'17 TN ATH Jacoby Stevens (LSU commit)

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KBVol said:
You once declared Guarantano had elite speed, faster than Dobbs when you saw him outrun a bunch of high school kids....... agenda much?
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Consistency isn't a vital part of his scouting process. :lol: I think he was an honest poster back then. This crap lately is pure schtick.
 
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KBVol said:
You once declared Guarantano had elite speed, faster than Dobbs when you saw him outrun a bunch of high school kids on film....... why doesn't the same apply to Stevens?
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Cause Guarantano showed a pop that Jacoby doesn't.

I don't know why yall act this way. I would assume its easy to see there is a difference in speed when a guy like Javonta Payton runs versus Jacoby Stevens.

Its just obvious.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Cause Guarantano showed a pop that Jacoby doesn't.

I don't know why yall act this way. I would assume its easy to see there is a difference in speed when a guy like Javonta Payton runs versus Jacoby Stevens.

Its just obvious.
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Just curious, did you play varsity football in high school?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He didn't have a bad game. I never said that. In fact I would say he was the most DOMINANT player out there. But that doesn't matter. This is high school. 99% of the kids on that field will never play past that point. Dominating a high school game is meaningless.

What I try to look for when watching a kid play high school competition is TRANSFERABLE SKILLS. Is what he's doing out there going to translate to the next level? I personally just don't see it with Jacoby. He lacks the EXPLOSIVENESS to be elite at the SEC level. IMO he looks like a SLOW plodding athlete. Not suited for a position like DB or WR. Compared to average high school kids, it doesn't matter. Against SEC level competition, he'll get exposed.

Javonta Payton, however, did show a transferable skill. His ELITE EXPLOSIVENESS. The kid has incredible speed, acceleration, and agility. Along with a nice frame that you could develop. Unlike Jacoby who looks fully developed and is probably closer to his ceiling, Payton has a ways to go to fill his frame out which leads me to believe he has an even higher ceiling.

IMO Javonta Payton has the potential to be a slightly shorter Justin Hunter.
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Fair points.

If you ask me though, Oliver was the best player on the field last night. Dude has a nose for the ball.

Payton would be very successful in UT orange and IMO will be a vol
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Fair points.

If you ask me though, Oliver was the best player on the field last night. Dude has a nose for the ball.

Payton would be very successful in UT orange and IMO will be a vol
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Was impressed with him also. Seems like he's limited only by the means of getting him the ball.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Cause Guarantano showed a pop that Jacoby doesn't.

I don't know why yall act this way. I would assume its easy to see there is a difference in speed when a guy like Javonta Payton runs versus Jacoby Stevens.

Its just obvious.
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Lol.

So Jarrett showed "a pop" vs his highschool kids who are 5'10 and run 5.5 but Jacoby didn't against his highschool players who are 5'10 and run 5.5......even though the result was the same. You're too much.
 
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KBVol said:
Lol.

So Jarrett showed "a pop" vs his highschool kids who are 5'10 and run 5.5 but Jacoby didn't against his highschool players who are 5'10 and run 5.5......even though the result was the same. You're too much.
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Jarrett plays at an elite high school and against elite talent. When he scorched IMG he effectively became a 5* to me.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
As unimpressive as the first time I saw his highlight mix.

I will never understand how this kid is rated as a 5 star prospect. He's not explosive at all.

Javonta Payton looks so much better than him on ESPNU right now.
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You don't think he's impressive and then say our staff is smarter than the services. Our staff recruited him hard and would take him tomorrow so you're actually disagreeing with the staff.
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Fair points.

If you ask me though, Oliver was the best player on the field last night. Dude has a nose for the ball.

Payton would be very successful in UT orange and IMO will be a vol
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Agree on Oliver. He was all over the field and always around the ball. Think MSU is getting a good one there.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I hope you know this happens every year. 5 star recruits ALWAYS bust.

It would not be unusual for all those teams to miss on a prospect. See Byron Cowart. The former #1 overall recruit that can't see the field at Auburn.
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Stevens hasn't played a down yet, how's he a bust?

Cowart? He played in all 13 games as a true FR, how's that not seeing the field? You declaring a true SO a bust, with that SO year still to come is laughable.

Yes, there are over-evaluations time to time but few are predictable or staffs wouldn't jump in. I think you're the only one who believes you actually see a recruit for his true colors while 37 staffs are wrong.
 
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KBVol said:
Lol.

So Jarrett showed "a pop" vs his highschool kids who are 5'10 and run 5.5 but Jacoby didn't against his highschool players who are 5'10 and run 5.5......even though the result was the same. You're too much.
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KB its no need to argue he's not a UT recruit so he stinks is over rated and didn't impact the game lolllllll 😂😂😂😂😂😂 4 catces 92 yds 2 tds and 2 ints who knows tkls etc but last wk many were praising 5 catches for 87 yds and no tds. Wow I'm done seking logic here
 
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de1conley said:
KB its no need to argue he's not a UT recruit so he stinks is over rated and didn't impact the game lolllllll 😂😂😂😂😂😂 4 catces 92 yds 2 tds and 2 ints who knows tkls etc but last wk many were praising 5 catches for 87 yds and no tds. Wow I'm done seking logic here
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U think Spiller will be All Pro or nah
 
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de1conley said:
KB its no need to argue he's not a UT recruit so he stinks is over rated and didn't impact the game lolllllll 😂😂😂😂😂😂 4 catces 92 yds 2 tds and 2 ints who knows tkls etc but last wk many were praising 5 catches for 87 yds and no tds. Wow I'm done seking logic here
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Yeah because all you do is bring logic to the board :birgits_giggle:
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Stevens hasn't played a down yet, how's he a bust?

Cowart? He played in all 13 games as a true FR, how's that not seeing the field? You declaring a true SO a bust, with that SO year still to come is laughable.

Yes, there are over-evaluations time to time but few are predictable or staffs wouldn't jump in. I think you're the only one who believes you actually see a recruit for his true colors while 37 staffs are wrong.
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You must not follow Auburn.

Byron Cowart was getting dominated by walk-ons last year in practice. Here's his own coach saying so: Auburn DL Byron Cowart goes from feared to intimidated and back again | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer

When your own teammates are mocking your 5 star status and walk-ons are having goes at you, you're a BUST.

And FYI, he had only 6 tackles last year. Not 6 tfls mind you but total tackles. So don't give me any crap about him playing in 13 games.

He's also already been passed up by TRUE FRESHMAN Marlon Davidson for the starting defensive end position this year. Cowart is doing no better than 2nd string right now behind a TRUE FRESHMAN.
 
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Another 5 star coaches and recruiting services are fawning over that will be a BUST is Dylan Moses.

Finally got to see him play in the IMG vs Grayson game. And my god does he look terrible. Real talk, take everything I've said about Jacoby Stevens and multiply it by a thousand. The kid is so SLOW. So UNATHLETIC. Poor instincts. Poor shape. And worst of all poor effort.

I've got to apologize to Jacoby Stevens. Compared to Dylan Moses he's a future NFL superstar.
 
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You have missed your calling in life. If you can predict how all these recruits will pan out and know more than 100% of the coaches and recruiting experts, then you would be a millionaire.

Dude please for you and your family quit your job and start your own company.
 
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