19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[Majors]

Okay, I'll be the one to say it, he's Hispanic and not a white guy.

News coverage isn’t the same. If you’re on the left this is prime example much like the NYC subway shooting of how it gets covered.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I had a thought this morning:
How hard would it be to install automatic locks on classroom doors that could be activated with a panic button (akin to silent alarms at banks)?

 

[Wireless1]

Not to defend the delay, or the officers, but one observation here. Based on everything I have read, it appears that the shooter barricaded himself in a locked classroom. This changes things. Unless the responding officers knew how to breach the door and had the appropriate tools, which it is unlikely that they did, then yes… entry would be delayed.

This was a literal no-win situation for responding officers, and a tactical nightmare. This is why, in my opinion, the key is to make the school itself a hard target. Make it hard for the bad guy to get in. This may give responding units the critical time necessary to arrive and eliminate the threat.

If this is true, I suspect all the teachers across the country today locked their classroom door. If the police can't get in the bad guy can't either.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

They should have gotten a key within the first 2 or 3 minutes.

Luther, here is a pro tip for you: stay out of things you know nothing about. This was a mass casualty event, and it was a very dynamic situation. Mass casualty equals mass panic. Been there, seen that.

The first 2 to 3 minutes of this situation were absolute chaos. Odds are that even if they thought of it at that point they would’ve had a very hard time finding someone who could get them the key.

Stick to “rational and reasonable”. Tactical is not your strong suit.

 

[508mikey]

I had a thought this morning:
How hard would it be to install automatic locks on classroom doors that could be activated with a panic button (akin to silent alarms at banks)?

Should have been done years ago

 

[allvol123]

If this is true, I suspect all the teachers across the country today locked their classroom door. If the police can't get in the bad guy can't either.

I think it is more complicated though. The bad guy can get in, he isn’t worried about hurting people, that is actually his intention.

Anyone on the good side of this has to weigh all the other people involved.

 

[Ttucke11]

Follows booze too. Let's outlaw that.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I had a thought this morning:
How hard would it be to install automatic locks on classroom doors that could be activated with a panic button (akin to silent alarms at banks)?

That’s a good suggestion and a good start.
Let’s make schools hard targets.

 

[happy-go_vol]

????
I guess you're talking religion.
Does that only apply to the past 2100 years?

I'm not talking about religion (not your definition of religion) . But belief in Christ, in God would stem this hostility. This issue of anger, especially in our kids is due to a growing unbelief in God and an unbelief in truth.
Why fear any consequences if you're just made up of primordial ooz and you're just a rung on the evolution scale? This philosophy, (whether directly or indirectly) is being taught to our kids.

 

[Wireless1]

Sadly, if each school was given $400K I doubt any would spend more than a fraction on security, it'd be spent on computers, teacher's aids, and other resources. BAd guys show up at 250 schools per year, 3 make the evening news per year, the administrators play the odds.....

 

[Majors]

I don't care if Obama says it's okay or not, trash is trash.

Absolutely. Just another way to cause division with the left not knowing what he’s doing.

 

[508mikey]

That’s a good suggestion and a good start.
Let’s make schools hard targets.

Alot of them already are. Feds need to mandate all of them are. No exceptions

 

[utvolpj]

I had a thought this morning:
How hard would it be to install automatic locks on classroom doors that could be activated with a panic button (akin to silent alarms at banks)?

We can start by locking the front door

Problem with remote locks is some kids choose get caught out. They're supposed to go to the nearest room but that could take some time

 

[Pacer92]

Police face questions over response to Texas school shooting



The officers were outside the building.



How ****ing long did it take them to ask for a damn key?

Wow…just wow. Had to ask for a key to breach a door with dead children laying on the other side?

 

[hog88]

Luther, here is a pro tip for you: stay out of things you know nothing about. This was a mass casualty event, and it was a very dynamic situation. Mass casualty equals mass panic. Been there, seen that.

The first 2 to 3 minutes of this situation were absolute chaos. Odds are that even if they thought of it at that point they would’ve had a very hard time finding someone who could get them the key.

Stick to “rational and reasonable”. Tactical is not your strong suit.

You train so that reaction becomes second nature and overrides the natural panic.

The police have a lot of questions they need to answer.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Alot of them already are. Feds need to mandate all of them are. No exceptions

The private school my kids went too was most definitely a hard target.

 

[Rickyvol77]

If it is true they had to bring in a staff member to open the door with a key that is just flat out ridiculous. It would be indefensible.

This is little hick school. Sounds like the teachers weren’t even sure who had a key

 

[Rickyvol77]

No they were outside the building.

Then how did the two officers get shot inside

 

[Rickyvol77]

No they were outside the building.

Double post

 

[hog88]

This is little hick school. Sounds like the teachers weren’t even sure who had a key

********. You and your "hick" label can **** off

 

[hog88]

Then how did the two officers get shot inside

I said that there are a lot of conflicting reports. Must be hick reporting.

 

[Rickyvol77]

********. You and your "hick" label can **** off

Seriously? This school didn’t have an intercom system. A locking front door and the town is little. It’s not being negative to state that they didn’t have proper infrastructure to combat this at this school

 

[hog88]

Seriously? This school didn’t have an intercom system. A locking front door and the town is little. It’s not being negative to state that they didn’t have proper infrastructure to combat this at this school

Yes seriously. You label everywhere outside of a major city "hick".

 

[GroverCleveland]

Yeah you never know when you will need that AR 15 for that revolution that comes up about every 250 years or so.

Revolutions do seem to be rare, although revolts against tyrannical government, perceived or real, happen much more frequently.

 

[C-south]

IDK, guy had a part time job, no drivers license and someone financed 4 grand? I guess it’s possible.

Not sure how much ammo and how many mags he had either. I think a round is about $.80 per and a P-Mag is probably about $20.

 

[hog88]

Not sure how much ammo and how many mags he had either. I think a round is about $.80 per and a P-Mag is probably about $20.

Plus body armor and that ish isn't cheap.