$200 Million in Debt, Tennessee's Dave Hart Hopes to Stop the Bleeding

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bamawriter said:
Very topical response.

It worries me that you've been googling incest rates. Looking for a tolerant locale to ply your trade?
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I doubt he got any real statistics..probably just judging by the examples we see around here that have a red turd sticker on their car
 
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Whenever someone complained on this sight about how bad hamiltion was at hiring coaches at ut it was always countered with how great he was at raising money for the program. That has now proven to be false. After he and his department gave millions to former coaches no longer employed by the school he must have found a way for his own long term support. This is bull crap is there no control over the schools financial dept. $200 million in the state must find the cause and dicharge those responsible, NOW!!!
 
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YorkVol said:
I would think there is a difference in revenue between ESPNU, ESPN3 and ESPN as well as noon vs 7pm start times.
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Television revenue is not paid to individual teams (unless you are Notre Dame). Conferences revenue share similar to the NFL. As long as any school is playing in the prime time slot, UT get its share. Same goes for every other slot. And, I am not certain, but I do believe ESPN negotiates for general television rights with the SEC. Otherwise, they would not have the flexibility to move the games around as they do.

I live in the St. Louis television market. And, until this past year, it was not an SEC market. Even in St. Louis, nearly ALL SEC games were televised. This past year, there were even more SEC games on television.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
How many years has the UTAD been paying the $7-$8 Million or so a year to Jimmy Cheek and the academic side?

I could be wrong but very few if any other SEC school did that?
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It is generally a rarity to be contributing so much to the academic side, though some form of contribution isn't that rare. It was happening prior to Cheek, however. In fact, Cheek was the one finally willing to let the process be suspended while a new arragement is negotiated by the two sides.
 
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It has been a case of fiscal mismanagement under the prior athletic administration, not an academic issue. It's about time people quit acting like there is a battle between the two sides or some sort of hamstringing being imposed on athletics by academics. That's just a sorry excuse for the issues of past seasons and is patently false.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
The majority of schools donate to the academic side. We're just broke right now and needed the money for a new coaching staff
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I think very few, if any other schools AD donate to the academic side...plus most state schools take tax money to help their AD, UT doesn't .
 
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MOST other public schools in the SEC (YES YOU UF!) receive a TON of money from tax revenue etc. that help fund their athletic departments. UT athletics uses absolutely ZERO public money on athletics. ALL private funding.
 
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keckjm said:
Or just pay big money to a great coach and make the money up by winning some friggin games and filling the seats on Saturdays!
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That is the very last thing that would happen. I mean it. Throw nine other ides out there and this one would become #10.
 
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jeff1vol said:
MOST other public schools in the SEC (YES YOU UF!) receive a TON of money from tax revenue etc. that help fund their athletic departments. UT athletics uses absolutely ZERO public money on athletics. ALL private funding.
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Does UT have a student activity fee?
 
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KBVol said:
Wow! And why the hell are releasing this type of negative information about our athletic department the week before national signing day? I know most recruits probably don't understand an interest payment from their own arse, but why leak this out now? We need as much positive right now as possible not this.....
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Because, in Hart's case, this is a terminal case of the doofuses. Sadly, there is no cure for this condition.
 
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I'll do my part this fall and attend some more games. This past year I went to the Florida and Bama games. Going to shoot for 3-4 games this year
 
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volboy81 said:
I think very few, if any other schools AD donate to the academic side...plus most state schools take tax money to help their AD, UT doesn't .
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There are actually very few schools that even operate the AD in the black. Of the ones that do, many are in the SEC and those schools do donate significant money to academics.

Those schools that do not break even are funded with public funds. Otherwise, they could not exist.
 
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jeff1vol said:
MOST other public schools in the SEC (YES YOU UF!) receive a TON of money from tax revenue etc. that help fund their athletic departments. UT athletics uses absolutely ZERO public money on athletics. ALL private funding.
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i don't believe that's the case at all.

i believe florida actually functions exactly like tennessee (no jokes here). the university athletic association is run completely separate from the university.

http://www.uaa.ufl.edu/uaa/Executive_Summary_2012-2013.pdf

i don't believe they get a dime from the state.
 
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KBVol said:
Wow! And why the hell are releasing this type of negative information about our athletic department the week before national signing day? I know most recruits probably don't understand an interest payment from their own arse, but why leak this out now? We need as much positive right now as possible not this.....
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Unfortunately, we have so-called fans who live for the explicit purposes of:

--Demeaning the program at every opportunity
--Digging for anything they can find to complain about
--Refusing to look forward positively
--Appearing informed by dragging out negativism
--Exhibiting how anti-Vol they are
--Proving their utter lack of cognitive awareness
--A need to criticize something and if nothing can be found, invent something to criticize
 
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jps2194 said:
It's public information. Granted, they don't have to talk publicly about it, but they aren't releasing anything that isn't public record.
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Ok, agree, but am I the only one thinking the timing is a little suspicious? Probably not a deal breaker with any recruits but it still speaks to the possible lack of program stability. Just sayin cause it feels like we have zero margin of error these days
 
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UTGhostHunter said:
It has been a case of fiscal mismanagement under the prior athletic administration, not an academic issue. It's about time people quit acting like there is a battle between the two sides or some sort of hamstringing being imposed on athletics by academics. That's just a sorry excuse for the issues of past seasons and is patently false.
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That's the perfect way to put it.. We got "hamstringed" by Hamilton!
 
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