19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[n_huffhines]

My solution is one of two or both.
- Hire ex military personnel to replace SROs. And/or let the teachers and staff decide for themselves if they would like to carry. Their lives should not be up to the government to gamble with.

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

 

[1vol8]

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

Gotta keep up with the entirety of what I said. I said in earlier posts that ex military applicants would undergo extensive psychological exams as a part of the hiring process

 

[VolStrom]

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

I'd trust anyone that served in the military to protect a school than I would an off the street jack wagon with an ego to protect my kids.

 

[OHvol40]

I'd trust anyone that served in the military to protect a school than I would an off the street jack wagon with an ego to protect my kids.

How about: trusting neither is a great option.

 

[VolStrom]

How about: trusting neither is a great option.

I've been around the military my entire life and yeah, I'd trust the military with my life far more than I would a police officer.

 

[n_huffhines]

Sickening! Multiple cops armed with AR15s and body armor vs ONE shooter with an AR15 and body armor. Piss poor excuses for cops

At what point do we accept the notion that a cop isn't a hero unless he proves otherwise? Just dudes collecting paychecks until they do something brave and selfless.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

Obviously not going to vet any of the potential candidates.

 

[1vol8]

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

What’s funny is how many people want to criticize anyone that suggests arming teachers and/or ex military personnel. But the one thing that hasn’t been tried is arming teachers and ex military personnel. Meanwhile schools are being shot up at an alarming rate

 

[OHvol40]

I've been around the military my entire life and yeah, I'd trust the military with my life far more than I would a police officer.

Meh

 

[n_huffhines]

Gotta keep up with the entirety of what I said. I said in earlier posts that ex military applicants would undergo extensive psychological exams as a part of the hiring process

Like when Bo Bergdahl was admitted into the army? IDK, man. Not sure I trust public schools to restrict the hiring process to vets. Can they be that selective if it's only vets? Not sure the math works on that.

 

[1vol8]

At what point do we accept the notion that a cop isn't a hero unless he proves otherwise? Just dudes collecting paychecks until they do something brave and selfless.

I disagree. I think every cop is a hero until he/she given the opportunity to either prove worthy of that badge or below it. Most cops don’t NOT act in a situation like that. Most would die trying to save those kids

 

[hog88]

I disagree. I think every cop is a hero until he/she given the opportunity to either prove worthy of that badge or below it. Most cops don’t NOT act in a situation like that. Most would die trying to save those kids

Nobody is a hero until they do something heroic.

 

[n_huffhines]

I disagree. I think every cop is a hero until he/she given the opportunity to either prove worthy of that badge or below it. Most cops don’t NOT act in a situation like that. Most would die trying to save those kids

Sure

 

[1vol8]

Like when Bo Bergdahl was admitted into the army? IDK, man. Not sure I trust public schools to restrict the hiring process to vets. Can they be that selective if it's only vets? Not sure the math works on that.

It could be anyone. Teachers, cops, ex military, special forces retirees or any infantry or combat experience. Battle tested doesn’t always mean PTSD or homeless drug addicts/alcoholics.

 

[turdherder11]

Yeah, let's arm dudes potentially with PTSD and put them in our schools to protect our children.

I would rather have ex military at the ready than a retired cop whose never pulled his gun. It's a different story if an ex marine from Iraq or Afghanistan was at that school. Completely different.

 

[BowlBrother85]

They are seldom used in murders mass or otherwise.

^^^^ This was in response to a post concerning the AR-15. ^^^^

You are dead wrong. It has been the most commonly used firearm in spree shootings. You sure do talk out of your butt a lot.

What kind of gun was used in Texas school shooting? The AR-15

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Stephen Paddock - Las Vegas, Nevada - There were multiple AR-15's recovered from his hotel room in Mandalay Bay.

These were the guns used in America's worst shooting in modern history

https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas...idence-from-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock

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James Holmes - Aurora, Colorado - The movie theater shooter used an AR-15.

A look back at the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooting 5 years later

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Adam Lanza - Newtown, Connecticut - He had an AR-15.

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting | Facts & Timeline

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Nikolas Cruz - Parkland, Florida - He also had an AR-15.

How AR-15-style guns, such as the one used in Parkland shooting, are legal | CNN Politics

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[1vol8]

Sure

I was in law enforcement for several years and I’ve never heard or seen such a cowardly act that what those cops demonstrated. Each situation is unique but often involve a gunman. However rarely does it end in someone’s death. That doesn’t mean the cops finger was never on the trigger and ready to die if necessary. So I respectfully disagree with both you and Hogg. A cop is a hero until given the opportunity to prove otherwise. Not everyone is cut out for such a job

 

[1vol8]

I would rather have ex military at the ready than a retired cop whose never pulled his gun. It's a different story if an ex marine from Iraq or Afghanistan was at that school. Completely different.

You ain’t kiddin

 

[McDad]

^^^^ This was in response to a post concerning the AR-15. ^^^^

You are dead wrong. It has been the most commonly used firearm in spree shootings. You sure do talk out of your butt a lot.

What kind of gun was used in Texas school shooting? The AR-15

***********************************

Stephen Paddock - Las Vegas, Nevada - There were multiple AR-15's recovered from his hotel room in Mandalay Bay.

These were the guns used in America's worst shooting in modern history

https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas...idence-from-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock

************************************

James Holmes - Aurora, Colorado - The movie theater shooter used an AR-15.

A look back at the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooting 5 years later

*************************************

Adam Lanza - Newtown, Connecticut - He had an AR-15.

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting | Facts & Timeline

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Nikolas Cruz - Parkland, Florida - He also had an AR-15.

How AR-15-style guns, such as the one used in Parkland shooting, are legal | CNN Politics

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This might interest you. @kiddiedoc posted it earlier.

• The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports prove that the overwhelming majority of gun-related homicides are perpetrated with handguns, with rifles of any kind accounting for less than 3 percent of gun-related homicides. In 2013, 5,782 murders were committed by killers who used a handgun, compared to 285 committed by killers who used a rifle. The same holds true for 2012 (6,404 to 298); 2011 (6,251 to 332); 2010 (6,115 to 367); and 2009 (6,501 to 351).
• More people are stabbed to death every year than are murdered with rifles.
• A person is more likely to be bludgeoned to death with a blunt object or beaten to death with hands and feet than to be murdered with a rifle.

 

[BowlBrother85]

This might interest you. @kiddiedoc posted it earlier.

I specifically said "spree shootings" ... so, I obviously wasn't talking about all "gun-related homicides."

 

[1vol8]

^^^^ This was in response to a post concerning the AR-15. ^^^^

You are dead wrong. It has been the most commonly used firearm in spree shootings. You sure do talk out of your butt a lot.

What kind of gun was used in Texas school shooting? The AR-15

***********************************

Stephen Paddock - Las Vegas, Nevada - There were multiple AR-15's recovered from his hotel room in Mandalay Bay.

These were the guns used in America's worst shooting in modern history

https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas...idence-from-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock

************************************

James Holmes - Aurora, Colorado - The movie theater shooter used an AR-15.

A look back at the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooting 5 years later

*************************************

Adam Lanza - Newtown, Connecticut - He had an AR-15.

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting | Facts & Timeline

**************************************

Nikolas Cruz - Parkland, Florida - He also had an AR-15.

How AR-15-style guns, such as the one used in Parkland shooting, are legal | CNN Politics

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For each article you find saying AR15s are the problem, I can find 10 that oppose it. It all depends on the writers. But like it or not, the truth is AR15s are used in less than 2% of gun related deaths. Those stats are from the FBI

 

[McDad]

I specifically said "spree shootings" ... so, I obviously wasn't talking about all "gun-related homicides."

Fair nuff.
Does "spree shooting" have defined parameters?

 

[1vol8]

I specifically said "spree shootings" ... so, I obviously wasn't talking about all "gun-related homicides."

What is it that scares you guys so much about AR15s? Because they look scary? Thats gotta be it because one trigger pull = one round. Hence the term SEMI automatic. I can shoot a handgun just as fast and reload it faster. Is my handgun now an assault weapon?

 

[Weezer]

I specifically said "spree shootings" ... so, I obviously wasn't talking about all "gun-related homicides."

In other words, Hog's comment that you said was "dead wrong" was in fact not dead wrong.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Adults protecting the children.