'17 TX QB Will McBride (UT Commit 12/13/2016)

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SSVol said:
Is that really true? Dobbs was 4th in the list when he got his start. Notwithstanding Dobbs durability, QBs get hurt. OSU won a championship with #3.
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I agree. I don't know how specific players will make their decisions but the idea that anyone behind a chosen starter will leave doesn't make sense and isn't supported by history. Sheriron left and came back once already, knowing he was behind 3 others.
 
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SSVol said:
Is that really true? Dobbs was 4th in the list when he got his start. Notwithstanding Dobbs durability, QBs get hurt. OSU won a championship with #3.
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Where was Worley going to transfer...and why? Peterman was an early favorite to win the starting job...and then the Florida game. The rebuilding plan that both Dobbs and Ferguson signed on for, had them redshirting and eventually competing for the starting nod at the beginning of their redshirt freshman season. Whoever finished higher would stay and the other would move on. Never come to fruition due to Ferguson's leg injury and Dobbs finishing out for Worley and Peterman. Dobbs was STILL on board to redshirt his sophomore year and due to his academic particulars (specific major), would have required an extremely toxic situation to go school shopping. Riley was a victim of his own maturity and questionable decisions and bolted in a season he would definitely have supplanted Peterman when Worley got dinged against Georgia. If he was even competent, Worley doesn't have to rush back too early. Allowed to get healthy, he doesn't have to gut out some games that undoubtedly further damaged him and Dobbs redshirt doesn't get touched. Then you would have had TWO redshirt sophomores fighting for the starters nod last season and either Dormady or Sheriron (or neither) backing up the the winner. If it was Ferguson, Dobbs might still stay? Maybe Dormady and/or Jones don't sign up to redshirt in that situation...changes the recruiting pitch. Just different dynamics than what we have currently. A possible repeating national championship team is going into next season with ONE experienced QB...why wouldn't those 3 kids wait for an opportunity? Rarely happens is why.
 
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butchna said:
Where was Worley going to transfer...and why? Peterman was an early favorite to win the starting job...and then the Florida game. The rebuilding plan that both Dobbs and Ferguson signed on for, had them redshirting and eventually competing for the starting nod at the beginning of their redshirt freshman season. Whoever finished higher would stay and the other would move on. Never come to fruition due to Ferguson's leg injury and Dobbs finishing out for Worley and Peterman. Dobbs was STILL on board to redshirt his sophomore year and due to his academic particulars (specific major), would have required an extremely toxic situation to go school shopping. Riley was a victim of his own maturity and questionable decisions and bolted in a season he would definitely have supplanted Peterman when Worley got dinged against Georgia. If he was even competent, Worley doesn't have to rush back too early. Allowed to get healthy, he doesn't have to gut out some games that undoubtedly further damaged him and Dobbs redshirt doesn't get touched. Then you would have had TWO redshirt sophomores fighting for the starters nod last season and either Dormady or Sheriron (or neither) backing up the the winner. If it was Ferguson, Dobbs might still stay? Maybe Dormady and/or Jones don't sign up to redshirt in that situation...changes the recruiting pitch. Just different dynamics than what we have currently. A possible repeating national championship team is going into next season with ONE experienced QB...why wouldn't those 3 kids wait for an opportunity? Rarely happens is why.
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butchna said:
Where was Worley going to transfer...and why? Peterman was an early favorite to win the starting job...and then the Florida game. The rebuilding plan that both Dobbs and Ferguson signed on for, had them redshirting and eventually competing for the starting nod at the beginning of their redshirt freshman season. Whoever finished higher would stay and the other would move on. Never come to fruition due to Ferguson's leg injury and Dobbs finishing out for Worley and Peterman. Dobbs was STILL on board to redshirt his sophomore year and due to his academic particulars (specific major), would have required an extremely toxic situation to go school shopping. Riley was a victim of his own maturity and questionable decisions and bolted in a season he would definitely have supplanted Peterman when Worley got dinged against Georgia. If he was even competent, Worley doesn't have to rush back too early. Allowed to get healthy, he doesn't have to gut out some games that undoubtedly further damaged him and Dobbs redshirt doesn't get touched. Then you would have had TWO redshirt sophomores fighting for the starters nod last season and either Dormady or Sheriron (or neither) backing up the the winner. If it was Ferguson, Dobbs might still stay? Maybe Dormady and/or Jones don't sign up to redshirt in that situation...changes the recruiting pitch. Just different dynamics than what we have currently. A possible repeating national championship team is going into next season with ONE experienced QB...why wouldn't those 3 kids wait for an opportunity? Rarely happens is why.
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So...who you are and what have you done with butchna?
 
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MetalVolunteer said:
I just hope that we are being honest with him and won't drop him if another highly rated prospect decides he wants to become a VOL.
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When has Butch done that this late in the game? Not saying it hasn't...just can't recall an example.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Are you really arguing that it's better to be a starting QB at Memphis than UT? Lynch got drafted high because he is a really good QB. Dobbs is not gonna be drafted high because he is not a really good overall QB. Paxton could have competed for a Heisman with those numbers at a higher profile school.
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Oh no not at all. I'm just saying just because a kid plays QB at Memphis doesn't mean he isn't NFL or SEC caliber. And that a QB shouldn't pick say a TN or Alabama over an Ala just because of the brand. If they have a better chance at playing early at Memphis over TN or Ala then there is no reason not to go to Memphis. If you are talented and have NFL dreams then they will find you regardless of what school you play at and shouldn't think playing at a bigger named school will be their only chance to get noticed.
 
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MetalVolunteer said:
I just hope that we are being honest with him and won't drop him if another highly rated prospect decides he wants to become a VOL.
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Don't think we have to worry about that. Until we get a true QB Coach and an OC that can actually recruit then I don't see us landing many highly rated QB's. Nothing against Debord but we need a guy like Helfrich who can sell coaching a Heisman winner/NFL QB in Mariota. Up until last year he hadn't called plays since '06 and has never had more than 3 years consecutive as a play caller. Kind of hard to sell that to the better QB recruits. Exactly why we need a Helfrich type OC. If not for Butch's relationship with JG's Dad I doubt we ever get him.
 
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lilesrt said:
Drew Brees says hello.
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You're missing the point..Height should not be what hurts a kids rating but unfortunately it does and is probably why he isn't ranked higher. Hell his highlights look way better than Dobb's and other higher rated QB's and Josh was a 4* on atleast one of the services. I watched Bubba Thompson Sat and would take McBride over him all day.
 
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Rishvol said:
Bigoted against IMO
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Bigoted? Well...in fairness...I live in northeast Tennessee, believe the Bible, attend church weekly, own a variety of guns, including some which may be on my person at this moment, and I wasn't completely devastated on election night. So yeah, maybe I am. But come on...butcha is practically a foreigner, right?
 
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