19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

If you ever wonder why liberals feel the Need to react immediately before all the facts come out, you need to realize that it is because hey know the facts very rarely support their point of view. They have a very narrow time window in which to propagandize before the truth gets out and spoils their whole illogical emotional „argument“
 
How so? If all is correct:
911 call at 11:30 of shots fired 2-3 hundred feet away from a school
11:40 shooter enters the school

They couldn't have locked the doors within 10 minutes (I was wrong about the 14 in an earlier post)? Nobody heard the shots fired and/or 911 (or sheriffs office) didn't contact the school within 10 minutes?
They could have done a lot of things that they didn't. You weren't there, and you are just speculating about what they could have or should have done. If I were in my house and heard gunshots outside, I'd be confused as hell. Most teachers aren't war hardened veterans ready to grab a gun and march into battle.
 
If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.
In what other area of our political life do we deprive someone of property die to a potential that they might misuse it?
What if I take your car because I can’t be sure you won’t drive under the influence sometime in the future? I better take all of your fishing gear too just in case you might exceed your catch limit someday? And do you REALLY need a phone? You might use it to make an illegal 911 call! We‘ll be there to pick that up in about an hour. You can thank us later. We te the government and we are here to help.
 
They could have done a lot of things that they didn't. You weren't there, and you are just speculating about what they could have or should have done. If I were in my house and heard gunshots outside, I'd be confused as hell. Most teachers aren't war hardened veterans ready to grab a gun and march into battle.

The school, the sheriffs dept should have procedures in place and the procedures drilled with the employees. I doubt many people have the same for their house.

It doesn't take a hardened vet to lock a damn door when there is someone shooting outside.
 
The school, the sheriffs dept should have procedures in place and the procedures drilled with the employees. I doubt many people have the same for their house.

It doesn't take a hardened vet to lock a damn door when there is someone shooting outside.
Yeah, you're right. This happened in hickville USA that never thought this would happen to them. Like I said, you have perfect hindsight about what they should have done.
 
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Yeah, you're right. This happened in hickville USA that never thought this would happen to them. Like I said, you have perfect hindsight about what they should have done.

I don't GAS if this happened in Mayberry, every school and local law enforcement agency in the country should have these procedures and have them drilled. If that timeline is accurate its a colossal **** up by the school and sheriffs department.
 
In what other area of our political life do we deprive someone of property die to a potential that they might misuse it?
What if I take your car because I can’t be sure you won’t drive under the influence sometime in the future? I better take all of your fishing gear too just in case you might exceed your catch limit someday? And do you REALLY need a phone? You might use it to make an illegal 911 call! We‘ll be there to pick that up in about an hour. You can thank us later. We te the government and we are here to help.

Cars result in deaths, sometimes intentionally. The societal benefits of having cars far outweigh those deaths. Ditto with phones, fishing gear, etc. That's not true with guns. The mischief done with guns far outweighs any benefits they have. What you basically have to argue is that we as a society will not deprive you of a tool to defend your life, even though making that tool widely available will result in a much larger number of unjustified deaths. You should just own that argument.

It's like saying I have a new drug for cancer. It'll cure one of you for every five it kills. Should we authorize that drug?
 
I don't GAS if this happened in Mayberry, every school and local law enforcement agency in the country should have these procedures and have them drilled. If that timeline is accurate its a colossal **** up by the school and sheriffs department.
Okay, It didn't happen in this case, so what would you do as the principal of Wartburg elementary in real time? I'm amazed that you seem to have eyes in the back of your head that point you to where to go when you've already been there.
 
If you believe in a robust 2nd Amendment (i.e., nearly no impediments to gun ownership), you're implicitly saying all these senseless deaths are not as important as/don't outweigh your right to play Rambo.
Bull ****. Guns don't fire themselves. The issue is not and has never been about guns. The left just wants people to believe it's the guns. The issue is the mentally ill people who will find a way to kill the defenseless. And society has just made it worse by encouraging the victim mentality, encouraging people to be offended by the most trivial of matters.

If you're really concerned about the children, stop bitching about the Democratic talking point of "it's the guns!" and address the real issue. Stop making it about politics and let's address the real problem, which is the mentally ill/weak people who commit these heinous acts.
 
Cars result in deaths, sometimes intentionally. The societal benefits of having cars far outweigh those deaths. Ditto with phones, fishing gear, etc. That's not true with guns. The mischief done with guns far outweighs any benefits they have. What you basically have to argue is that we as a society will not deprive you of a tool to defend your life, even though making that tool widely available will result in a much larger number of unjustified deaths. You should just own that argument.

It's like saying I have a new drug for cancer. It'll cure one of you for every five it kills. Should we authorize that drug?
I wasn’t aware that basic constitutional rights were subject to a risk/benefits analysis. And you are simply bypassing the question of WHY it is ok to punish someone based on the potential for crime? I ask again, in what other situations do we take someone’s property under a fear that they MIGHT misuse it. Especially a type of property specifically identified as deserving special protection BY name in the constitution
And if you DO want to play the silly risk/benefit game, I propose we ban matches and lighters. No one needs the risk of deadly fires anymore since we now have light bulbs and stoves. Why do we allow civilians to still have the tools needed to start fires?
 
How so? If all is correct:
911 call at 11:30 of shots fired 2-3 hundred feet away from a school
11:40 shooter enters the school

They couldn't have locked the doors within 10 minutes (I was wrong about the 14 in an earlier post)? Nobody heard the shots fired and/or 911 (or sheriffs office) didn't contact the school within 10 minutes?
I'm not ready to hang anybody with regards to that until more comes out.
 
Okay, It didn't happen in this case, so what would you do as the principal of Wartburg elementary in real time? I'm amazed that you seem to have eyes in the back of your head that point you to where to go when you've already been there.

In real time? I would follow the established and practiced procedures for an active shooter.

Sometimes you can be Ricky dumb.
 
Cars result in deaths, sometimes intentionally. The societal benefits of having cars far outweigh those deaths. Ditto with phones, fishing gear, etc. That's not true with guns. The mischief done with guns far outweighs any benefits they have. What you basically have to argue is that we as a society will not deprive you of a tool to defend your life, even though making that tool widely available will result in a much larger number of unjustified deaths. You should just own that argument.

It's like saying I have a new drug for cancer. It'll cure one of you for every five it kills. Should we authorize that drug?
How is it possible for you to be this stupid?
 
CNN’s Juliette Kayyem Demands Federal Government Suspend Immigration Enforcement in Uvalde

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In the wake of Tuesday’s attack on a Texas elementary school which left 19 children and two adults dead, CNN national security analyst Juliette Kayyem called for the federal government to suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde, Texas, and turn the small town into a “safe harbor” for illegals residing there.

Speaking to CNN on Tuesday, Kayyem cited the demographics of the area of the shooting to highlight the importance of halting immigration enforcement there.

Last month, Kayyem argued against referring to a New York City subway station shooting that injured more than two dozen people as an act of “terrorism,” a term she said should be reserved for political acts such as the January 6 Capitol riot.

In February, she called to slash the tires of the Canadian trucker convoy and arrest the drivers protesting their government’s strict coronavirus policies.

In December, Kayyem accused former President Donald Trump of “leading a terror movement.”

In 2015, she protested against arming people in soft targets such as schools and public venues to prevent attacks.

CNN's Juliette Kayyem Demands Federal Government Suspend Immigration Enforcement in Uvalde
 
I’m sure it’s a question our esteemed press will ask.
According to their school policy all doors should be locked during class hours. The 4 resource officers would not be enough as there are 6 schools total. Robb is 2 miles away from the high school, middle school and another elementary. Both the high school and middle school have buzz in systems.
He went for the softest target.
 
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I'm not ready to hang anybody with regards to that until more comes out.
You REALLY expect the passage of more time or availability of more facts will make them look BETTER? That pretty much NEVER happens. They dribble out the news slowly precisely BECAUSE they know the news makes them look bad.
 
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Cars result in deaths, sometimes intentionally. The societal benefits of having cars far outweigh those deaths. Ditto with phones, fishing gear, etc. That's not true with guns. The mischief done with guns far outweighs any benefits they have. What you basically have to argue is that we as a society will not deprive you of a tool to defend your life, even though making that tool widely available will result in a much larger number of unjustified deaths. You should just own that argument.

It's like saying I have a new drug for cancer. It'll cure one of you for every five it kills. Should we authorize that drug?


Simple solution .. change the constitution , you can do that you know .
 
School Board Member Deceptively Claims Uvalde Shooter Was a White Nationalist

Another school shooting has happened and as usual, folks on the left are doing their level best to politicize it as much as humanly possible. Democratic politicians and media activists are desperately trying to use the tragedy that occurred in Uvalde, Texas, to smear their political opponents, standing on the bodies of the children who perished to pretend conservatives are somehow responsible. But even at the local level, left-leaning officials are politicizing the matter – and at least one blatantly lied about the incident, claiming it was carried out by a white nationalist.

On Wednesday, Nicole Cole, a member of the school board in Spotsylvania, Virginia, wrote a post on Facebook in which she pretended the shooter who murdered 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School was a white nationalist. She wrote:
 
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I feel like there is something not being reported. Somebody(s) screwed up big.
So since DPS and specifically the Texas Rangers are handling the investigation I think all of the LEO failures will be put in the open. They have no reason to sweep them under the rug. I think we saw the first shot across the bow on that today when the DPS spox left no doubt that the door was unlocked and no SRO was present and the shooter just walked in. I don’t think that bodes well for skeletons that really want to be left in the closet.
 
CNN’s Juliette Kayyem Demands Federal Government Suspend Immigration Enforcement in Uvalde

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In the wake of Tuesday’s attack on a Texas elementary school which left 19 children and two adults dead, CNN national security analyst Juliette Kayyem called for the federal government to suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde, Texas, and turn the small town into a “safe harbor” for illegals residing there.

Speaking to CNN on Tuesday, Kayyem cited the demographics of the area of the shooting to highlight the importance of halting immigration enforcement there.

Last month, Kayyem argued against referring to a New York City subway station shooting that injured more than two dozen people as an act of “terrorism,” a term she said should be reserved for political acts such as the January 6 Capitol riot.

In February, she called to slash the tires of the Canadian trucker convoy and arrest the drivers protesting their government’s strict coronavirus policies.

In December, Kayyem accused former President Donald Trump of “leading a terror movement.”

In 2015, she protested against arming people in soft targets such as schools and public venues to prevent attacks.

CNN's Juliette Kayyem Demands Federal Government Suspend Immigration Enforcement in Uvalde

She's making the Carlson/Ingraham face, lol
 

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