'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

[m1al]

Still IMO much easier to sell a kid on being "the 1" in his class VS 1 of 3 in his class. JMO

Taking 3 is just not a common practice. Lots of folks on here complaining when a 2014 QB would not give UT a 2nd look after signing 2 in 2013. Sign 3 and see what happens.

IF we manage to sign all 3 this cycle. Is it likely all 3 will still be QB's for the duration of the next cycle? Forgive me if that's a dumb question..

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

IF we manage to sign all 3 this cycle. Is it likely all 3 will still be QB's for the duration of the next cycle? Forgive me if that's a dumb question..

Very doubtful.

 

[DaddyChad]

IF we manage to sign all 3 this cycle. Is it likely all 3 will still be QB's for the duration of the next cycle? Forgive me if that's a dumb question..

Are you asking if they stick with their commitment or get converted to another position? Yes to the first and second.

I think Jones will do what is best for the player and the team.

 

[m1al]

Are you asking if they stick with their commitment or get converted to another position? Yes to the first and second.

I think Jones will do what is best for the player and the team.

Yea, my question was based on a scenario in which all 3 stuck.. My line of thinking was that a QB recruit in the next cycle would not see it as having signed 3 QB's if one or more were moved to other positions..

Having said that, I freely admit I know very little about the process of recruiting..

 

[DaddyChad]

No need to get defensive. I'm inquiring.

I would also like to see where LWS said that. Again, just curious.

Sure no problem.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/216507-qb-competition-18.html#post10216311

See post #885

Dobbs will be getting some reps this season just to prep him for next season but as long as Worley stays healthy he will be the QB..

FWIW I think Dobbs will be an excellent QB when he finally takes the reins, I just don't believe he is ready yet. More importantly I don't think the coaches believe he is ready yet.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Yea, my question was based on a scenario in which all 3 stuck.. My line of thinking was that a QB recruit in the next cycle would not see it as having signed 3 QB's if one or more were moved to other positions..

Having said that, I freely admit I know very little about the process of recruiting..

The problem comes in where there is very little chance that either QB would be moved till after the 2016 QB recruits would have either stopped considering UT, and or committed elsewhere. You have to consider that these 3 QBs would still be in their 1st "spring/summer camp" this time next year at Tennessee IF all 3 are taken. They would not even be close to the 1st game of their FR year and as we see today, the QB board has almost worked itself all out recruiting wise for 2015. Most of the top kids are already locked in somewhere.

 

[DaddyChad]

Yea, my question was based on a scenario in which all 3 stuck.. My line of thinking was that a QB recruit in the next cycle would not see it as having signed 3 QB's if one or more were moved to other positions..

Having said that, I freely admit I know very little about the process of recruiting..

I truly believe all three will get their shot. Dormady is an EE and is your prototypical QB, he will have an advantage over the other two IMHO.

Gibson I would think if he doesn't win the QB job will get converted to WR and from some talent evaluators say he would likely be a 5* WR; if it's between him playing backup behind whoever wins the QB competition and getting on the field early as a WR I think he would want to contribute.

Jennings could convert to S as well. He is kind of under the radar.

 

[butchna]

Location may be a plus for TCU.

Their football stadium is tiny (not vandy tiny)
Cannot imagine facilities compare

They do have a nice baseball stadium. 3 big 12 teams in CWS (out of 8 teams)...my son just finished a baseall camp there.

Hey bignewt, are you in the DFW area?
Can't see that part of the profile on mobile...

It says he's in Lewisville...but I never see him when I go to Vista Ridge Mall. :unsure:

 

[Glitch]

The problem comes in where there is very little chance that either QB would be moved till after the 2016 QB recruits would have either stopped considering UT, and or committed elsewhere. You have to consider that these 3 QBs would still be in their 1st "spring/summer camp" this time next year at Tennessee IF all 3 are taken. They would not even be close to the 1st game of their FR year and as we see today, the QB board has almost worked itself all out recruiting wise for 2015. Most of the top kids are already locked in somewhere.

If we take all three and one doesn't cut the QB mustard and is moved to another position it would still leave us with to good/great QB options from the 15 class. If we strike out on QBs in 2016 because of it I don't think it will be the end of the world. Dobbs would either be a RS So or a Junior in 2015. Leaving him to lead the huddle again in 2016. At that point one of the studs from the 2015 class who are only RS Fr step up and have to take the reigns but they have had a whole year to lift and learn the system.

Come to think of it, it might be attractive to some QBs in 2016 because the QB competition would be wide open. Wow. Now I am kinda bummed out. :hmm:

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

If we take all three and one doesn't cut the QB mustard and is moved to another position it would still leave us with to good/great QB options from the 15 class. If we strike out on QBs in 2016 because of it I don't think it will be the end of the world. Dobbs would either be a RS So or a Junior in 2015. Leaving him to lead the huddle again in 2016. At that point one of the studs from the 2015 class who are only RS Fr step up and have to take the reigns but they have had a whole year to lift and learn the system.

Come to think of it, it might be attractive to some QBs in 2016 because the QB competition would be wide open. Wow. Now I am kinda bummed out. :hmm:

I'm just playing the %'s. Take 2 in 2015 with 1 being a project/ATH and IMO getting a top caliber kid in 2016 is maybe 65-70%. Take 3 in 2015 with 2 being project/ATHs and IMO that % drops to 10-15%. Very unlikely IMO.

2 in 2015, 1 in 2016, and it's better set up for long term success IMO. QBs are spread out and less likely to transfer out.

 

[Glitch]

I'm just playing the %'s. Take 2 in 2015 with 1 being a project/ATH and IMO getting a top caliber kid in 2016 is maybe 65-70%. Take 3 in 2015 with 2 being project/ATHs and IMO that % drops to 10-15%. Very unlikely IMO.

2 in 2015, 1 in 2016, and it's better set up for long term success IMO. QBs are spread out and less likely to transfer out.

I agree with your assessment. I think I am off too. The 15 QBs will hopefully RS in 15 and be prepared to back up Dobbs in 16. They would then compete for the starting job in 17. That stuff can get confusing. So many possible scenarios.

Also, in order to keep on topic.... Dormady... He gud.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I agree with your assessment. I think I am off too. The 15 QBs will hopefully RS in 15 and be prepared to back up Dobbs in 16. They would then compete for the starting job in 17. That stuff can get confusing. So many possible scenarios.

Also, in order to keep on topic.... Dormady... He gud.

I agree he is. IMO he will be the best equipped to challenge/push Dobbs in 2015. IF Peterman shows some development this year, maybe he can be that guy.

 

[m1al]

LV and DC, thanks.. I see what you're saying.. I knew the timing of it all would be close if possible at all.. I think, a year from now, one can only hope we have the luxury of that problem..

IMO, whether it be as a QB or a We, you have to take a recruit of TG's caliber if he wants to come..

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

LV and DC, thanks.. I see what you're saying.. I knew the timing of it all would be close if possible at all.. I think, a year from now, one can only hope we have the luxury of that problem..

IMO, whether it be as a QB or a We, you have to take a recruit of TG's caliber if he wants to come..

WR IMO would at least make sense. Do I think we need 3 in this class? I don't. I'd rather see another OL/DL kid get the spot. IF the coaches are set on taking TG, at least WR would not affect our future QB recruiting.

 

[kmkemp11]

I don't know why everyone is so worried about transfers. QBs transferring is a good thing. It means that you stacked the cupboards and lost the ones that weren't as good as the ones you kept. And then we get more spots in our roster open to continue taking full classes. Advantage us.

 

[m1al]

WR IMO would at least make sense. Do I think we need 3 in this class? I don't. I'd rather see another OL/DL kid get the spot. IF the coaches are set on taking TG, at least WR would not affect our future QB recruiting.

I agree with you on the OL/DL comment (especially DL).. If I were given the choice between TG and a monster DL, I would take the DL..

 

[005]

Guy is a big senior season away from being a top 100 player and the #3 pro style QB behind everyone's favorites in town and rosen.

That is so fun to think about.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Guy is a big senior season away from being a top 100 player and the #3 pro style QB behind everyone's favorites in town and rosen.

That is so fun to think about.

IMO he will end up a huge steal IF we can hold onto him till he signs. I agree he is in for a huge SR season stat wise. Look forward to hearing the stat line each week.

 

[rach83]

IMO he will end up a huge steal IF we can hold onto him till he signs. I agree he is in for a huge SR season stat wise. Look forward to hearing the stat line each week.

I'm sure it's been mentioned but is he an EE?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I'm sure it's been mentioned but is he an EE?

Yes he is.

 

[big harry]

The problem comes in where there is very little chance that either QB would be moved till after the 2016 QB recruits would have either stopped considering UT, and or committed elsewhere. You have to consider that these 3 QBs would still be in their 1st "spring/summer camp" this time next year at Tennessee IF all 3 are taken. They would not even be close to the 1st game of their FR year and as we see today, the QB board has almost worked itself all out recruiting wise for 2015. Most of the top kids are already locked in somewhere.

If you really like all three and can sign them, you can redshirt 1-2 this year and they become your 2016 QB's. You can use those spots for other positions next year, and can tell a 2017 QB "You'll be our only QB commit in a 2 year cycle".

 

[GBO Vols]

When does he get his rivals bump?

 

[KBVol]

I never got this. The reporters who cover it don't even see the actual practices yet some act like they know everything that goes on in practice.

The former players like Ainge, Swain and Treece are allowed to stay and watch all of practice which includes the times that are off-limits to the reporters/beat writers. Therefore, I put a lot of stock into their comments and opinions.

 

[LouderVol]

The former players like Ainge, Swain and Treece are allowed to stay and watch all of practice which includes the times that are off-limits to the reporters/beat writers. Therefore, I put a lot of stock into their comments and opinions.

But to be honest when Riley was here in the spring Ainge in particular was talking him up, then once Riley left Ainge started backtracking and mentioning all of his problems. Even though they get more info they are still reporters who get paid to sell and people only buy what they want to hear. So I don't put that much more belief in them

 

[DaddyChad]

When does he get his rivals bump?

They would have to actually evaluate him first.