2 out of the last 3 years

#51
#51
volshogs said:
Rexvol, sorry to make it personal, but since you puked up more negative crap on here, here goes. Yes, it is acceptable to almost beat LSU. Don't hold yourself out there as "the voice of reason" if you are just another idiot who expects to win every single game every single year. Yes, of course winning is the ultimate goal- thanks for that amazing insight, but in today's incredibly competitive environment you can only ask for your team to prepare to the best of their abilities and fight like hell to the best of their abilities. You can't and won't win every game. Yes, the performances against UF and UA left much to be desired, but at least in part it's good coaching that gets a season like that turned around, which CPF et al did. A 10 win season is quite acceptable to me and any other fan who is realistic about the level of play out there today. I hope just like you that we win every time, and I hope for another national title, but even the mighty Gators dropped 4 last year with the Heisman Trophy winner on the the team. It's tough out there man, so get a grip and appreciate the great program you've been enjoying and stop complaining when every game is not a W and every recruit is not rated 5*.
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just to play devil's advocate here...

i think the people that are so frustrated with losses to lsu, florida and the like feel that the coaches and players aren't performing to the best of their ability. while we have little to compare the players to when they come to UT (h.s. and college is like apples and oranges), we know Fulmer is capable of amazing performances. some just feel the bar is no longer set that high, either for him or for the kids and that mediocrity (albeit by the very high standards of spoiled UT football fans) is becoming the status quo.

sure you can't win every game, but your chances are a whole hell of a lot better when you're REALLY trying.

i like what coach summit said about her job after the loss at stanford, "my job is to raise the bar every day." she actually lives by that statement. we could use a lot more of that attitude on the football side. i'm only half kidding when i say she should coach the football team. i think even as an advisor, a motivational speaker, her perspective and attitute would be invaluable to the team.
 
#54
#54
kkep48 said:
Fulmer was already a piss poor gameday coach, take away the recruiting aspect and what do we have??
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Exactly. The one thing he always had going for him was the recruiting. Take that away and there's really no reason to have him around.
 
#55
#55
kkep48 said:
Fulmer was already a piss poor gameday coach, take away the recruiting aspect and what do we have??
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still have a pretty good coach (and good person) who is coaching players who want to wear the orange. Sad you can't see that
 
#56
#56
volshogs said:
Rexvol, sorry to make it personal, but since you puked up more negative crap on here, here goes. Yes, it is acceptable to almost beat LSU. Don't hold yourself out there as "the voice of reason" if you are just another idiot who expects to win every single game every single year. Yes, of course winning is the ultimate goal- thanks for that amazing insight, but in today's incredibly competitive environment you can only ask for your team to prepare to the best of their abilities and fight like hell to the best of their abilities. You can't and won't win every game. Yes, the performances against UF and UA left much to be desired, but at least in part it's good coaching that gets a season like that turned around, which CPF et al did. A 10 win season is quite acceptable to me and any other fan who is realistic about the level of play out there today. I hope just like you that we win every time, and I hope for another national title, but even the mighty Gators dropped 4 last year with the Heisman Trophy winner on the the team. It's tough out there man, so get a grip and appreciate the great program you've been enjoying and stop complaining when every game is not a W and every recruit is not rated 5*.
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what a stupid comment...so while it's acceptable to win 10 game...it's also ok to lose 3 or 4 every year....NO IT'S NOT!
 
#58
#58
ShowMeVol said:
IMO....nothing moronic about volhogs comments
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well i tell you what then showme....when your cheering for the 10 wins and an almost win...might as well be cheerring for the 3 to 4 L's that come with it also...the bar has been raised higher than 10 wins....but i guess thats what you'll settle for
 
#59
#59
I40VOL said:
well i tell you what then show me....when your cheering for the 10 wins and an almost win...might as well be cheerring for the 3 to 4 L's that come with it also...the bar has been raised higher than 10 wins....but i guess thats what you'll settle for
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First.....you might want to work on putting a coherent sentence togetherÂ…Â…secondÂ….I am willing to give our new coaches a chance before I declare Tennessee football is ruined beyond repair.
 
#61
#61
ShowMeVol said:
First.....you might want to work on putting a coherent sentence togetherÂ…Â…secondÂ….I am willing to give our new coaches a chance before I declare Tennessee football is ruined beyond repair.
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i doubt anyone had a problem reading that but you...truth hurts...problem is it's people like you that view our problems thru orange tinted glasses
 
#62
#62
ShowMeVol said:
First.....you might want to work on putting a coherent sentence togetherÂ…Â…secondÂ….I am willing to give our new coaches a chance before I declare Tennessee football is ruined beyond repair.
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Thank you! Good statement. :good!:
 
#63
#63
Well guys, I don't think I'm "stupid" or "moronic" for cheering my Vols (from the 50 by the way!) in Atlanta and being extremely proud of their efforts or for feeling satisfied that they gave it everything they had. I'm not saying that I'm content with any loss, but that it is acceptable not to win every game. I sat in the Georgia Dome after the championship disappointed, but proud. Even the most dominant teams lose games. Should a Patriots fan deem this season "unacceptable" because they lost the Super Bowl? Do they suck because they haven't won a Super Bowl in a few years? Should they bench Brady or fire Belicheck? Sometimes, you have to shake hands and tip your hat to the teams that beat you and move on. And besides, surely we can all agree that at least we didn't lay an egg at home against La Monroe like the devil's team did last year (nonetheless, today belongs to them despite their problems). Hey, I'm just trying to say that we've got a great team, a great coach, and a lot to be thankful for. Go Vols.
 
#65
#65
ShowMeVol said:
Rex....remind me...was it last year or the year before that Vandy won the SECE....won 10 games....won a New Year's Day Bowl....and finished #12 in the country?
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Vandy is consistently happy with almost beating someone. Which you seem to advocate as an acceptable attitude on the Hill.
 
#66
#66
ShowMeVol said:
Rex....remind me...was it last year or the year before that Vandy won the SECE....won 10 games....won a New Year's Day Bowl....and finished #12 in the country?
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Is that how far we've fallen. We now have to list our accomplishments against Vandy's to look good?

Winning the east isn't important. Winning 10 games doesn't have the same punch that it used to. Won a New Year's day bowl. Who cares? It's the freakin outback bowl.

10 wins and outback bowls would be fine if sandwiched between an SEC Championship every few(4-5) years(that's victory, not loss). They should not be be your crowning achievment over a 9 year span.
 
#67
#67
TheDeeble said:
Is that how far we've fallen. We now have to list our accomplishments against Vandy's to look good?

Winning the east isn't important. Winning 10 games doesn't have the same punch that it used to. Won a New Year's day bowl. Who cares? It's the freakin outback bowl.

10 wins and outback bowls would be fine if sandwiched between an SEC Championship every few(4-5) years(that's victory, not loss). They should not be be your crowning achievment over a 9 year span.
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AMEN AND AMEN
 
#70
#70
I agree that not getting a DT or 1 or 2 more OL hurts but if Brandon Warren gets in plus Morely being added and the maturity of G. Williams is not being taken seriously enough.

Give this staff a full year b/c the new guys are supposed to be very good recruiters.
 
#71
#71
rexvol said:
Vandy is consistently happy with almost beating someone. Which you seem to advocate as an acceptable attitude on the Hill.
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Rex...in the statement I made below...where does it mention "almost beating someone"...so don't twist things to your advantage....I didn't advocate almost beating someone as an acceptable attitude...re-read my last statement below....


Rex....remind me...was it last year or the year before that Vandy won the SECE....won 10 games....won a New Year's Day Bowl....and finished #12 in the country?
 
#72
#72
awenk81 said:
I agree that not getting a DT or 1 or 2 more OL hurts but if Brandon Warren gets in plus Morely being added and the maturity of G. Williams is not being taken seriously enough.

Give this staff a full year b/c the new guys are supposed to be very good recruiters.
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Thanks for being a voice of reason...it's good to hear a non knee-jerk, negative statement from time to time
 
#73
#73
volshogs said:
Well guys, I don't think I'm "stupid" or "moronic" for cheering my Vols (from the 50 by the way!) in Atlanta and being extremely proud of their efforts or for feeling satisfied that they gave it everything they had. I'm not saying that I'm content with any loss, but that it is acceptable not to win every game. I sat in the Georgia Dome after the championship disappointed, but proud. Even the most dominant teams lose games. Should a Patriots fan deem this season "unacceptable" because they lost the Super Bowl? Do they suck because they haven't won a Super Bowl in a few years? Should they bench Brady or fire Belicheck? Sometimes, you have to shake hands and tip your hat to the teams that beat you and move on. And besides, surely we can all agree that at least we didn't lay an egg at home against La Monroe like the devil's team did last year (nonetheless, today belongs to them despite their problems). Hey, I'm just trying to say that we've got a great team, a great coach, and a lot to be thankful for. Go Vols.
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that's not what you said to in your earlier post. you boldly stated that it was acceptable to lose if it's by a slim margin. I could not disagree more. It is never accetable to "almost win", when that becomes acceptable on the Hill then we've offically become Vanderbilt in football.
 
#74
#74
rexvol said:
that's not what you said to in your earlier post. you boldly stated that it was acceptable to lose if it's by a slim margin. I could not disagree more. It is never accetable to "almost win", when that becomes acceptable on the Hill then we've offically become Vanderbilt in football.
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WOW....Rex...come on....I am showmevol....not volshogs...so again....that's not what I said.
 
#75
#75
Rivals team rankings

04': 11
05': 4
06': 23
07': 3
08': 36

2/5 last of we've had a top 5 class. 3/5 we've had top 11 class. 2 bad years won't bring us down that much if at all. These guys won't be playing until a year or 2 atleast anyways. We will be back in the top 10 in recruiting next year. Mark it down!
 
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