'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Arm strength? I will give you that, but that's about it. QD has better overall skill IMO.
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Bray was very accurate too. Unless you have some reason to believe QD is exceptionally good at the mental side of things before he's even practiced, that's a pretty unfounded opinion from all the knowledge we non insiders have access to.
 
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jave36 said:
Bray was very accurate too. Unless you have some reason to believe QD is exceptionally good at the mental side of things before he's even practiced, that's a pretty unfounded opinion from all the knowledge we non insiders have access to.
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I think you're romanticising Bray's accuracy. I remember a lot of passes being high or out of bounds.

And it wouldn't take much for Dormady to be better from a leadership and maturity stand point, Bray set those bars pretty low.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
I think you're romanticising Bray's accuracy. I remember a lot of passes being high or out of bounds.

And it wouldn't take much for Dormady to be better from a leadership and maturity stand point, Bray set those bars pretty low.
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I agree, but he hasn't even practiced yet, so it seems just wild guesswork to say he's a better QB than Bray. If the point is that Bray was so bad it's impossible not to be better, that's fine I guess, but saying he's a better total QB before the kid even practices can't be based on any facts unless the poster knows a lot more about QD personally than anyone else.
 
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jave36 said:
I agree, but he hasn't even practiced yet, so it seems just wild guesswork to say he's a better QB than Bray. If the point is that Bray was so bad it's impossible not to be better, that's fine I guess, but saying he's a better total QB before the kid even practices can't be based on any facts unless the poster knows a lot more about QD personally than anyone else.
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The argument was skill set not necessarily a better qb. When I read better I think productivity not potential. I don't think anyone would argue dormady is going to throw for 3000 yards and 30 TDs next year like bray did in 2012. But I would argue he has the skill set, if he fulfills his potential to do that and lead the team to more wins.
 
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jave36 said:
Bray was very accurate too. Unless you have some reason to believe QD is exceptionally good at the mental side of things before he's even practiced, that's a pretty unfounded opinion from all the knowledge we non insiders have access to.
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Bray's percentage was around 50. Not good.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Bray's percentage was around 50. Not good.
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He was always playing from behind thanks to a terrible defense. Bray with this years team would have done big, big things.

Bray had some of the best arm talent Tennessee will ever see, he never cared to master the mental side.
 
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Lol at people acting like Bray wasn't very good. He's one of the best QB's to ever play for UT.

Here's just a few of his accomplishments..

-4th all time in TD's with 69. Only 3 behind Ainge.
-4th in total passing yards with 7,400.
-most passing yards in a single game with 530.
-most 400 yard passing games with 4. Peyton is the only other QB to pass for 400 in a game.
-4th QB to ever pass for 3,000 yards in a season.


..and that was only in 3 years. If he would have stayed for his senior year , who knows how many records he would have broken. Maybe not the brightest guy, but he was a stud & had no defensive help at all.
 
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amazingGRACE said:
Lol at people acting like Bray wasn't very good. He's one of the best QB's to ever play for UT.

Here's just a few of his accomplishments..

-4th all time in TD's with 69. Only 3 behind Ainge.
-4th in total passing yards with 7,400.
-most passing yards in a single game with 530.
-most 400 yard passing games with 4. Peyton is the only other QB to pass for 400 in a game.
-4th QB to ever pass for 3,000 yards in a season.


..and that was only in 3 years. If he would have stayed for his senior year , who knows how many records he would have broken. Maybe not the brightest guy, but he was a stud & had no defensive help at all.
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He broke records because he had no defensive help. He threw for 400+ against Troy and we still barely won. He was super talented.

He doesn't crack my list of "stud" QBs in tennessee history. No true "stud" QB has a winning percentage that he had.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
He broke records because he had no defensive help. He threw for 400+ against Troy and we still barely won. He was super talented.

He doesn't crack my list of "stud" QBs in tennessee history. No true "stud" QB has a winning percentage that he had.
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Makes no sense. Wasn't his fault he played under Derek Dooley & the worst DC in the history of football. Was he supposed to line up at mike linebacker & run the defense in his spare time?
 
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amazingGRACE said:
Makes no sense. Wasn't his fault he played under Derek Dooley & the worst DC in the history of football. Was he supposed to line up at mike linebacker & run the defense in his spare time?
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It does inflate his statistics some, how many yards could some of the Qbs in ut history thrown for against teams like Troy if they'd needed 400+ yard to squeak out a win. Not his fault but some of his statistics need context.
 
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amazingGRACE said:
Makes no sense. Wasn't his fault he played under Derek Dooley & the worst DC in the history of football. Was he supposed to line up at mike linebacker & run the defense in his spare time?
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Despise the "he didn't win so he wasn't good" argument, like there aren't 21 other guys and a coaching staff that determine wins and losses.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
The argument was skill set not necessarily a better qb. When I read better I think productivity not potential. I don't think anyone would argue dormady is going to throw for 3000 yards and 30 TDs next year like bray did in 2012. But I would argue he has the skill set, if he fulfills his potential to do that and lead the team to more wins.
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What is a scenario in which someone has a better skill set but isn't a better qb? What does that even mean? And how do you know or even have an opinion that some high school kid that's never taken a practice snap has a better skill set than an NFL qb and one of the greatest statistical QBs in UT history?
 
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Without Bray, 2012 would of been a three win team. He couldn't suit up on defense. Football is a team sport, and many people seem to forget that all the time. Championships are won as a team. You are only as good of a team as your weakest link.

That's like saying a very productive employee is terrible because the business is about to fold because of bad management.
 
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Wow. What a discussion I started by just asking if anyone thinks Dormady throws like bray on the run and I awkward positions lol. I was just comparing two types of throws and it ended up all this haha
 
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Burger said:
Without Bray, 2012 would of been a three win team. He couldn't suit up on defense. Football is a team sport, and many people seem to forget that all the time. Championships are won as a team. You are only as good of a team as your weakest link.

That's like saying a very productive employee is terrible because the business is about to fold because of bad management.
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What the hell are you talking about? We lost every semi close game we played... And beat garbage teams... I see people are still defending Bray tho... (Yes I remember Sal)
 
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Bray had a lot of talent around him. He had no defense for his last year here. Wilcox was actually pretty good when he was here though. Bray had a lot of talent but he never understood the leadership part of being a QB. He never beat a big time opponent and a fair bit of the blame rests squarely on his shoulders in those losses. IDK why we're revising history and making excuses for Bray, he is not an all time great QB, not even close.
 
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Our own fans hating on one of the university's best ever QB's..why am I not surprised.


Dudes a legend. Deal with it.
 

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amazingGRACE said:
Makes no sense. Wasn't his fault he played under Derek Dooley & the worst DC in the history of football. Was he supposed to line up at mike linebacker & run the defense in his spare time?
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This is right. Can you imagine how good he would have been under Phil or Butch? Mature coach who could have taught him to be a leader and surrounded him with defensive talent.
 
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Bray was an amazing arm talent, threw a beautiful deep ball, and had no fear. He was also a gunslinger who displayed poor body language at times (losing will do that to you). Puzzling decision-making off the field gives the impression that he was poor leader, be it right or wrong.

Bray wasn't all good or all bad, but if you gave Justin Worley his physical attributes, then you are talking about a 1st/2nd rd talent.
 
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