still has been very inconstant with his accuracy. One minute he is dead on and the next we is overthrowing or throwing behind wide open guys. Definitely the biggest thing he needs to work on this offseason. He isn't gonna be able to run it 15-20 times every game and needs to show he can win games with his arm against teams other than ones with really bad defenses. Especially after seeing what Sims did against Mizzou's D. Shows it definitely can be done.
 
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AllVolinGA said:
As a high school coach, we always took several of the better freshmen and moved them up to varsity at the end of the season during playoffs. They got reps on the scout team and they always improved and were more ready to compete the following spring, just because they knew what to expect and had that extra practice time.
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Agree. It's the exposures to the situation and the mental reps that make such a big impact. People down play it but anytime you get mental reps at anything gets you that much closer to being immersed and full speed.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Am I the only one that thinks everyone is WAY overblowing the bowl practices? These guys practice constantly at different periods through the year, but a small set of bowl practices is somehow supposed to alter the trajectory of these guys' careers? Some people make it seem like the whole OL will suddenly "get it" because of a few bowl practices. Also, it's great if Dormady makes it in for bowl practice, but it's barely, if at all, different from him just starting with spring practice in my opinion.
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Oh no the extra practice is the most important thing about getting to a bowl, especially a lower tier bowl with a young team. Fifteen extra practices is huge for development. Coach's have said that for yrs. I guarantee Dobbs can use the extra practices as can all the FR that are starting and playing big roles. Definitely the more valuable part of UT getting to a bowl this yr.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
Yeah I get the Andrew luck feel more so. He seems like a great guy and a hard worker (EE for bowl practice is impressive). Hope he shows how great he can be and will be.
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Great comparison. I was just trying to show that we shouldn't base what a guy is considered out of HS as far as DT or Prostyle. Some prostyle guys run better than some DT, like in Dobbs case and some DT guys don't run as much once they get to college such as Winston.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Am I the only one that thinks everyone is WAY overblowing the bowl practices? These guys practice constantly at different periods through the year, but a small set of bowl practices is somehow supposed to alter the trajectory of these guys' careers? Some people make it seem like the whole OL will suddenly "get it" because of a few bowl practices. Also, it's great if Dormady makes it in for bowl practice, but it's barely, if at all, different from him just starting with spring practice in my opinion.
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The only thing I see overblown about the bowl practices are people wanting the EEs to practice. They don't get a lot of value out of the practices, but I think it's very good for the rest of the team.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Winston as well. I see Dormady very similar to Winston as far as running just enough and can be dangerous when they do. But have very good arms and are just winners. I can't stand Winston but give him credit he has talent and knows how to win. Just has something not right going on in his head.
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I like QD but he is nowhere near Winston's level coming out of HS.
 
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As it was reported earlier on Thursday Tennessee quarterback commitment Quinten Dormady will remain on campus after his official visit for practice. But, what's not clear is whether or not Dormady will participate in practice.

As everyone knows Dormady missed his junior season because of surgery to repair a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder and we've heard that he may be banged up or injured once again. What isn't clear is the extent of the injury or the recovery time expected for Dormady. So while Dormady may remain on campus it will be interesting to see if he suits up and actually practices and throws the ball while here. We are inclined to believe that he will not be a full practice participant.
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LittleDTO said:
Talked to my source today about this situation. All they said was, "I can't say." When I pressed to find out when they could say, they replied, "after the bowl game."

My guess....Peterman is transferring.

Purely a guess though.
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Maybe Dormady's injury makes them a little worried? IF they think he may have something significant especially to an already surgically repaired shoulder then Jennings would be Dobbs primary backup without anyone significant behind him. If you have concerns about his shoulder and Peterman transfers, you almost have to have another option.
 
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