'17 TN OT Obinna Eze (Memphis commit)

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SouthKnoxVOL said:
I think it's hilarious how Mahoney gets all the blame when the Oline sucks but when it is good all the praise goes to Debord.
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On the surface of it, it's easy to understand...

-year 1, 2013, we had studs/NFL players all across the OL....it was generally considered that they underachieved....very good pass blocking, not good at all run blocking

-year 2, 2014, OMG. Lotta youth, but they were God awful, looked like an OVC or MAC OL

-year 3, along comes DeBord and the OL, despite having to plug in some true freshmen at times, like the year before, made very big strides on the way to helping set a new school rushing record.

Now, of course there are other factors (eg, Thomas moving to his natural position at center), but on the face of it, it looked like the OL was of nightmarish proportion with Mahoney alone, only to improve greatly with the arrival of DeBord. There's probably a lot of truth to that, even if it's not quite that cut and dry.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Does that mean you tried hard but lost most of his one on one drills?
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KBVol said:
On the surface of it, it's easy to understand...

-year 1, 2013, we had studs/NFL players all across the OL....it was generally considered that they underachieved....very good pass blocking, not good at all run blocking

-year 2, 2014, OMG. Lotta youth, but they were God awful, looked like an OVC or MAC OL

-year 3, along comes DeBord and the OL, despite having to plug in some true freshmen at times, like the year before, made very big strides on the way to helping set a new school rushing record.

Now, of course there are other factors (eg, Thomas moving to his natural position at center), but on the face of it, it looked like the OL was of nightmarish proportion with Mahoney alone, only to improve greatly with the arrival of DeBord. There's probably a lot of truth to that, even if it's not quite that cut and dry.
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I still think that 2013 unit didn't get a fair shake, all things considered. Hindsight being 20/20, with Tiny playing on bum knees they were one of the best pass blocking teams in school history and produced our best ground game since the Fulmer days despite being completely one dimensional (with average at best RB talent) and lacking any true and consistent passing and receiving threats. Fans seemed to hold it against them that they didn't completely take over games and lead us to win more games, but they performed to expectations IMO. If the 2013 team had the offensive skill position talent we have now, they'd set all the rushing records they wanted and fans would be calling them the best in school history. Instead, they took a lot of the blame for the offenses poor talent at skill positions.

Edit: not to mention it was year one in a completely new, up tempo system.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I still think that 2013 unit didn't get a fair shake, all things considered. Hindsight being 20/20, with Tiny playing on bum knees they were one of the best pass blocking teams in school history and produced our best ground game since the Fulmer days despite being completely one dimensional (with average at best RB talent) and lacking any true and consistent passing and receiving threats. Fans seemed to hold it against them that they didn't completely take over games and lead us to win more games, but they performed to expectations IMO. If the 2013 team had the offensive skill position talent we have now, they'd set all the rushing records they wanted and fans would be calling them the best in school history. Instead, they took a lot of the blame for the offenses poor talent at skill positions.

Edit: not to mention it was year one in a completely new, up tempo system.
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They were not groomed for the blocking of this scheme and is not something you learn in one year when it is not what you have been accustomed too.

This was a project of getting the type of players they wanted and working to incorporate it over a few years. Mahoney knows it and how to teach it and it is more of these guys being in the system a few years and having been recruited for it. DeBoard knows it as well. It was good last year and should be a beautiful thing to watch this year and for many years to come.
 
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LittleDTO said:
De1conley

How fast is this kid learning the game and picking up on technique?
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Very fast he works on things 2x a day xuring the summer plus what he has to do at DA. The kid is a relentless worker. He has worked with Tiny Richardson, Bullard, and former Vandy OL Joe Townsend o er the past few months.
 
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de1conley said:
Very fast he works on things 2x a day xuring the summer plus what he has to do at DA. The kid is a relentless worker. He has worked with Tiny Richardson, Bullard, and former Vandy OL Joe Townsend o er the past few months.
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% he will be a vol?
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I still think that 2013 unit didn't get a fair shake, all things considered. Hindsight being 20/20, with Tiny playing on bum knees they were one of the best pass blocking teams in school history and produced our best ground game since the Fulmer days despite being completely one dimensional (with average at best RB talent) and lacking any true and consistent passing and receiving threats. Fans seemed to hold it against them that they didn't completely take over games and lead us to win more games, but they performed to expectations IMO. If the 2013 team had the offensive skill position talent we have now, they'd set all the rushing records they wanted and fans would be calling them the best in school history. Instead, they took a lot of the blame for the offenses poor talent at skill positions.

Edit: not to mention it was year one in a completely new, up tempo system.
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the biggest reason I don't consider the 13 line great is 3rd & 4th down vs Vandy. All NFL talent can't pick up a yard vs Vandy? That's want to, that's not coaching or scheme or talent. that's want to and they didn't have it.
 
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LouderVol said:
the biggest reason I don't consider the 13 line great is 3rd & 4th down vs Vandy. All NFL talent can't pick up a yard vs Vandy? That's want to, that's not coaching or scheme or talent. that's want to and they didn't have it.
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1. Shoop vs Bajakian. I know which one I'm taking in that scenario.

2. If we had the RBs to go with that OL, they convert the first down. No way Hurd doesn't make it through in that situation.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
1. Shoop vs Bajakian. I know which one I'm taking in that scenario.

2. If we had the RBs to go with that OL, they convert the first down. No way Hurd doesn't make it through in that situation.
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that was Neal, he had 1000+ yard season with only 5 wins. and where is the coaching in a one yard contest? and its Vandy, I don't care if the entire Bama staff goes over to them we should be able to pick up a yard over two plays. instead we lost ground.
 
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