'17 Class discussion (split)

#52
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Eastsidevol said:
Wish I could find something funny but this is the type of class that won't rank in the top 25 on signing day. Mark it down, we just jumped the shark today. Coming from a lifelong fan and alum.
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Oh wow...this guy is a fan AND alum? That argument won me over. Cancel the season, guy!
 
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#53
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Smokey123 said:
Nope. Only 1 team since the start of 2000 has won a natty with signing less than 2 top 10 classes in the prior 4 years.
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I think that says everything we need to know. We are on the way back down if Butch does not start to recapture some of that old recruiting magic.
 
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#54
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Also from Wes:

"Quick note: A three-star to analysts might not be a three-star to the coaches who want them. There’s always a reason coaches want them."
 
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HoptownVol said:
No they wont. And please name all these "NFL Scouts" Butch has watching tape.
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Yes they will. Fant was a 4* untill he got injured. He'll be be a 4* after his senior year. Henderson, Membry, Fant, Labuzza, Will al recieve bumps. Wes Rucker and a few others have said they have former nfl guys helping scout. I'll take their word over a bunch of negavols. Not to mention cbj has proven he's one of the best at finding great 3*'s. Kelly, Vereen, Smith, Coleman, Robertson, Sutton, Weisman(idk of he was a CBJ recruit tho), Wolf, Hall, Williams, Smith, I believe Martin was, Those are some off the top of my head
 
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#56
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Eastsidevol said:
I think that says everything we need to know. We are on the way back down if Butch does not start to recapture some of that old recruiting magic.
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Tennessee has had 2 top 10 classes in the past 4 years.... This year will be top 10 too. You must not follow recruiting much, or at least not know how it works.
 
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Let's not act like Butch won't replace a guy down the road with someone better if he has the opportunity.

And let's just just agree to disagree with the ethics behind that policy.
 
#59
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Smokey123 said:
Yes they will. Fant was a 4* untill he got injured. He'll be be a 4* after his senior year. Henderson, Membry, Fant, Labuzza, Will al recieve bumps. Wes Rucker and a few others have said they have former nfl guys helping scout. I'll take their word over a bunch of negavols. Not to mention cbj has proven he's one of the best at finding great 3*'s. Kelly, Vereen, Smith, Coleman, Robertson, Sutton, Weisman(idk of he was a CBJ recruit tho), Wolf, Hall, Williams, Smith, I believe Martin was, Those are some off the top of my head
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The comment I replied to stated "half these guys will get a bump" and that is just plain delusional. You list 4 guys, thats not "half the class."

And I want to know who all these NFL scouts are? Simple question, shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
 
#62
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Eastsidevol said:
I have to agree that Gray is the only recruit I am impressed with so far. This was a great year in-state and right now we are coming up short. Today set us up for a mediocre class, even if we land some bigger names down the road. I look at the offer lists of some of the guys we are getting and it just makes me shake my head. I love Butch but it seems like he is really reaching on some of these guys.
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Lol. It's been the same MO the last 3 years. Surely you can find something else to complain about. Not sure if you are trolling or just don't understand.
 
#63
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HoptownVol said:
The comment I replied to stated "half these guys will get a bump" and that is just plain delusional. You list 4 guys, thats not "half the class."

And I want to know who all these NFL scouts are? Simple question, shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
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Some of these guys over here don't know you. While I don't always agree with you< I can say this. Most of the time i think you state/or ask questions in a very logical manner. This is one of those times.

I actually think I remember something being said about former NFL scouts on our staff, but I truly can'y remember where, so I'm curious to hear this too.
 
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HoptownVol said:
The comment I replied to stated "half these guys will get a bump" and that is just plain delusional. You list 4 guys, thats not "half the class."

And I want to know who all these NFL scouts are? Simple question, shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
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Ask Wes Rucker. He's the one who has said it. And a few others did too. I'm sure he didn't just make it up. Besides, CBJ has proven he can find great 3*'s. You're just a negavol star gazer, so I'm not surprised the way you're acting. Even Vol30 isn't complaining lol
 
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BaldBiker said:
Some of these guys over here don't know you. While I don't always agree with you< I can say this. Most of the time i think you state/or ask questions in a very logical manner. This is one of those times.

I actually think I remember something being said about former NFL scouts on our staff, but I truly can'y remember where, so I'm curious to hear this too.
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Wes Rucker said it
 
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Smokey123 said:
Tennessee has had 2 top 10 classes in the past 4 years.... This year will be top 10 too. You must not follow recruiting much, or at least not know how it works.
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Yes, Butch did well in the past but he fell off last year to #15 and he is looking even worse this year. Just think we are headed in the wrong direction. Don't see how we are top 10 with all these 3 stars.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Ask Wes Rucker. He's the one who has said it. And a few others did too. I'm sure he didn't just make it up. Besides, CBJ has proven he can find great 3*'s. You're just a negavol star gazer, so I'm not surprised the way you're acting. Even Vol30 isn't complaining lol
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I don't have to ask Rucker, I already know who they are. And the funny thing is, you don't! LOL
 
#70
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Eastsidevol said:
Yes, Butch did well in the past but he fell off last year to #15 and he is looking even worse this year. Just think we are headed in the wrong direction. Don't see how we are top 10 with all these 3 stars.
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This will be a top 10 class. Relax. Seriously.
 
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Eastsidevol said:
Yes, Butch did well in the past but he fell off last year to #15 and he is looking even worse this year. Just think we are headed in the wrong direction. Don't see how we are top 10 with all these 3 stars.
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He didn't fall off last year at all lol. He signed less players, he had the highest average * ranking he's had while he's been here. You don't know what you're talking about, it's kinda funny
 
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#73
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Bigworm87 said:
Half of these guys will get bumps throughout the season. People need to understand that Butch has former NFL scouts working up there viewing tape on kids. I'll trust their decision making. Also, most of these high 4 stars and 5 stars won't start committing for a while. They're enjoying the process, as they should.
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plus we will cull what we dont want.
 
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