'18 AL OLB Matthew Flint (Former UT commit 8/2/17)

[de1conley]

I kind of like de1 but the way he glows when talking about bama is off putting. He also seems to 100% bought into himself. Confidence and arrogance are a fine line

All i can say to this Stark is i hv never gave a damn about Bama. The thing is Bama, Clemson, FSU, and tOSU are the standard. NO glow needed but when recruiting you must recruit to beat or become on their level. I hv a cousin who started at Rb at Bama and never went to 1 game to watch him except for the UT game all 4 yrs.

 

[bigl3327]

All i can say to this Stark is i hv never gave a damn about Bama. The thing is Bama, Clemson, FSU, and tOSU are the standard. NO glow needed but when recruiting you must recruit to beat or become on their level. I hv a cousin who started at Rb at Bama and never went to 1 game to watch him except for the UT game all 4 yrs.

So you're related to Santonio Beard.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Tell me my agenda UEG? I guess now you thk Cam is one of my guys or something. Well you're wrong because he isn't. On the arrogance tip please dude not 1 arrogamt bone in my body. I just spk the truth and many cant handle it. Like I said Cam is a better player. Also answer this for me, how many 215 lb Lbs does Alabama, LSU, UGA, Fla recruit? I'll wait on it. I have no problem with ppl not liking my opinion or evaluation but i hv said it before i ain't no sunshine pumper. If a kid is a good one i say it if i feel different I say.

You said Bituli was garbage too...and how big was JRM coming out of HS? You're perception of the "truth" is purely subjective..real "truth" is absolute. None of us know absolutely if Flint is garbage or gold, and that is the absolute "truth". It is the definition of arrogance to call your perception of truth absolute. In Flints case..only time will reveal the truth absolutely. If you don't think Flint is a great pickup, that's fine, even understandable and a opinion worthy of consideration and discussion in a common sense way.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It's not your opinion that is the problem but how you present your opinion. It's not about you not pumping sunshine all the time. You make your case by being degrading and insulting to a person who isn't even 18 years old yet. It takes less than 30 seconds to think of a well worded response that effectively articulates you opinion with out degrading a child. Simply saying, "I believe Cam has a greater upside. I am not fond of Flint's tape. I believe this may be a poor choice by the staff at this point in time. I am unhappy with UTs current LB recruiting board"

You could even discuss where Flint is lacking. i.e. Point of attack, pass coverage, speed, tackling ability.

All points covered and presented in a manner that is infinitely more informative and respectful then your usual presentation. And your opinion is not given in a manner that turns entire recruiting boards against you.

Exactly...Very well said.

 

[bigl3327]

What's really funny about all of this is the fact that it's a long way until NSD. I'm sure they're will be multiple names surface in LB recruiting before then that don't currently have a thread at all right now. It happens every year. But Flint may have the type of season that shoots his ranking up and some of the same people complaining will be talking about how well our staff evaluates talent early.

 

[bigl3327]

Do you think Khalil Mack ended up at Buffalo in college because he turned down a long list of major universities? That says everyone missed on that guy coming out of high school.

 

[m1al]

This is not the issue...

but I'm bad because i say 1 kid is better than the other lolllll this is hilarious.

This is...

I know my stuff really well, ppl like to crack jokes on a profession that pays me more than they slave to do etc.

You really don't get it do you?

 

[DaddyChad]

Problem isn't Cam vs Flint, it's our linebacker recruiting in general. Both those kids are decent but we don't have a great option at LB whereas most other positions are really good. If we had took another elite guy and one of the two of these two I would feel better. I know numbers are tight and all. Fact is I'd rather skip LB all together and land a guy like Emmons than take Flint or Cam if numbers are that big an issue.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Problem isn't Cam vs Flint, it's our linebacker recruiting in general. Both those kids are decent but we don't have a great option at LB whereas most other positions are really good. If we had took another elite guy and one of the two of these two I would feel better. I know numbers are tight and all. Fact is I'd rather skip LB all together and land a guy like Emmons than take Flint or Cam if numbers are that big an issue.

you would rather skip it completely? okay then Dooley

we also took 3 really good LBs last cycle.

 

[The Dog]

Problem isn't Cam vs Flint, it's our linebacker recruiting in general. Both those kids are decent but we don't have a great option at LB whereas most other positions are really good. If we had took another elite guy and one of the two of these two I would feel better. I know numbers are tight and all. Fact is I'd rather skip LB all together and land a guy like Emmons than take Flint or Cam if numbers are that big an issue.

As would I. Plus, recruit Richard Jibunor as an OLB and UT possibly has their elite LB, imo. Even if u think Jibunor will end up as a DE give him his 1st shot as a kind of OLB/DE hybrid and if it doesn't work out then move him full-time to DE. Sorry to RF regulars, I know this is about the 12th time I've said this. Btw, late KA-BOOM for Matt Flint. Very happy for the kid and UT

 

[HalfullVol]

Sr. season hasn't yet happened for these kids and nor has the UT football season. It's still early.

New names will pop up, hopefully, if our team performs well on the field. Names that haven't even been mentioned here. Happens all the time.

Relax or freak out.

Your decision.

 

[HalfullVol]

As would I. Plus, recruit Richard Jibunor as an OLB and UT possibly has their elite LB, imo. Even if u think Jibunor will end up as a DE give him his 1st shot as a kind of OLB/DE hybrid and if it doesn't work out then move him full-time to DE. Sorry to RF regulars, I know this is about the 12th time I've said this. Btw, late KA-BOOM for Matt Flint. Very happy for the kid and UT

I'm not sure the coaches are listening - yet.

 

[DaddyChad]

you would rather skip it completely? okay then Dooley

we also took 3 really good LBs last cycle.

I know it's hard but try not to be a douche. No need for the Dooley BS BC someone disagrees with you.

I simply said I'd rather take two LBers. One elite and one of these two guys which I prefer Cam but not by much.

If numbers are so tight and we're pressed and it's between adding a decent kid that's basically a filler and adding a game changer like Emmons. I'd rather go Emmons.

 

[RikidyBones]

D1 brings some good comments, but every now and then he says something that he REALLY shouldn't.

It's rare that he brings something meaningful. 95% of the time he's embarrassing himself by showing his lack of knowledge, perspective and class.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

I know it's hard but try not to be a douche. No need for the Dooley BS BC someone disagrees with you.

I simply said I'd rather take two LBers. One elite and one of these two guys which I prefer Cam but not by much.

If numbers are so tight and we're pressed and it's between adding a decent kid that's basically a filler and adding a game changer like Emmons. I'd rather go Emmons.

:dance2:

 

[Montrell Hardy]

I just prefer the best players that can be gotten. Hopefully Flint turns out to be one of those players that vastly outplays his ranking. However, I am just looking at his offer list and it looks very weak at the moment. That could change and his offer list blows up. And I hope it does.
Now that is not the tell all when it comes to a recruit. But it does say quite a bit.

Flint is ranked somewhere between 40-50 for his position depending on what service you look at. Thats decent but I just thought we could do better at recruiting LBs.

Agreed. This is a pretty huge reach IMO. That said, our LB recruiting this cycle has been pathetic as I've pointed out for months. We aren't a factor for a single highly rated guy. Just bizarre evaluation or a really poor effort on the staff's part.

 

[Montrell Hardy]

I agree man the tk pf this kid over Cam is awful, but i think he'll be a purge in the end. Blows my mind sometimes at some guys that are let commit like this one. Congrats to the kid an F for this recruiting. This is not Cincy or W. Mich just not acceptible

It's bizarre to say the least. Sometimes I do think the staff forgets what level they are coaching at. At first I want to blame Thig, but then I read all over the place how much pull Welton has and how he and Butch love projects, so who knows. It's just weird how they don't seem to want to stay patient when it comes to big-time recruiting battles and quickly move on to plan B and plan C type guys to fill up the class.

 

[Vol Main]

As would I. Plus, recruit Richard Jibunor as an OLB and UT possibly has their elite LB, imo. Even if u think Jibunor will end up as a DE give him his 1st shot as a kind of OLB/DE hybrid and if it doesn't work out then move him full-time to DE. Sorry to RF regulars, I know this is about the 12th time I've said this. Btw, late KA-BOOM for Matt Flint Flint. I like him and welcome him to the t. Very happy for the kid and UT

What the Dog said. Take Flint and also Jibunor as monster OLB, maybe future DE. I got to say something about Flint. I like him. When JRM committed a few years back, I felt a little sceptical because of his size. Unlike some guys around here, I did not ruin the day by saying what I was thinking. Well, he turned into one of the best players on the team. None of us know, but I believe Flint will develop into a good player and a fine young man.

 

[LouderVol]

It's bizarre to say the least. Sometimes I do think the staff forgets what level they are coaching at. At first I want to blame Thig, but then I read all over the place how much pull Welton has and how he and Butch love projects, so who knows. It's just weird how they don't seem to want to stay patient when it comes to big-time recruiting battles and quickly move on to plan B and plan C type guys to fill up the class.

catch 22. you go all in on your guy, and stick with him even if he commits somewhere else. then come signing day he sticks with original school and you are left holding an empty bag really scrapping the barrel. worse than currently, possibly.

i think this staff has proven they keep digging on people. and i seriously doubt we know even half the information that is relevant. yeah Thig needs to go but I have to disagree to us quickly taking a lower rated guy.

if anything it seems to be we find a guy before anyone else. We lead for him, then some other big time school comes in and drops his dream offer down and then we are out of the mix. again not exactly what I would describe as just rolling over and showing our belly.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

To de1......

Laughed... because I get the feeling my life is a lot like this

 

[LaagerVol]

Problem isn't Cam vs Flint, it's our linebacker recruiting in general. Both those kids are decent but we don't have a great option at LB whereas most other positions are really good. If we had took another elite guy and one of the two of these two I would feel better. I know numbers are tight and all. Fact is I'd rather skip LB all together and land a guy like Emmons than take Flint or Cam if numbers are that big an issue.

I'm not saying this kid is Patrick Willis, but people on here would have had their pitch forks out if we had signed such a lowly prospect.....

 

[Montrell Hardy]

catch 22. you go all in on your guy, and stick with him even if he commits somewhere else. then come signing day he sticks with original school and you are left holding an empty bag really scrapping the barrel. worse than currently, possibly.

i think this staff has proven they keep digging on people. and i seriously doubt we know even half the information that is relevant. yeah Thig needs to go but I have to disagree to us quickly taking a lower rated guy.

if anything it seems to be we find a guy before anyone else. We lead for him, then some other big time school comes in and drops his dream offer down and then we are out of the mix. again not exactly what I would describe as just rolling over and showing our belly.

TBH, we could likely get this kid or Jones in late January if need be. My issue though is just how bad our LB board was from the get go and it's not even like they tried to make a move with any big-time guys. Just a bizarre philosophy IMO. I know most will disagree but I'm very skeptical when it comes to Shoop and Welton from an evaluation standpoint. All we see on the surface so far is Shoop's disastrous season last year and very few Bob Welton specials turning into big-time players up to this point.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

TBH, we could likely get this kid or Jones in late January if need be. My issue though is just how bad our LB board was from the get go and it's not even like they tried to make a move with any big-time guys. Just a bizarre philosophy IMO. I know most will disagree but I'm very skeptical when it comes to Shoop and Welton from an evaluation standpoint. All we see on the surface so far is Shoop's disastrous season last year and very few Bob Welton specials turning into big-time players up to this point.

So now the Bob's suck?

 

[FrostyDawg]

So now the Bob's suck?

It's the off season in the recruiting forum. Somebody has to suck or there's nothing to complain about. It's just the Bobs' turn now...that's all.

 

[butchna]

Thought we were down to one Bob?