'17 SC DE Tre Lawson (FORMER UT commit 6/18/16)

#155
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glichtenwalter said:
The problem is we don't get to hear from the coaches when commits happen. How often has Butch dropped a kid when he has tweeted something good cryptic after a commitment. It's almost always the ones that come out of the blue and we never hear about how "Coach Jones said I made his day" or see a "#EL17E" tweet from Butch that get dropped later. So who is to say his commitment was ever really official in the first place. I don't doubt that some kids have been dropped and maybe some were done wrong in one way or another. The problem is we never know the whole story so dumping on the coaching staff is a little unfair. Those coaches spend hundreds and thousands of hours building relationships with these kids. That is something most of us will never understand.
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Yea...just tired of worshipers jumping fans that criticize coaches.taking certain commits. Fans see things differently and have differ opinions. The worshipers are silent when coaches ignore their lesser commits. Worshipers are loud when their is criticism of coaches taking lesser talent commits. Hypocritical
 
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#156
#156
Name one CBJ worshiper in the RF. Seriously, name one that truly worships CBJ. Opinions on CBJ vary a great deal in the RF, but I can honestly say I don't think anyone here blindly worships him. He's got a lot of mistakes to fix and I think most if not all agree on that.

There is a huge difference in worshiping Butch and arguing the stupidity of someones (not saying you, just a lot of what gets read in here) post/opinion.
 
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butchna said:
Just keep calling posters who still reserve final judgement, but support the coach while he still holds that title "worshippers". Better than having a coherent point. :)
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We should have gave Dooley more time huh? Should have gave him more time to fix this thing lol
 
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BaldBiker said:
Name one CBJ worshiper in the RF. Seriously, name one that truly worships CBJ. Opinions on CBJ vary a great deal in the RF, but I can honestly say I don't think anyone here blindly worships him. He's got a lot of mistakes to fix and I think most if not all agree on that.

There is a huge difference in worshiping Butch and arguing the stupidity of someones (not saying you, just a lot of what gets read in here) post/opinion.
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The ones that bash fans for criticizing coaches taking lesser talent commits. Go back and look in these 2/3* threads and you will see who
 
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jbr82 said:
We should have gave Dooley more time huh? Should have gave him more time to fix this thing lol
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What does deflecting to a 5 win coach who was a marginal recruiter have to do with the post you quoted other than proving his point about not having a coherent thought?
 
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My thing is......ppl take side of coaches.taking commits of lesser talent and calls out the critical fan.......

and are silent when coaches ignore these same cruits or give them "git shirts"

That is hypocritical imo


That's my point

Ppl are quick to blame a fan but not the one gettin paid millions. Lol silly
 
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#161
It is ok to criticize coaches but CBJ is still the coach. You either want him to win or want him to lose. He coaches them Vols, so I want him to win. I don't care if he spouts cliches and coachspeak until the fans' heads explode. I want him to win until the day he is no longer the coach.
 
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jbr82 said:
We should have gave Dooley more time huh? Should have gave him more time to fix this thing lol
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When Dooley was let go, the consensus was ready for the change. The fans that reserved judgement were right at the exact same time as the ones who wanted him fired from the beginning...no extra credit for you guys. :nono:
 
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jbr82 said:
My thing is......ppl take side of coaches.taking commits of lesser talent and calls out the critical fan.......

and are silent when coaches ignore these same cruits or give them "git shirts"

That is hypocritical imo


That's my point

Ppl are quick to blame a fan but not the one gettin paid millions. Lol silly
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So fans that criticize the coach have thin skins? :)
 
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butchna said:
When Dooley was let go, the consensus was ready for the change. The fans that reserved judgement were right at the exact same time as the ones who wanted him fired from the beginning...no extra credit for you guys. :nono:
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"I wanted him fired before he was hired so I'm a better fan than you."

Lol.
 
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jbr82 said:
The ones that bash fans for criticizing coaches taking lesser talent commits. Go back and look in these 2/3* threads and you will see who
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It goes beyond criticizing. It's a monotonous drone in multiple threads that tends to get personal towards high school kids. Why would anybody get tired of it? :dunno:
 
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glichtenwalter said:
It is ok to criticize coaches but CBJ is still the coach. You either want him to win or want him to lose. He coaches them Vols, so I want him to win. I don't care if he spouts cliches and coachspeak until the fans' heads explode. I want him to win until the day he is no longer the coach.
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When ppl criticize coach for takin less talent...ppl bash fans.

When coach ignores these same cruits....ppl that bashed "negas".....are silent


Why?
 
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jbr82 said:
The ones that bash fans for criticizing coaches taking lesser talent commits. Go back and look in these 2/3* threads and you will see who
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I read about 90% of the recruit threads (probably less since the influx of TonyB's threads) and will say IMO most of the bashing that goes on is due to the stupidness of what an individual is saying, not that they are criticizing the coaches. Starting a post off with such gems as 3* U is asking for negative attention.

I think pretty much everyone in the RF has criticized the coaches (myself included) in some way or another. It's how you do it that causes backlash instead of discussion.

Once again...I don't know if you are one of the ones that feels they get bashed or you're just taking up for them.

My suggestion to whoever it is...try thinking before you post. We actually love good discussion over here and would love for there to be more of it, but don't come in here spewing nonsense and expect it to turn into good discussion.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I read about 90% of the recruit threads (probably less since the influx of TonyB's threads) and will say IMO most of the bashing that goes on is due to the stupidness of what an individual is saying, not that they are criticizing the coaches. Starting a post off with such gems as 3* U is asking for negative attention.

I think pretty much everyone in the RF has criticized the coaches (myself included) in some way or another. It's how you do it that causes backlash instead of discussion.

Once again...I don't know if you are one of the ones that feels they get bashed or you're just taking up for them.

My suggestion to whoever it is...try thinking before you post. We actually love good discussion over here and would love for there to be more of it, but don't come in here spewing nonsense and expect it to turn into good discussion.
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If my post don't concern you then why bother?
 
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BaldBiker said:
I read about 90% of the recruit threads (probably less since the influx of TonyB's threads) and will say IMO most of the bashing that goes on is due to the stupidness of what an individual is saying, not that they are criticizing the coaches. Starting a post off with such gems as 3* U is asking for negative attention.

I think pretty much everyone in the RF has criticized the coaches (myself included) in some way or another. It's how you do it that causes backlash instead of discussion.

Once again...I don't know if you are one of the ones that feels they get bashed or you're just taking up for them.

My suggestion to whoever it is...try thinking before you post. We actually love good discussion over here and would love for there to be more of it, but don't come in here spewing nonsense and expect it to turn into good discussion.
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Also should coach ignoring cruits get as much bashing as some message board dude saying "3* U"?

Lol I see hypocrisy
 
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jbr82 said:
Or fans that criticize fans that criticize coach haha
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Couldn't care less about criticizing Butch. Good friends with KB and Wylo on here...they ain't shy. It's the ones that drone on and on about how our class sucks in April and declare that our classes in 2018 and 2019 are already doomed that gets a little tiresome. This misery used to mingle in the FF. Now they outsource. :)
 
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jbr82 said:
Also should coach ignoring cruits get as much bashing as some message board dude saying "3* U"?

Lol I see hypocrisy
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I see hyperbole and thin skin with the "bashing". Seems guys want clever points without delivering the goods. :lol:
 
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