'16 OH OT Nathan Niehaus (UT Commit 1/1/16)

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Didn't Pfort actually come out and say he would be shocked if this kid wasn't a Vol? Not even bothering with code talk tells me this is done. And I think GFW is on the money when he says late offers are going to roll in on this young man.
 
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No matter his ranking, this kid has the frame and the upside you look for in an OT. If he's the type of kid who is willing to get in the weight room and work his tail off developing for the next 2-3 years, I'd welcome him as a part of this class.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
No matter his ranking, this kid has the frame and the upside you look for in an OT. If he's the type of kid who is willing to get in the weight room and work his tail off developing for the next 2-3 years, I'd welcome him as a part of this class.
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We are not in the position at T spot for projects
 
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Well Kendrick can play both tackles. Blair. Hall will be a sophomore, Richmond RS freshman, Ryan Johnson Freshman. And of course Thomas can play if need. So that's 6 options at tackle. We can afford a project if he's expected to pan out.
 
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Biopsyman said:
We are not in the position at T spot for projects
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A WVU offer and significant Buckeye interest means he's not a project, more like a late bloomer. We aren't in on anyone who would be starting at tackle as A True Frosh. This guy looks to be a solid prospect after a year in the program.
 
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I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Right.. And what is behind them is the point
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In 2016? Right now it's looking like our two deep will consist of some mixture of Kendrick, Richmond, Hall, Blair, Johnson, and whoever else we sign at OT.


We should be perfectly fine bringing in a developmental guy or two at OT this year. Worst case scenario, we can move a Coleman Thomas who has much more SEC experience out to RT if we have 3-4 guys go down.

Edit: also, what are you getting at? Do you think we'd be better off taking no one else if we miss out on our other OL prospects? IMO even if we don't have room for a developmental kid at OT, we're much better off taking one to go along with Johnson than only taking one OL this year.
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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Well said.
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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Good post.Spot on
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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Hear hear.
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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True.
 
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unioncityvol said:
Well Kendrick can play both tackles. Blair. Hall will be a sophomore, Richmond RS freshman, Ryan Johnson Freshman. And of course Thomas can play if need. So that's 6 options at tackle. We can afford a project if he's expected to pan out.
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1) Kendrick
2) Blair
3) Hall
4) Johnson
5) Thomas

6 options? Kendrick can't play LT & RT at same time
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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That's why being a EE is important if you are planning on playing your freshmen year look at Hall and Jones both EE, the time fall rolls around done been through 15 spring practice's summer workouts so you get a major jump on the other Freshmen on the good side we did redshirt some very top recruits that will add talent and depth to the 2 deep in 16, we are well on our way to becoming elite in the rugged SEC.:good!:
 
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ajvol01 said:
1) Kendrick
2) Blair
3) Hall
4) Johnson
5) Thomas

6 options? Kendrick can't play LT & RT at same time
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The concenus is that Balir can't play either .. The larger pint. Is wih ether we have 4 llegiamte tackles on the roster next year that can play without taking someone out of the starting position Thimas in this case moving happen.. We have a lot of guards and not a lot tackles
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I feel like we UT fans are becoming dangerously delusional with respect to recruiting, particularly with the OL. The OL positions, in particular, are not accurately ranked by the recruiting sites. Taking our OL class from last year, for example. Hall, the lowest ranked OL recruit, was the most ready to contribute and he started games due to injury. Jones also contributed whereas Richmond, our highest ranked OL, redshirted. This does not mean that Richmond will not be our best OL from the class just that the rankings are generally harder to predict with respect to OLs, including readiness to contribute.

Plus, most OLs are developmental positions and that includes OLs who ultimately play in the NFL. So, for every Cam Robinson and Laremy Tunsil (who defy the typical progression for OLs) there are dozens of OLs who redshirt and/or don't play early but then end up being NFL players, even elite NFL players.

What does this mean for Niehaus? Maybe nothing but he seems to have the tools and temperament to be a very good OL player. The interest and offers he is receiving is more indicative of his potential than his ranking. Also, rankings, unlike for skill players, are much less meaningful. Here, Niehaus is getting offers from elite programs, which outstrips his current ranking, and I think his trajectory is promising. Finally, UT is in a good spot with OL recruiting. Right now, Johnson is a very solid prospect. Stewart, if he gets on campus, is another very solid prospect. We are in on Dickerson and he is, seemingly, an elite OL prospect. And, Niehaus looks like a good prospect who could contribute along the typical OL progression. All in all, we are in a good spot and the fans who expect every OL prospect to be a top 250 player will be bitterly disappointed. Just remember that Bama, which routinely has an elite OL, frequently recruits 3* alongside 5* and 4* players and the 3* end up being very good players.
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Hardest position to project and rank
 
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“It was great. I feel like everything exceeded what I expected. It was a pleasant surprise,” said Niehaus, who’s ranked the nation’s No. 94 offensive tackle in the 247Sports Composite for the 2016 class. “I just really expected an average SEC team. But I feel like, when I came out, I just (liked) everything about it — the way the coaches handled their players, the way they handled the recruits even, the way Coach (Butch) Jones was talking with me a lot. That just exceeded what I thought it would be, and it was a pleasant surprise.”

“I’m thinking I might (visit) Cincinnati,” Niehaus said. “But, I mean, I’ve already been down to Cincinnati so much, and I’ve been around their players so much with my brother.

“Ohio State’s been my dream school, like, my whole life, really. If they were to make an offer, it would kind of put some pressure on me. But that’s when it would come down to where I would have the best environment. That’s when I would compare the coaches and stuff, instead of just actual football, because the football is about right there.”

“What I really like about them is they’re really personal,” Niehaus said. “They’re a lot more personal than some people I’ve come across, and (I like) the way they just talk with my parents and talk with me, and how they are as people. Coach Jones, he was just saying, ‘We want you, and it’s a great place for you here.’ It wasn’t any pressure at all. He didn’t pressure me or push down on me, which is what I really liked about it. He was just more relaxed and friendly about it, about saying, ‘Hey, we’ve got a place for you here, and if you don’t choose us, then that’s your choice. But if you do, that’s great.’ That’s the kind of characteristic of a coach that I really like.”

That’s one of the main things I’ve been thinking about,” Niehaus said. “When I started talking to Tennessee, that was the first thing that popped in my mind — like, ‘Hey, Grandma and Grandpa are going to be right down the street.’ It would be just like my brother at Cincinnati, how he can just come home whenever he wants. That’s just what came to my mind as soon as I thought Tennessee.”
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tOSU could be a major player in this one.
 
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Biopsyman said:
The concenus is that Balir can't play either .. The larger pint. Is wih ether we have 4 llegiamte tackles on the roster next year that can play without taking someone out of the starting position Thimas in this case moving happen.. We have a lot of guards and not a lot tackles
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Pedigo'ish.
 
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