'17 TN OL/DT Trey Smith (UT commit 12/6/2016)

[InVOLuntary]

I wonder if this guy has the personality to be a strong peer recruiter?

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I wonder if this guy has the personality to be a strong peer recruiter?

I don't think you have to have a strong personality to recruit peers if you are the #1 player in that nation on two separate sites :hi:

 

[Probably_in_Class]

Knowing that ESPN typically rates O-line the highest. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cade Mays #1, would be pretty cool to have the #1 player in the country 2 years in a row..... Even if it is on ESPN

And having them both be from TN is cool, too. While it may not be the best scouting source, ESPN is a bigger source for sports coverage than the other sites by a huge margin. Getting the number 1 from ESPN is certainly a big deal from purely a publicity standpoint. ESPN will run a segment about it on Sportscenter. You won't see that for the #1 on 24/7 or Rivals, and ESPN gets WAY more eyes. Good all around in my opinion.

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

Is Trey still #1 on ESPN? Thought I read somewhere he got bumped down or was about to get bumped. Not that it matters, O-linemen are all sure takes at least 30 guys into the position ranks. Although those top 5 are usually special.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Is Trey still #1 on ESPN? Thought I read somewhere he got bumped down or was about to get bumped. Not that it matters, O-linemen are all sure takes at least 30 guys into the position ranks. Although those top 5 are usually special.

247 bumped him down. ESPN prob won't do another update for awhile

 

[MockingVol]

Is Trey still #1 on ESPN? Thought I read somewhere he got bumped down or was about to get bumped. Not that it matters, O-linemen are all sure takes at least 30 guys into the position ranks. Although those top 5 are usually special.

Trey is still #1.

 

[Rishvol]

He'll be bumped down to at least 15 when he commits to Tennessee.

 

[brentwoodvol23]

Trey Smith is the number 1 player on 2017 espn 300

 

[InVOLuntary]

Trey Smith is the number one ranked player in the 2017 Volnation rankings. Tee Higgins has dropped out of the top 300 though.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't think you have to have a strong personality to recruit peers if you are the #1 player in that nation on two separate sites :hi:

I agree the clout that comes with that has a definite influence. But, the personality thing plays a role too. I remember back when Vic Wharton was a very vocal and effective peer recruiter despite not being that highly rated.

 

[Evol]

No need to stress over Trey no more for me. As far as I'm concerned he's committed, time now to sit back and drink some coffee.

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[butchna]

He'll be bumped down to at least 15 when he commits to Tennessee.

15th OT you mean. :glare:

 

[BruinVol]

Trey Smith is the number one ranked player in the 2017 Volnation rankings. Tee Higgins has dropped out of the top 300 though.

PotD

 

[InVOLuntary]

PotD

:hi:

 

[Vol464]

If a coach wasted my time telling me how another school was overrated or couldnt win big games i would have little time for that coach.

Yes, but you are a semi-mature adult, not a 17 year old kid.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

And having them both be from TN is cool, too. While it may not be the best scouting source, ESPN is a bigger source for sports coverage than the other sites by a huge margin. Getting the number 1 from ESPN is certainly a big deal from purely a publicity standpoint. ESPN will run a segment about it on Sportscenter. You won't see that for the #1 on 24/7 or Rivals, and ESPN gets WAY more eyes. Good all around in my opinion.

I disagree. No scouting service is perfect but imo ESPN is the best at rating players.

The have an actual NFL talent evaluator break down the film and help rate players. They mainly rank guys based on their film and performance at the all-american games. They don't just rate guys based on performances in shorts at their camps.

I personally find ESPN to be the best at the scouting.

 

[tonybologna]

I disagree. No scouting service is perfect but imo ESPN is the best at rating players.

The have an actual NFL talent evaluator break down the film and help rate players. They mainly rank guys based on their film and performance at the all-american games. They don't just rate guys based on performances in shorts at their camps.

I personally find ESPN to be the best at the scouting.

ESPN #1 for recruiting? No way D4H! You know 95%+ here at VN know that 247 Sports composite is the only source that you can say that's reliable, truthful, & trustworthy.

 

[SteelerVol]

Trey Smith is the number 1 player on 2017 espn 300

They're just trying to slither their way onto the Vol bandwagon.

 

[Kristy*]

ESPN #1 for recruiting? No way D4H! You know 95%+ here at VN know that 247 Sports composite is the only source that you can say that's reliable, truthful, & trustworthy.

Man Tony, when you're convinced, you're an advocate.

 

[tonybologna]

Man Tony, when you're convinced, you're an advocate.

Kristy, I'm not the only one on here that's a serious advocate for 247 Sports either. Just keep watching for other posters in the recruiting section & you will see. ESPN isn't bad. Rivals & Scout aren't bad. It's just that 247 Sports is the "most" reliable source of them all.

 

[CrunchingTheVolz]

Kristy, I'm not the only one on here that's a serious advocate for 247 Sports either. Just keep watching for other posters in the recruiting section & you will see. ESPN isn't bad. Rivals & Scout aren't bad. It's just that 247 Sports is the "most" reliable source of them all.

I won't even say 247's rating is best. 247's rating is separate from the composite. 247 kind of let me down with the quick 300 spot bump for Lewis in about 8 hrs after committing. I don't buy it for a second a staff member stayed up through the night and reevaluated 20-25 QBs to make sure CJ Lewis was accurately ranked. That said, the composite being the average of the 4 major sites seems the most reasonable to me.

 

[tonybologna]

I won't even say 247's rating is best. 247's rating is separate from the composite. 247 kind of let me down with the quick 300 spot bump for Lewis in about 8 hrs after committing. I don't buy it for a second a staff member stayed up through the night and reevaluated 20-25 QBs to make sure CJ Lewis was accurately ranked. That said, the composite being the average of the 4 major sites seems the most reasonable to me.

When I refer to 247 Sports as the best I do mean the composite is what should be used.

 

[Catbone]

Composite is the most accurate, clearly...

 

[MockingVol]

I disagree. No scouting service is perfect but imo ESPN is the best at rating players.

The have an actual NFL talent evaluator break down the film and help rate players. They mainly rank guys based on their film and performance at the all-american games. They don't just rate guys based on performances in shorts at their camps.

I personally find ESPN to be the best at the scouting.

I wouldn't necessarily say that ESPN has the best rankings, but they do a good job with their write ups usually. Scout has also always done a good job with breaking down the targets.

Neither of those sites are my go to for class rankings though. Honestly, the only reason I care about class rank from any site though is for perception. I trust Butch as an evaluator of talent.

 

[benholt06]

I wouldn't necessarily say that ESPN has the best rankings, but they do a good job with their write ups usually. Scout has also always done a good job with breaking down the targets.

Neither of those sites are my go to for class rankings though. Honestly, the only reason I care about class rank from any site though is for perception. I trust Butch as an evaluator of talent.

This.

As much as I've been hanging around this recruiting forum pissing and moaning, it's tough for me to question Butch as a scout.

I'm more concerned with him staying aggressive calling the game. That's why I love the Shoop hire. He's gonna let the dogs out.