'16 AL WR Velus Jones (Transfer)

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volssam said:
Sooner or later
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DiderotsGhost said:
So you're arguing that no top WR should come to Tennessee because Dobbs' stats weren't as good as the 2nd best Quarterback in the country and the man who finished 4th in the Heisman voting? By that standard, no WR should even consider 126 out of the 128 schools in FBS football. The only schools they should consider would be Clemson and Oklahoma.

Smart recruits (e.g. recruits who think more rationally than you) look at the big picture. They ask what is the program's future? What QB will I likely be working with? How do I get along with the coaching staff? Can this school compete at a high level?

Even if you're going to look at Dobbs' stats, you might put them into some context. He was the 4th best QB in the SEC this season and his passing stats were certainly in the top half of the league. Worth noting that 2 of the 3 QBs ahead of him were graduating Seniors, as well. Dobbs certainly needs to improve on his deep and intermediate passes, but sort of silly to act like he's some scrub.
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Ummmm, no. Thought I made it very clear, that's not what I'm saying at all. Tennessee would be a great decision /destination for Jones. But Velus is said to be choosing between Tennessee and Oklahoma. One team throws the ball very, very well....the other, not so much. So, using very simple deductive reasoning and just a smidge of common sense, I'm saying that if all things are equal, where would you go as a top flight wide receiver if those were your 2 choices?

I don't think Dobbs is a scrub at all. I think he's an outstanding playmaker and an average to above average passer at QB who certainly has room for improving his overall accuracy. My statements were more an indictment of the passing game as a whole, from the overall philosophy and scheme of a very conservative spread offense that supposedly needs 9-10 guys rotating between throwing horizontal WR screens 75% of the time and rarely ever looking to stretch the field.....to a subpar, borderline incompetent WR coach/passing coordinator who has struggled teaching elite athletes how to get off press coverage and gain any meaningful separation.

As far as the questions you listed that the WRs would ask, I think you're absolutely right. Those are the correct questions to ask. And both programs can answer those questions favorably.

Now, put yourself in the prospective WR's shoes, and answer those questions with regards to the situations at both Oklahoma and Tennessee.....with one coaching staff gladly, willingly helping you with comparisons between their program the other one you're choosing. And it's guaranteed they're showing you this comparison of the top 4 wIde receivers for each team this season....

Tennessee 101 catches, 1214 yds, 9 tds
Oklahoma 179 catches, 2579 yds, 19 tds

You're a stud, hotshot young WR who wants to make plays at a top flight collegiate program that can get you ready for and into the league....what would you do with those circumstances?
 
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I want him here in orange and I do think they address our passing game issues this off season scheme and coaching. However your points are valid. It really boils down to whichave school he likes best
 
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If not throwing the ball enough is a serious concern, one only need remind Mr. Velus Jones that Josh Dobbs is a senior. As in, he'll be gone in 2017, and either Dormady or Guarantano will take over, each of which will be a more prolific passer. If Velus is specifically looking for an All-Star freshman season, it may be tough for the Vols. Otherwise, I've no reason to think the Tennessee offense shape itself to its players' skillsets.
 
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drvenner said:
It can be, but I am not sure that Jones or Dormady's passing would be enough of an upgrade to compensate for the loss of Dobbs' running.
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More than compensate with his lost yards passing...lot left on the field this year.
 
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I would think if he was going to Oklahoma why postpone the announcement? Surely this is a good sign since all indication was that we were going to miss out on him. Or maybe Butch begged him to wait as VolNation can't take more bad news jk
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Dobbs. Like him or not, but we don't make a bowl last year without him, and we don't go 8-4 this year without him.
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Is it your opinion that Dobb's will improve as a passer? Because if he doesn't I don't see how we will win the East. Teams will be able to stack the box, and force him to throw. Yes he helped us last year and year before last, but we really didn't have a choice. We have choices now. We have to do what is best for Tennessee football.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Is it your opinion that Dobb's will improve as a passer? Because if he doesn't I don't see how we will win the East. Teams will be able to stack the box, and force him to throw. Yes he helped us last year and year before last, but we really didn't have a choice. We have choices now. We have to do what is best for Tennessee football.
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I'd expect him to improve and I'd expect his WRs to get better too.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I'd expect him to improve and I'd expect his WRs to get better too.
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How much better can they get. He needs to work on hitting them in stride first. I mean when is the last time a receiver was hit in stride for a TD? The bowl game last year? A RB threw that pass.
 
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