'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

[ajvol01]

Great point above..............look at Florida's class.

Very few studs in the current class right now and a majority are 3 stars and unranked.

When your program is in a certain situation you can't be picky.

Alabama and LSU can be picky. Florida and Tennessee cannot be.

Your trolling is exemplary

 

[patrick]

Butch wanted him means I wanted him

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

 

[patrick]

Oh I know the story. I'm an old guy. My point is if you you're a Vol fan after the last several years you're pretty much a VFL. We all have one goal, to see the vols at the top of the mountain again. Some have differing opinions on how to get there. All this Vol on Vol hate bothers me. It's why I usually stay away from the football forum. The recruiting forum is inching closer each day to what the ff forum is. I don't understand why we have to ridicule a poster when we disagree. Can't we just say "I couldn't disagree more with that statement" and have a decent discussion instead of saying "you're the stupidest pile of $#/% I've ever seen. why don't you gtfo you useless piece of %#$÷"?

Indeed....

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

So what's your point?

 

[csprig9]

247 Top 5 QB even though he didn't play as Jr...check
strong arm, fast feet, accurate passer...check
Dormady is a QB and not a WR...check
Butch likes Dormady....check
Gruden likes Dormady...check
Dormady likes UT........check
Saban wanted Dormady...check
Dormady didn't want Saban...check

some on Volnation didn't want Dormady.... :loco:

those statements r all that need b said.....I said it earlier, IMO this is UT'S best QB recruit since clausen...:good!:

 

[VolFromNashville]

Can't wait until Quinten is on campus. Great looking QB. Hopefully he can utilize the tight ends.

 

[jasonvol18]

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

So did everyone else.

 

[jjay2518]

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

Nick Saban is a terrible judge of talent.

 

[RikidyBones]

there it is.... resort to name calling... very classy....

No offense, but it was an idiotic point.

 

[big harry]

I just hope Q is quick enough to get out of protection if there's penetration in the backfield. I admit I wanted Gibson bad though .

 

[onevol74]

I think you are way of base here!!!

(percentage of qb runs based upon total number of rushing plays - 2013 season with exception of Cam Newton):

Please see Gus Malzahn & Nick Marshall (23% of run plays)

See also Gene Chizik & Cam Newton (40% of run plays)

See also Steve Spurrier and Conner Shaw & D Thompson (33% of run plays)

See also Gary Pinkel and Mauk/Franklin (27% of run plays)

See also Will Muschamp and his QB's (20% of run plays)

See also Kevin Sumlin and Manziel (32% of run plays)

Ole Miss (36% of run plays)

Vandy (29% of run plays)

Miss State (37% of run plays).

And that's just in the SEC.......

Man, this is great!!! You need to file a grievance against the UTAD. It appears that they must have lost your resume the last time the head coaching position was open.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

More like wanted a few bodies on the DL. We needed whoever would take us on the DL. When the guys he spent a full ear recruiting bust then you can make that argument.


There will be some busts. It happens.

 

[Spartacavolus]

How well did Worley learn the zone read from the time CBJ stepped on campus until he was injured? He was very reluctant to "keep" the ball when the defense gave him the run.

Because he had been playing football his entire life, including when he was Gatorade poy, and had never read the defensive end on a play to keep the ball and make a play with his legs. And he happened to do it better against ga and sc, picking up multiple first downs and key yards.
It's not a video game. It's real football.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

I think you are way of base here!!!

(percentage of qb runs based upon total number of rushing plays - 2013 season with exception of Cam Newton):

Please see Gus Malzahn & Nick Marshall (23% of run plays)

See also Gene Chizik & Cam Newton (40% of run plays)

See also Steve Spurrier and Conner Shaw & D Thompson (33% of run plays)

See also Gary Pinkel and Mauk/Franklin (27% of run plays)

See also Will Muschamp and his QB's (20% of run plays)

See also Kevin Sumlin and Manziel (32% of run plays)

Ole Miss (36% of run plays)

Vandy (29% of run plays)

Miss State (37% of run plays).

And that's just in the SEC.......

And you're way off base 99.999876% of the time with your crap about running the QB. QB's run to get away from the rush, they run when they get sacked, they run when they get chased out of bounds much more than they run on designed plays. That in all of college football.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

Butch wanted Jason Carr.....just saying.....

Carr made that choice. If a player can't compete at the new Tennessee they'll be moved down the line. If they don't play here they will make a decision to leave.

 

[UTMark]

I figured it out.....

Patrick is Bruin's brother.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

The majority of my posts within this thread concern CBJ's QBs rushing stats over his career as a head coach. I did not make those stats up or pull them out of the air. Those stats show that his QB's usually account for over 20% of the total rushing yards for his teams with the exception of last year. And last, CBJ and his OC said numerous times that Worley needed to "keep" the ball more than he did which would have increased the QB's rushing yards. Even Worley made this comment a number of times before he was sidelined with an injury.

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Butch can and will modify his offensive gameplan in accordance with the specific skillset possessed by his quarterback. However, I fully agree that telling insights into Butch's offensive tendencies, with respect to use of the quarterback as a ball carrier, can be gained from looking at stats for his starting QBs prior to taking the job at Tennessee. Consider the following:

Cincinnati (2010-2012):
2012: Munchie Legaux 55-335 6.1 ave. 4 tds.
Brendon Kay 48-306 6.4 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 103-639 yds. 6 tds.

2011: Zach Collaros 84-234 2.8 ave. 8 tds.
Munchie Legaux 41-185 4.5 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 125-419 yds. 10 tds.

2010: Zach Collaros 121-202 1.7 ave. 4 tds.
Chazz Anderson 19-80 4.2 ave. 0 tds.
Total: 140-282 yds. 4 tds.

Central Michigan (2007-2009):
2009: Dan Lefevour 183-713 3.9 ave. 15 tds.

2008: Dan Lefevour 168-592 3.5 ave. 6 tds.

2007: Dan Lefevour 188-1122 6.0 ave. 19 tds. (Incidentally, Lefevour also passed for 3652 yds. and 27 tds. that year.).

These numbers suggest that Butch most definitely likes to use his quarterback as an integral part of the running game. Given how punishing SEC defenses are, he might be inclined to "dial it down a notch," but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Dobbs, if he should wind up as the starter, with 80-100 carries. Indeed, his rushing stats for last year, if projected over a full season, would have tallied roughly 500 yards, which is more than any Tennessee quarterback has amassed since Jimmy Streater.

With respect to the premise that no college coach wants his quarterback to account for 20% (or more) of his team's rushing attempts, I would point out the many Oklahoma, Nebraska, Air Force and Auburn quarterbacks who have rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season.

 

[patrick]

And you're way off base 99.999876% of the time with your crap about running the QB. QB's run to get away from the rush, they run when they get sacked, they run when they get chased out of bounds much more than they run on designed plays. That in all of college football.

do you even watch college football or the teams in my example???? or for that matter any of the teams that run the zone read spread option? apparently not...

 

[butchna]

I have no doubt whatsoever that Butch can and will modify his offensive gameplan in accordance with the specific skillset possessed by his quarterback. However, I fully agree that telling insights into Butch's offensive tendencies, with respect to use of the quarterback as a ball carrier, can be gained from looking at stats for his starting QBs prior to taking the job at Tennessee. Consider the following:

Cincinnati (2010-2012):
2012: Munchie Legaux 55-335 6.1 ave. 4 tds.
Brendon Kay 48-306 6.4 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 103-639 yds. 6 tds.

2011: Zach Collaros 84-234 2.8 ave. 8 tds.
Munchie Legaux 41-185 4.5 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 125-419 yds. 10 tds.

2010: Zach Collaros 121-202 1.7 ave. 4 tds.
Chazz Anderson 19-80 4.2 ave. 0 tds.
Total: 140-282 yds. 4 tds.

Central Michigan (2007-2009):
2009: Dan Lefevour 183-713 3.9 ave. 15 tds.

2008: Dan Lefevour 168-592 3.5 ave. 6 tds.

2007: Dan Lefevour 188-1122 6.0 ave. 19 tds. (Incidentally, Lefevour also passed for 3652 yds. and 27 tds. that year.).

These numbers suggest that Butch most definitely likes to use his quarterback as an integral part of the running game. Given how punishing SEC defenses are, he might be inclined to "dial it down a notch," but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Dobbs, if he should wind up as the starter, with 80-100 carries. Indeed, his rushing stats for last year, if projected over a full season, would have tallied roughly 500 yards, which is more than any Tennessee quarterback has amassed since Jimmy Streater.

With respect to the premise that no college coach wants his quarterback to account for 20% (or more) of his team's rushing attempts, I would point out the many Oklahoma, Nebraska, Air Force and Auburn quarterbacks who have rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season.

NFL Combine scouting report had Lefevour's 40 time at 4.66 but listed in his weaknesses "Not fast enough to make plays with his legs"...sometimes naturally faster players don't run smart enough to take advantage of defenses...Mark Brunnell was considered a dangerous runner at 4.8...I think you're way too concerned with this...things will work out. :thumbsup:

 

[AV_12]

do you even watch college football or the teams in my example???? or for that matter any of the teams that run the zone read spread option? apparently not...

You clearly know what CBJ needs to run his offense better than him... Maybe he had to recruit a different type player elsewhere? It is clear that his offense can function without a pure DT guy. This is getting old

 

[OldVol49vfl]

do you even watch college football or the teams in my example???? or for that matter any of the teams that run the zone read spread option? apparently not...

I've been watching college football for over 50 years sonny boy. Tennessee's offense will consist of RB's running the ball and WR's making catches. No one cares about your examples! Tennessee's QB's main job this year will be getting the ball to the playmakers.

 

[patrick]

I have no doubt whatsoever that Butch can and will modify his offensive gameplan in accordance with the specific skillset possessed by his quarterback. However, I fully agree that telling insights into Butch's offensive tendencies, with respect to use of the quarterback as a ball carrier, can be gained from looking at stats for his starting QBs prior to taking the job at Tennessee. Consider the following:

Cincinnati (2010-2012):
2012: Munchie Legaux 55-335 6.1 ave. 4 tds.
Brendon Kay 48-306 6.4 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 103-639 yds. 6 tds.

2011: Zach Collaros 84-234 2.8 ave. 8 tds.
Munchie Legaux 41-185 4.5 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 125-419 yds. 10 tds.

2010: Zach Collaros 121-202 1.7 ave. 4 tds.
Chazz Anderson 19-80 4.2 ave. 0 tds.
Total: 140-282 yds. 4 tds.

Central Michigan (2007-2009):
2009: Dan Lefevour 183-713 3.9 ave. 15 tds.

2008: Dan Lefevour 168-592 3.5 ave. 6 tds.

2007: Dan Lefevour 188-1122 6.0 ave. 19 tds. (Incidentally, Lefevour also passed for 3652 yds. and 27 tds. that year.).

These numbers suggest that Butch most definitely likes to use his quarterback as an integral part of the running game. Given how punishing SEC defenses are, he might be inclined to "dial it down a notch," but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Dobbs, if he should wind up as the starter, with 80-100 carries. Indeed, his rushing stats for last year, if projected over a full season, would have tallied roughly 500 yards, which is more than any Tennessee quarterback has amassed since Jimmy Streater.

With respect to the premise that no college coach wants his quarterback to account for 20% (or more) of his team's rushing attempts, I would point out the many Oklahoma, Nebraska, Air Force and Auburn quarterbacks who have rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season.

Thank you VolRex...... Finally someone gets it.....

Not to mention that many other major college football programs are using their QBS an integral part of their running game. (Oregon, Cinci, Clemson, Florida State to name a few).

Frankly I prefer a pro-style offense but that is not what CBJ runs.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

thank you volrex...... Finally someone gets it.....

Not to mention that many other major college football programs are using their qbs an integral part of their running game. (oregon, cinci, clemson, florida state to name a few).

Frankly i prefer a pro-style offense but that is not what cbj runs.

Help! Where's Bruin???

 

[1orangews6]

Back when UT went 10-1 regular season then beat the Razorbacks in the Cotton Bowl, people wee still *****ing. I think Coach Majors got kinda fed up.
I understand his frustration.
Only time I get upset is when coaches or players do not give their all... Ie dooley, sal, bray, etc

So you were upset for about 3 years?

 

[rkvdg]

I just hope Q is quick enough to get out of protection if there's penetration in the backfield. I admit I wanted Gibson bad though .

OK I know tg can run juke sprint ,but are we not talking about a QB .Are they not passers first ? Are we not stock piling Wr's ? I'm not impressed with TG's passing skills ,and I wish his fans on here would enlighten me on his 5* passing ability . IMO Dobbs is just as good a runner and a better passer. For that matter Jennings is probable a better passer . I think its a no-brainer to take QD with what we got .