'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

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terrypedigo said:
I wonder if Texas now gives him a offer if he would bail on us.
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I would guess they are happy with Gentry. Quinten did say that TX was recruiting him(no offer) up until Gentry committed to them. He said all contact then stopped.

TCU is a pretty good offer for TX kids wanting to stay in state. IMO he is all Vol now and he's done.
 
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patrick said:
...Those are not opinions but rather statistical facts. How effective was last year's offense with Worley under center - everyone in the league new he was not a run a threat which hindered the offense. Couple that with CBJ's apparent refusal to tailor the system to Worley and his offensive line's ability and it made for a tough year...
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Worley beat a top ten team, SC, and almost beat Georgia. Dobbs lost to everybody except Ky. Worley did pretty well by our offense. We probably would have gotten the vandy win if he and not Dobbs were in that game. Let's not act like Worley were a bad player. He proved more than any QB last year. Dobbs did well against Ky, but was pretty pedestrian everywhere else. That's not a knock, he was young/new. Worley was also new in the system though, and he almost brought Georgia and SC to their knees.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Maybe upon arriving to Tennessee and the SEC CBJ decided his QB "prototype" from his central michigan/cinci days needed a bit of a tweeking? :dunno:
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Build your system around your QB, we just need a QB that can get the ball to the wideouts look what we got already one of the most talented group in the country, tweet the system a little if the kid can run any it will work.
 
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Great pick up. Cannot wait to see how his Sr season plays out. This should ease the minds of our wr's and TE's.
 
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DL916 said:
I think this speaks more to Butch's ability to adjust systems to better fit his players' talents, rather than how QB might not fit one of the systems that Butch is recruiting him for.
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Explain how CBJ "adjusted" his system last year?

He and his offensive coordinator lamented numerous times that Worley needed to carry the ball more and Worley reiterated the same comments.

I think Dormady is a really nice pro-style QB. As I said before though I hope that he can improve his running ability and his zone read skills.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Maybe upon arriving to Tennessee and the SEC CBJ decided his QB "prototype" from his central michigan/cinci days needed a bit of a tweeking? :dunno:
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exactly...pretty sure if every MAC and Big East team had a Clowney,McClain,Dee Ford,etc.,he would've changed it then too...
 
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Iirc, didn't butch have a pocket passer and a duel threat and rotated them thru out the game when he was a bear cat?
 
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patrick said:
Explain how CBJ "adjusted" his system last year?

He and his offensive coordinator lamented numerous times that Worley needed to carry the ball more and Worley reiterated the same comments.

I think Dormady is a really nice pro-style QB. As I said before though I hope that he can improve his running ability and his zone read skills.
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Pretty sure they were referring to the qb reads and broken down plays. "More", to me, means the qb failed to read the play correctly and should have ran instead of handing the ball off. Seriously, we DO NOT want a run 1st qb do we? With our wr's, tb's, and (hopefully) our TE's the qb should rarely run but be capable to...imo
 
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patrick said:
Explain how CBJ "adjusted" his system last year?

He and his offensive coordinator lamented numerous times that Worley needed to carry the ball more and Worley reiterated the same comments.

I think Dormady is a really nice pro-style QB. As I said before though I hope that he can improve his running ability and his zone read skills.
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If I'm not mistaken you talked about how qbs under Butch ran more at previous stops. He's also had guys who aren't runners execute his system pretty well.

Last year we had a passer in Worley who did a decent job without much help on the outside. The system will be run first if we have a running qb and a pass first if we have a passer aka adjusting.

Can't make Worley run more if the kid isn't capable of running well. QD claims to run a low 4.7 which is .02 slower than Menziel's 4.68. Not saying he'll be that but he'll be good enough to move outside the pocket and still deliver a 20 yard pass down the field instead of a 10 yard run.
 
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The running Worley did against Ga and SC would suffice. Extend a couple of drives with your feet and keep the defense honest. Won one game and had the other.
 
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And if I may add, didn't he hurt his shoulder diving head first into a base? He can run the bases and athletic enough to dive headfirst at 6'4, but some think he is a statue and Butch would recruit a statue?

Common sense helps quite often.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
And if I may add, didn't he hurt his shoulder diving head first into a base? He can run the bases and athletic enough to dive headfirst at 6'4, but some think he is a statue and Butch would recruit a statue?

Common sense helps quite often.
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Second base Sparty, but who's counting.

SN: Who dives into 1st base besides Pete Rose???
 
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Spartacavolus said:
And if I may add, didn't he hurt his shoulder diving head first into a base? He can run the bases and athletic enough to dive headfirst at 6'4, but some think he is a statue and Butch would recruit a statue?

Common sense helps quite often.
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Don't waste your time Sparty. Patrick is clearly more of an expert than CBJ here.
 
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DL916 said:
It all goes back to Butch asking Ainge play the role of a hype man on the radio. Nobody has come out and directly stated this but Ainge said that Butch asked him to play a role in this program as a radio show host.

Ainge gets these kids, they throw them easy questions, the kid responds the way he's supposed to, and then TSR starts pumping orange koolaid about how amazing the kid is.

I like that a station is All Vol but the leading questions and such can get a bit old after a while. "what's the best program in the country that's located in Knoxville?"
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University of Phoenix has a campus here, So.......
 
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Spartacavolus said:
And if I may add, didn't he hurt his shoulder diving head first into a base? He can run the bases and athletic enough to dive headfirst at 6'4, but some think he is a statue and Butch would recruit a statue?

Common sense helps quite often.
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After reading this thread and the TG thread, I have deduced that common sense is not very common around this place.
 
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Comparisons of CBJ's previous teams can only go so far. We can see how he designed his offense to win with the components he could get, but he NEVER had the tools we have a Tennessee, and he NEVER had the options of competing for the likes of Gibson or Dormady at Cincy. It is impossible to predict exactly what the offense will look like now based on a completely different context at UC or CMU. We might be able to identify some tendancies, etc., but no way you can know how CBJ will design this thing with all the tools he wants.

And Butch gets to play with all the sharp tools, IMO.
 
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I'm excited for him to come here. One thing I must say is that I hate people on here for a few reasons. Some people were like "Gibson!!! Yay a 5 star, can't wait for him to be our future star" and now they are like "dormandy is our next true quarterback. I don't want Gibson, he's a reliability."
 
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LittleDTO said:
UT will have one of the best WR groups in the nation, but Patricia wants a QB who can run. Makes total sense.

Are you still mad that Cut chose Peyton over Brandon Stewart?
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Keepin' it real DTO. The lack of understanding of this "system" in respect to QB's is unreal. Dormady is a bigger, stronger Zach Collaros. That is the kind of QB that eats in this "system". He is mobile enough to keep a defense honest, and has the skills to get the ball to our real playmakers.

The detractors apparently haven't seen his shuttle and 40 numbers. He has a much more complete set of QB skills than any of the guys remaining on the list.
 
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Dobbs rushed for 263 yards in five games for a 52.6 average per game. Had he played the entire season at QB his rush total would have been approx 631 yds (based upon extrapolation). Had Dobbs played all season and had around that rushing total that would been a little over 25% of the total rushing yards for the team. That number would have been consistent with CBJ's QB's historical rushing percentages...
 
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