'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

[VolSteve]

I think everyone else has enlightened you enough. :hi:

Checkmate ?

 

[OldVol49vfl]

So why has Torrance Gibson been UT's top choice for QB in 2015 class? I guess it has nothing to do with his mobility and running ability or the fact that he can "break ankles".....

:good!:

I'd really love to see your coaching resume. According to you there is no one more knowledgeable about Butch Jones and everything that he does than you. What's the possibility of you renting TB Arena to sign and sell your autograph. You could get rich in one day according to how you feel about yourself. I guess if you weren't demanding a $12 million per year salary Dave Hart would have hired you!

 

[k-town_king]

Checkmate ?

Not really. I didn't respond because you don't get points for jumping in someone else's conversation. I have yet to see someone post something disputing what I have been saying. All the articles coming out have backed me up.

 

[JRVFL]

Huh

 

[patrick]

Actually 4A, realignment is a b!tch.

2014-16 OFFICIAL FOOTBALL DISTRICT ALIGNMENT


CONFERENCE 4A
District 14
Bandera
Boerne
Comal Canyon Lake
Fredericksburg
Liberty Hill
Taylor

when QD played as a soph they were 3A.

 

[patrick]

I'd really love to see your coaching resume. According to you there is no one more knowledgeable about Butch Jones and everything that he does than you. What's the possibility of you renting TB Arena to sign and sell your autograph. You could get rich in one day according to how you feel about yourself. I guess if you weren't demanding a $12 million per year salary Dave Hart would have hired you!

The majority of my posts within this thread concern CBJ's QBs rushing stats over his career as a head coach. I did not make those stats up or pull them out of the air. Those stats show that his QB's usually account for over 20% of the total rushing yards for his teams with the exception of last year. And last, CBJ and his OC said numerous times that Worley needed to "keep" the ball more than he did which would have increased the QB's rushing yards. Even Worley made this comment a number of times before he was sidelined with an injury.

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

 

[jjay2518]

The majority of my posts within this thread concern CBJ's QBs rushing stats over his career as a head coach. I did not make those stats up or pull them out of the air. Those stats show that his QB's usually account for over 20% of the total rushing yards for his teams with the exception of last year. And last, CBJ and his OC said numerous times that Worley needed to "keep" the ball more than he did which would have increased the QB's rushing yards. Even Worley made this comment a number of times before he was sidelined with an injury.

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

A few points....

He runs a 4.15 shuttle and around the same 40 time as Dobbs. He shouldn't have any trouble keeping a defense honest. Also with him being an EE he'll have a lot of extra time to learn the intricacies of the zone read.

I also don't see how it's so far-fetched to think that CBJ is wanting to scale back the amount his QB runs now that he's in the most physical league in the country.

Finally, I'd rather take an athletic pocket passer and teach him the zone read than take a super athletic DT QB with a questionable passing game and have to coach him up on that. Much easier to teach scrambling and zone reads than an up tempo spread passing game. I would have loved to get TG, but you can't deny that he would have been a project as well.

 

[triad280]

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

we do understand,what you fail to understand is with 5* WR's,4*TE's and a 5* RB,that the read option spread will probably not be run as much if Dormandy is the QB and he will only run it just to keep the Defense off balance from time to time... not 20%,more like 3-5%

 

[VolFromNashville]

Long time lurker but time to throw out some logic here. Why put all your eggs in the Gibson basket and take the chance that you could be left without a qb come February? Who knows whether we could've pulled Gibson or not. We didn't have the luxury to wait on him. I'm not a coach but Dormady's film looks good to me and he was only a sophmore. I think we're lucky we got him and should be happy to have his talents. Pretty excited about the future of the program.

Post more.

 

[theutvolunteers]

A few points....

He runs a 4.15 shuttle and around the same 40 time as Dobbs. He shouldn't have any trouble keeping a defense honest. Also with him being an EE he'll have a lot of extra time to learn the intricacies of the zone read.

I also don't see how it's so far-fetched to think that CBJ is wanting to scale back the amount his QB runs now that he's in the most physical league in the country.

Finally, I'd rather take an athletic pocket passer and teach him the zone read than take a super athletic DT QB with a questionable passing game and have to coach him up on that. Much easier to teach scrambling and zone reads than an up tempo spread passing game. I would have loved to get TG, but you can't deny that he would have been a project as well.

All day.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Very late to the party, but better late than never! Sounds like this dude is gonna be a good one. Anytime we can beat Bama head to head for a recruit is sweeeeeeeet!

 

[LorettoVol]

It should be a celebration. Think we've got a smart, strong armed QB that's an EE.

 

[LouderVol]

It may have been said already but why is everyone freaking out him being a 2* on Rivals. This is the same website that had Preston Williams as the number 16 or something WR in the nation. They will do the same thing and gradually bump him up over time.

 

[VolSteve]

247 Top 5 QB even though he didn't play as Jr...check
strong arm, fast feet, accurate passer...check
Dormady is a QB and not a WR...check
Butch likes Dormady....check
Gruden likes Dormady...check
Dormady likes UT........check
Saban wanted Dormady...check
Dormady didn't want Saban...check

some on Volnation didn't want Dormady.... :loco:

 

[BaldBiker]

The majority of my posts within this thread concern CBJ's QBs rushing stats over his career as a head coach. I did not make those stats up or pull them out of the air. Those stats show that his QB's usually account for over 20% of the total rushing yards for his teams with the exception of last year. And last, CBJ and his OC said numerous times that Worley needed to "keep" the ball more than he did which would have increased the QB's rushing yards. Even Worley made this comment a number of times before he was sidelined with an injury.

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

Worley didn't run the ball at all before, so keeping it any was keeping it more. I bet he'll keep it even more this year now too. It won't be 20% of the rushing though.

No coach in their right mind WANTS their QB to carry 20% of the rushing load. Even if the QB does carry that much of the load, I doubt tat the coach WANTS it that way.

 

[patrick]

A few points....

He runs a 4.15 shuttle and around the same 40 time as Dobbs. He shouldn't have any trouble keeping a defense honest. Also with him being an EE he'll have a lot of extra time to learn the intricacies of the zone read.

I also don't see how it's so far-fetched to think that CBJ is wanting to scale back the amount his QB runs now that he's in the most physical league in the country.

Finally, I'd rather take an athletic pocket passer and teach him the zone read than take a super athletic DT QB with a questionable passing game and have to coach him up on that. Much easier to teach scrambling and zone reads than an up tempo spread passing game. I would have loved to get TG, but you can't deny that he would have been a project as well.

How well did Worley learn the zone read from the time CBJ stepped on campus until he was injured? He was very reluctant to "keep" the ball when the defense gave him the run.

 

[patrick]

we do understand,what you fail to understand is with 5* WR's,4*TE's and a 5* RB,that the read option spread will probably not be run as much if Dormandy is the QB and he will only run it just to keep the Defense off balance from time to time... not 20%,more like 3-5%

CBJ did not go away from the zone read last year even with a QB in Worley who was very inefficient in running the scheme. CBJ was hell bent to run the zone read scheme despite his starting QB lacking the tools to run it. And as I said before CBJ and his OC lamented repeatedly that Worley needed to keep the ball more. Does not sound to me like Jones is going away from the zone read at all.

 

[eazyTD]

247 Top 5 QB even though he didn't play as Jr...check
strong arm, fast feet, accurate passer...check
Dormady is a QB and not a WR...check
Butch likes Dormady....check
Gruden likes Dormady...check
Dormady likes UT........check
Saban wanted Dormady...check
Dormady didn't want Saban...check

some on Volnation didn't want Dormady.... :loco:

I've wanted Dormady since he started blowing up a month or so ago. Great potential.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

The majority of my posts within this thread concern CBJ's QBs rushing stats over his career as a head coach. I did not make those stats up or pull them out of the air. Those stats show that his QB's usually account for over 20% of the total rushing yards for his teams with the exception of last year. And last, CBJ and his OC said numerous times that Worley needed to "keep" the ball more than he did which would have increased the QB's rushing yards. Even Worley made this comment a number of times before he was sidelined with an injury.

I do not understand why so many on this board refuse to acknowledge this...... It will remain to be scene whether QD has the mobility to run CBJ's offense. I have also said that QD has the looks of a good pro-style qb.

Think about it Mr. Expert! People on this board refuse to acknowledge what you say because the Tennessee offense is loaded with super RB's, super WR's and some really excellent TE's. The "mobility" as you call it, is in those positions. We have pro-style RB's and WR's. Like I've said, I'm not an expert (like you) but I can see the type of players that we have on the team and Butch will build his offense around them.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I think the fans have the right to be miserable over with the results over the last 8 years or so, Doc. CBJ seems to be hitting home run after home run on the recruiting trail but until the improvement shows on the field, they'll always be skepticism. Patience be running thin around here.

Back when UT went 10-1 regular season then beat the Razorbacks in the Cotton Bowl, people wee still *****ing. I think Coach Majors got kinda fed up.
I understand his frustration.
Only time I get upset is when coaches or players do not give their all... Ie dooley, sal, bray, etc

 

[TriedAndTrueVOL]

Can't wait until Quinten is on campus. Great looking QB. Hopefully he can utilize the tight ends.

Lulz...way to go man. :hi:
lol:lol:lol:

 

[jjay2518]

How well did Worley learn the zone read from the time CBJ stepped on campus until he was injured? He was very reluctant to "keep" the ball when the defense gave him the run.

Well, the whole offense was in the first year of learning a new scheme, so it's hard to make a direct comparison. Also, Worley had already learned and been running a pro style offense for multiple years and essentially had to unlearn a dropback handoff run game. You can't assume that just because Worley was slow to pick it up last year that any HS pocket passer coming in would have the same issues.

And maybe it's just the optimist in me, but I think we'll see a much more effective and well rounded Worley this year after having a full off season to work on the offense.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I've wanted Dormady since he started blowing up a month or so ago. Great potential.

Butch wanted him means I wanted him

 

[patrick]

Worley didn't run the ball at all before, so keeping it any was keeping it more. I bet he'll keep it even more this year now too. It won't be 20% of the rushing though.

No coach in their right mind WANTS their QB to carry 20% of the rushing load. Even if the QB does carry that much of the load, I doubt tat the coach WANTS it that way.

I think you are way of base here!!!

(percentage of qb runs based upon total number of rushing plays - 2013 season with exception of Cam Newton):

Please see Gus Malzahn & Nick Marshall (23% of run plays)

See also Gene Chizik & Cam Newton (40% of run plays)

See also Steve Spurrier and Conner Shaw & D Thompson (33% of run plays)

See also Gary Pinkel and Mauk/Franklin (27% of run plays)

See also Will Muschamp and his QB's (20% of run plays)

See also Kevin Sumlin and Manziel (32% of run plays)

Ole Miss (36% of run plays)

Vandy (29% of run plays)

Miss State (37% of run plays).

And that's just in the SEC.......

 

[InVOLuntary]

Back when UT went 10-1 regular season then beat the Razorbacks in the Cotton Bowl, people wee still *****ing. I think Coach Majors got kinda fed up.
I understand his frustration.
Only time I get upset is when coaches or players do not give their all... Ie dooley, sal, bray, etc

Oh I know the story. I'm an old guy. My point is if you you're a Vol fan after the last several years you're pretty much a VFL. We all have one goal, to see the vols at the top of the mountain again. Some have differing opinions on how to get there. All this Vol on Vol hate bothers me. It's why I usually stay away from the football forum. The recruiting forum is inching closer each day to what the ff forum is. I don't understand why we have to ridicule a poster when we disagree. Can't we just say "I couldn't disagree more with that statement" and have a decent discussion instead of saying "you're the stupidest pile of $#/% I've ever seen. why don't you gtfo you useless piece of %#$÷"?