'17 GA CB/WR Jamyest Williams (S. Carolina commit)

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RiseToTheTop said:
Who are they gonna beat? They are terrible offensively and can't stop a high school team from running on them. Vandy may be a 5-6 win team at best and they will beat Carolina.
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I'll admit I don't know who they lost off the roster from last year. They were a team we just barely beat with us having much more talent. I usually don't just bank on Vandy beating anyone.
 
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SSVol said:
That doesn't surprise me, somewhat like the difference between the credit rating you see and the one the car dealer sees. But I was referring to the program's stated position that they do not use any service outside of their own internal one. If that is in fact not coach speak, then any rating given by a service (for consumers, or teams that use them) is really not useful for us to evaluate how the staff feels they are doing, only how the services feel they are doing. And if there is a disconnect between how the staff feels they are doing (staff thinks they've landed 5*) and how the services suggest they are doing (service thinks they're actually 3*), we really won't know who was right until those players have 2-3 years to develop and work their way into the starting lineup.

The point remains though: we have zero insight into how the staff rates, therefore we have zero insight into how well they feel they are doing. They may feel they have landed a bunch of future AAs and are giddy over the fact that nobody else figured it out, while VN is anguished over the apparent breakdown.
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I suspect that he is referring to one of the consultants I mentioned.

No big program HC really cares what Rivals, Scout, or 247 says except for publicity.

That said.... the kids who get 5* from the public sites are generally well regarded by everyone.

We have some insight... not as much as we probably like to pretend at times.... but some.

Even the "I look at offer lists" response has holes. On rare occasion, a player really will fit a narrow niche for one program but very few others.
 
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#131
CrunchingTheVolz said:
I'll admit I don't know who they lost off the roster from last year. They were a team we just barely beat with us having much more talent. I usually don't just bank on Vandy beating anyone.
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They lost all the most skilled players they had on offense. Few guys here and there on defense. I mean you can try to argue if you want. Just watch. They'll be horrendous. Get back to me then. Well Vandy isn't good but they have a much better defense than Carolina and Carolina won't stop the run. They'll edge Carolina out.
 
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sjt18 said:
I REALLY want to believe that recruits won't buy Muschamp.....
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Muschamp won't win big at USC (his peak will be an 8 win season), but the staff he assembled is built to recruit so get used to them pulling decent classes while he is in Columbia
 
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sjt18 said:
I REALLY want to believe that recruits won't buy Muschamp.....
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He'll improve some, but Butch's 5 and Chump's n really aren't the same. Butch won everywhere before, Chump stunk it up with UF level talent, which he'll never have at USCe.
 
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They are going to be UF lite under Muschamp. He had a great defense at UF, South Carolina is going to be good there but not at the UF level. The recruiting is no where close to the same.

Offense is probably going to be worse than it was at UF.

I'm surprised he is not recruiting better than he is. He should be closer to where CBJ was his first year and it isn't close. He has playing time to sell in droves and they just have 3 or 4 great recruits right now, the rest are mediocre.
 
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snowvols said:
They are going to be UF lite under Muschamp. He had a great defense at UF, South Carolina is going to be good there but not at the UF level. The recruiting is no where close to the same.

Offense is probably going to be worse than it was at UF.

I'm surprised he is not recruiting better than he is. He should be closer to where CBJ was his first year and it isn't close. He has playing time to sell in droves and they just have 3 or 4 great recruits right now, the rest are mediocre.
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Hes recruited much better than I thought he would/should
 
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Catbone said:
Hes recruited much better than I thought he would/should
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I thought he would do well with defensive recruits. I think he has 3 four stars right now on that side of the ball. He gets defensive guys into the NFL.

His recruiting on the offensive side of the ball is garbage and will continue to be. He can even sell being an instant starter and kids aren't really buying.
 
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