'18 GA QB Justin Fields

You're confusing Heisman frontrunner status with NFL draft evaluation. With the lead and hype he's built, he can have a bad game or two against good competition and still win the award. Everyone else will have a bad game or more too. And he doesn't exactly face a litany of good defenses either, so who cares how wide open the WRs are or how well he throws a ball in traffic? The voters will see his highlights and his stats and vote for him.

Also, it's flawed logic to use performance last year for a yearly award.

I'm not confusing anything. He wasn't facing defensive powerhouses last year when he struggled. He completed 37% of his passes against NC State and 38% against Kentucky. His competition doesn't matter, but how he fairs against the competition does. Does he keep putting up big numbers when there aren't wide-open receivers?

Think of Fournette last year. He was leading some talks until he couldn't do anything against Bama.

So if the ballots had to be turned in today and you had a vote, are you saying you wouldn't vote for him? Because at this point, that's all we are talking about. That's what a front runner is.

I am looking at it differently I guess. Because the season isn't 4 games. And I'm not a believer that he'll sustain his success yet. That is all. I do think he's squarely in the consideration at this point.
 
I'm not confusing anything. He wasn't facing defensive powerhouses last year when he struggled. He completed 37% of his passes against NC State and 38% against Kentucky. His competition doesn't matter, but how he fairs against the competition does. Does he keep putting up big numbers when there aren't wide-open receivers?

Think of Fournette last year. He was leading some talks until he couldn't do anything against Bama.



I am looking at it differently I guess. Because the season isn't 4 games. And I'm not a believer that he'll sustain his success yet. That is all. I do think he's squarely in the consideration at this point.
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I really hope he decides soon. Hard to imagine it wouldn't be good news for the Vols. I don't like PFort's recent posts about him though. I get the impression he feels like he's going to back off on a commitment and completely re-open things.
 
That's a pointless question. The award is a season award. Who had the best 4-game stretch to start the season is pointless.

It isn't a pointless question when you are discussing who is the FRONT RUNNER for the award at THIS TIME.

Now, you might say discussing who is the front runner is right now is a pointless discussion, but that was the discussion being had. I mean, it is a discussion board and those are the types of things we discuss.
 
I really hope he decides soon. Hard to imagine it wouldn't be good news for the Vols. I don't like PFort's recent posts about him though. I get the impression he feels like he's going to back off on a commitment and completely re-open things.

It seems like that's how our QB recruiting has been going for the last year or so. We are the clear cut favorite....until we aren't.

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Hope Justin changes that trend.
 
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It seems like that's how our QB recruiting has been going for the last year or so. We are the clear cut favorite....until we aren't.

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Hope Justin changes that trend.

I know. Very disappointing. We absolutely must get a difference maker QB in the fold early.

Lewis seems to be struggling so far this year from some of the stats I've seen, and I can't imagine he is facing good competition up there.
 
I still think we have a good lead here, but with Ole Miss and Louisville offering and more offers sure to come, I feel like he holds off. Who knows what happens if he does.
 
I know. Very disappointing. We absolutely must get a difference maker QB in the fold early.

Lewis seems to be struggling so far this year from some of the stats I've seen, and I can't imagine he is facing good competition up there.

I think Lewis will be encouraged to change positions after a year or so in the program. He's a good athlete, but not a QB imo.
 
I know. Very disappointing. We absolutely must get a difference maker QB in the fold early.

Lewis seems to be struggling so far this year from some of the stats I've seen, and I can't imagine he is facing good competition up there.

I'd love to land an elite qb every year but we did land one just last year and should be able to rs him. So to me that is a 2017 qb.

I'm not getting the doom and gloom there
 
Question on 247:

Are there any 2018 recruits that might be close to making a decision?

Callahan's response:

QB Justin Fields is probably the main one to watch right now. He's hoping to make a decision by the end of October, although I don't know that he's dead set on doing it that soon if he decides he's not ready. He keeps adding offers, too, so that's something to watch over the next few weeks.

In another response to a similar question specifically relating to Fields, Callahan said:

I definitely think Tennessee has as good of a shot at Fields as anyone, and after hosting him the past two weekends, the Vols probably should be viewed as the slight favorites.

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They can sell this all day because of Jennings

He's not near the athlete / prospect Jennings was though. Jennings had offers from every top program in the country. I must be missing something with Lewis. I highly doubt he would be a take if he wasn't viewed as a QB by the staff. We are in on way better athletes that project as WR's in college, even an in-state guy like a Jovanta Payton.
 
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If Ryan Callahan had the winning numbers for a $1 million powerball drawing he would probably expect that 2 million people had the same numbers as him and he was gonna bring home 50 cents and have to pay taxes on it.
 
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three-star quarterback justin fields of kennesaw, ga., the vols’ top remaining quarterback target in the 2018 class, and his harrison high school team are enjoying an open date this week, which will prevent the vols from evaluating him friday while they’re in the atlanta area. But offensive coordinator mike debord currently is expected to return to georgia during tennessee’s open date the week of oct. 21 to see fields.

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“It was a way better atmosphere,” said Fields, who’s ranked the nation’s No. 401 overall prospect and No. 15 dual-threat quarterback in the 247Sports Composite for the 2018 class. “I liked the way Coach (Butch Jones) pushed the team and they just kept fighting during the game. And they came back with a game plan in the second half, and they executed it. It was definitely an exciting win for them.”

“What was cool to me was how they did the (orange-and-white) checkerboard in the crowd,” he said. “That was cool to see. It was loud. It was really loud. I heard the stadium was like that, though. I was kind of expecting it, but it was definitely loud.”

The visit gave Fields another chance to meet with Tennessee’s coaches and some of the Vols’ current commitments, including five-star Class of 2018 offensive lineman Cade Mays and four-star 2018 athlete Alontae Taylor. “They just told me they want me to play with them and stuff,” Fields said of Mays and Taylor. “Alontae, he’s a funny dude.”

Fields said he also talked with some of the other prospects who visited Tennessee for Saturday’s game, including five-star Penn State defensive end commitment Micah Parsons of Harrisburg, Pa.“We’ve been texting back and forth, asking each other about recruiting,” Fields said of Parsons.

[He] said he’s “undecided” on whether he might be ready to make a decision within the next few weeks. “I’m just going to pray about it,” Fields said. “I wouldn’t really say it’s a goal. I’m not trying to rush through it.”

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He said both UGA and Clemson are recruiting him. He believes the reason UGA has not extended an offer yet is because they are waiting to see what Trevor Lawrence does.
 
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The thing about Petrino's recruiting is he hasn't been at a big juggernaut recruiting school yet. I'm not saying if he were at a powerhouse school he would for sure recruit better but I think it would be a strong possibility.

Should have been able to do it at Arkansas. Did great there except for recruiting...and staying on motorcycles. :wink2:
 
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He said both UGA and Clemson are recruiting him. He believes the reason UGA has not extended an offer yet is because they are waiting to see what Trevor Lawrence does.

He might want to see if Fromme sticks too. As long as Chaney is the OC, I don't see the fit.
 
Should have been able to do it at Arkansas. Did great there except for recruiting...and staying on motorcycles. :wink2:

I agree, he could have done better at recruiting there, but i don't think Arkansas has ever been what i would consider a recruiting powerhouse regardless of the coach.
 
I agree, he could have done better at recruiting there, but i don't think Arkansas has ever been what i would consider a recruiting powerhouse regardless of the coach.

Neither is L'ville.
 
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He said both UGA and Clemson are recruiting him. He believes the reason UGA has not extended an offer yet is because they are waiting to see what Trevor Lawrence does.

That's what worries me - the seeming waiting on UGA/Clemson. I hope I'm just imagining it, but I'm starting to get a weird vibe about this recruitment.
 
I agree, he could have done better at recruiting there, but i don't think Arkansas has ever been what i would consider a recruiting powerhouse regardless of the coach.

It's just been begging for that type of coach. Closest has been Houston Nutt. Lou Holtz recruited great for Notre Dame...but so did Gerry Faust.
 
That's what worries me - the seeming waiting on UGA/Clemson. I hope I'm just imagining it, but I'm starting to get a weird vibe about this recruitment.

I could see Clemson, but not UGA. Smart might try to cite Bama with Hurts, but that's a Kiffin reroute. If the kid is smart enough for a Northwestern offer, he's smart enough not to see a fit in Chaney's offense.
 
I know Debord holds the title of QB coach and we also have Sheridan, but the lack of a proven quarterback specialist on staff is hurting our quarterback recruiting IMO.
 

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