19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[Rickyvol77]

First I've heard this. Hard to believe that within 12 minutes the school wasn't locked down.

Looks like that door isn’t able to be locked down

 

[Ttucke11]

Wow Obama. What a dumbass.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Two points: (1) if you're gonna weigh the "bad" uses of a gun (murder, suicide, robbery, kidnapping, etc.), against the "good" uses (self-defense), you're not gonna like how the math comes out (trust me, it's not in your favor); and (2) not all valid uses of a gun in self-defense prevent an innocent killing, even if the the perpetrator was killed. In many cases, shooting a home intruder doesn't mean that if the home intruder hadn't been shot and killed that the homeowner would have been shot and killed.

Self defense and appropriate gun use far outnumbers illegal acts, accidents and suicides

 

[allvol123]

Wow Obama. What a dumbass.

I’m telling you they were mad that this horrific event overshadowed their GF law signing ceremony.

 

[VolStrom]

Two points: (1) if you're gonna weigh the "bad" uses of a gun (murder, suicide, robbery, kidnapping, etc.), against the "good" uses (self-defense), you're not gonna like how the math comes out (trust me, it's not in your favor); and (2) not all valid uses of a gun in self-defense prevent an innocent killing, even if the the perpetrator was killed. In many cases, shooting a home intruder doesn't mean that if the home intruder hadn't been shot and killed that the homeowner would have been shot and killed.

You have a dark soul. You need to just stop posting.

 

[Dirty Vol]

Police-training experts say if Uvalde police didn't storm the school, they weren't following standard protocol

 

[evillawyer]

My God man, you are an extremely petty, small, heartless person.


And for liking that horrible take Luther, you aren't much better.

If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.

 

[hog88]

Looks like that door isn’t able to be locked down

They can't lock the doors of the school?

 

[Ttucke11]

I’m telling you they were mad that this horrific event overshadowed their GF law signing ceremony.

Hey hey hey! I know 19 innocent children died, but what about black criminals high on fentanyl!? Can we please not forget them!? Elections are coming up and police bad.

Seriously, one of the most tone-deaf things I've ever seen by a major political figure. He's a disgrace.

 

[rjd970]

I feel like there is something not being reported. Somebody(s) screwed up big.

 

[hndog609]

Two points: (1) if you're gonna weigh the "bad" uses of a gun (murder, suicide, robbery, kidnapping, etc.), against the "good" uses (self-defense), you're not gonna like how the math comes out (trust me, it's not in your favor); and (2) not all valid uses of a gun in self-defense prevent an innocent killing, even if the the perpetrator was killed. In many cases, shooting a home intruder doesn't mean that if the home intruder hadn't been shot and killed that the homeowner would have been shot and killed.

1. Your math is probably skewed by the fact that the vast majority of defensive gun uses don't result in a shooting. Why would they? Bad guy starts something, intended victim pulls weapon capable of making bad guy dead, bad guy leaves. Hell, how many of those aren't ever reported at all?
1A. You be the one to tell all those many, many examples like the one above how much they should have been disarmed by the likes of you.
2. Only someone as far gone as you would try to argue "But, if we had unarmed people facing home invasions who knows, maybe it wouldn't have turned out THAT bad in some cases".

 

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[Ttucke11]

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Quite the jumps in logic there.

 

[n_huffhines]

Quite the jumps in logic there.

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[Orangeslice13]

Wow, you're a pathetic human

2nd

 

[hog88]

I feel like there is something not being reported. Somebody(s) screwed up big.

If there was a 14 minute gap between the 911 call of a shooter at the Funeral Home which is just a couple-3 hundred feet away from the school and the doors weren't locked within those 14 minutes before he entered the school, yeah someone screwed up big time.

 

[VolStrom]

If there was a 14 minute gap between the 911 call of a shooter at the Funeral Home which is just a couple-3 hundred feet away from the school and the doors weren't locked within those 14 minutes before he entered the school, yeah someone screwed up big time.

You're the victim of 20/20 hind site

 

[Ttucke11]

?

"We're investigating the mass murder we didn't try and stop". That's some propaganda level non-sense. Facts are not even out yet.

I mean at least 3 of the cops did try and stop it, as they killed him or were shot.

Also I'd like to see the full quote and context. Nothing he said was outrageous or undermining the children's deaths. Now Obama on the other hand...

 

[Orangeslice13]

Own this with it

‘I had to do what I had to do:’ Florida woman, 69, shoots, kills intruder
Resident fatally shoots suspected burglar in Walnut; 2nd suspect sought | KTLA
Brownsboro homeowner armed with AR-15 stops burglary suspect
Hatchet attack in Ohio state park leads to shots fired
South Carolina Boy, 13, Uses Mother's Gun To Fend Off Two Criminals Who Were Breaking Into His Home While He Was Alone, Fatally Shoots Burglar, Scares Off Second Suspect: Police - Truth Tent
MAN SHOT AND KILLED AFTER FORCING HIS WAY INTO A HOME IN LENOIR CITY
Atlanta ride share driver shoots alleged police impersonator making phony traffic in Target parking lot
Homeowner kills 2 intruders, holds 2 more at gunpoint for police | WANE 15
Armed robber on a bike killed by man he was trying to rob in South Philadelphia, police say
Man shot intruder at home on West Side; suspect later escaped from ambulance, police say
Tacoma hotel employee shoots man who threatened 3 employees with a knife

All these are just from this month and there is a 100% chance it's a drop in the bucket compared to the total lawful defense usages out there.

The contractor in Knoxville who used an AR to defend the homeowners he was working from from a follow home attack.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I am sorry but I am tired of people using government incompetence as an excuse to try and violate the bill of rights. Don’t mishandle a situation like this and then say that YOUR failure to act anything near responsibly to argue that I should have my rights curtailed as a result

 

[Orangeslice13]

If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.

Good luck trying to change it. If you’re scared of people with guns then be prepared to defend yourself. I’m not stupid enough (like you) to believe if I give up mine the criminals won’t have one either.
The 2a will stand. There are plenty of places you’re free to go if you don’t like it.

 

[hog88]

You're the victim of 20/20 hind site

How so? If all is correct:
911 call at 11:30 of shots fired 2-3 hundred feet away from a school
11:40 shooter enters the school

They couldn't have locked the doors within 10 minutes (I was wrong about the 14 in an earlier post)? Nobody heard the shots fired and/or 911 (or sheriffs office) didn't contact the school within 10 minutes?

 

[KB5252]

If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.

What I want and think about the 2nd and gun control take a back seat to the grieving families here, one grieved so hard his heart couldn't take it. And you made fun of it, turned it into a political football for a cheap point and likes. Shame on you for typing it, Eff you for trying to defend it. Literal POS!

 

[BreatheUT]

If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.

Maybe you need to settle down and take a break for a few days. Feed the cats. Watch them play in puddles of water outside. Reflect when it's quiet.

 

[volinbham]

SIAP

There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year