'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

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'Boro-vol said:
Keepin' it real DTO. The lack of understanding of this "system" in respect to QB's is unreal. Dormady is a bigger, stronger Zach Collaros. That is the kind of QB that eats in this "system". He is mobile enough to keep a defense honest, and has the skills to get the ball to our real playmakers.

The detractors apparently haven't seen his shuttle and 40 numbers. He has a much more complete set of QB skills than any of the guys remaining on the list.
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Been awhile my friend. Good to see you lurking around.
 
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patrick said:
Dobbs rushed for 263 yards in five games for a 52.6 average per game. Had he played the entire season at QB his rush total would have been approx 631 yds (based upon extrapolation). Had Dobbs played all season and had around that rushing total that would been a little over 25% of the total rushing yards for the team. That number would have been consistent with CBJ's QB's historical rushing percentages...
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Dobbs as a true freshman at the end of the season with so few reliable passing targets was probably like some of CBJ's teams at Cincy. Could be significantly different this year and following.
 
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patrick said:
Dobbs rushed for 263 yards in five games for a 52.6 average per game. Had he played the entire season at QB his rush total would have been approx 631 yds (based upon extrapolation). Had Dobbs played all season and had around that rushing total that would been a little over 25% of the total rushing yards for the team. That number would have been consistent with CBJ's QB's historical rushing percentages...
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Actually he is credited with 38 carries for 189 yards rushing.

37.8 Yards a game. 1 TD. :hi:
 
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patrick said:
Dobbs rushed for 263 yards in five games for a 52.6 average per game. Had he played the entire season at QB his rush total would have been approx 631 yds (based upon extrapolation). Had Dobbs played all season and had around that rushing total that would been a little over 25% of the total rushing yards for the team. That number would have been consistent with CBJ's QB's historical rushing percentages...
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If Butch took his commitment, don't you believe that Butch thinks he can fit his style of offense? Why would he recruit and accept a players commitment if he did not believe that he could be successful with his play calling and style?

Edit: talking about Dormady
 
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tim said:
Pretty sure they were referring to the qb reads and broken down plays. "More", to me, means the qb failed to read the play correctly and should have ran instead of handing the ball off. Seriously, we DO NOT want a run 1st qb do we? With our wr's, tb's, and (hopefully) our TE's the qb should rarely run but be capable to...imo
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I NEVER - EVER - said run first.
 
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tim said:
Pretty sure they were referring to the qb reads and broken down plays. "More", to me, means the qb failed to read the play correctly and should have ran instead of handing the ball off. Seriously, we DO NOT want a run 1st qb do we? With our wr's, tb's, and (hopefully) our TE's the qb should rarely run but be capable to...imo
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And to you your point that the "qb failed to read the play correctly and should have ran instead of handing off" logically means that Worley should have had more runs which would have probably made for a more effective offense at least to some degree.
 
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Tony Pike/ Zach Collaros.....average mobile pro-styles that put up great numbers in this "system". Having an accurate passer, that can read the situation far outweighs mobility in this offense. The cool thing is, Dormady appears to have both.
 
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patrick said:
And to you your point that the "qb failed to read the play correctly and should have ran instead of handing off" logically means that Worley should have had more runs which would have probably made for a more effective offense at least to some degree.
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and a greater chance of getting hurt and being stuck with a true freshman,who they would've rather have RS, who had all of 3 months to learn the playbook,which is what happened,and we missed a bowl game... your philosophy works miracles,you would be the Lambeau Fields of coaching...
 
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patrick said:
Dobbs rushed for 263 yards in five games for a 52.6 average per game. Had he played the entire season at QB his rush total would have been approx 631 yds (based upon extrapolation). Had Dobbs played all season and had around that rushing total that would been a little over 25% of the total rushing yards for the team. That number would have been consistent with CBJ's QB's historical rushing percentages...
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So we ran more when a more mobile qb was playing and less when a less mobile qb was playing? That's adjusting if I've ever seen it. You play to your players' strengths.

QD will be more of a passer, I expect Butch to bring in a running QB or give the instate kid a shot at QB before moving him to Safety.
 
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jman9865 said:
Worley beat a top ten team, SC, and almost beat Georgia. Dobbs lost to everybody except Ky. Worley did pretty well by our offense. We probably would have gotten the vandy win if he and not Dobbs were in that game. Let's not act like Worley were a bad player. He proved more than any QB last year. Dobbs did well against Ky, but was pretty pedestrian everywhere else. That's not a knock, he was young/new. Worley was also new in the system though, and he almost brought Georgia and SC to their knees.
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The USCe game was the worst coaching job of Spurrier's career and the UGA game was headed to Blowout City until all their star players started dropping like flies.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Actually he is credited with 38 carries for 189 yards rushing.

37.8 Yards a game. 1 TD. :hi:
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I'm a fan of Dormady but Patrick is arguably correct in his analysis of Dobb's rushing performance last year though I don't know if he's making an apples to apples comparison to other QBs and don't really care.

I do think Dobbs is a pretty good runner and I don't think his rushing stats from last year show that as clear as might be the case if sacks were not included. His published rushing stats includes 7 sacks for 70 yards so he actually rushed for 259 yards on 31 carries for 8.35 ypc not including sacks. You're correct that the stats usually don't make that differentiation and so credit him accordingly. Aside from any comparison to other QB's Dobbs has wheels. jmo.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm a fan of Dormady but Patrick is arguably correct in his analysis of Dobb's rushing performance last year though I don't know if he's making an apples to apples comparison to other QBs and don't really care.

I do think Dobbs is a pretty good runner and I don't think his rushing stats from last year show that as clear as might be the case if sacks were not included. His published rushing stats includes 7 sacks for 70 yards so he actually rushed for 259 yards on 31 carries for 8.35 ypc not including sacks. You're correct that the stats usually don't make that differentiation and so credit him accordingly. Aside from any comparison to other QB's Dobbs has wheels. jmo.
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Yeah I am considering the sack yardage as that goes into a QBs rushing stats. If your looking at central Michigan or cinci QB rush numbers, I'd imagine sack yardage is figured into it.
 
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maybe we should just run the triple option,that would make some of you happy...
Jalen would make a good mobile QB,would keep it 25% of the time,and fit all these
parameters...:crazy:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Yeah I am considering the sack yardage as that goes into a QBs rushing stats. If your looking at central Michigan or cinci QB rush numbers, I'd imagine sack yardage is figured into it.
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Yeah that why I said I wasn't making any comparison to any other QBs and I didn't think Patrick was making an apples to apples comparision. I was just showing that Dobbs can run effectively if it's a designed run or read. Getting rid of the ball to avoid the sack would help his published rushing stats considerably. :)
 
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