2012 SF Derek Reese - New TN Commit

#53
#53
VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
Alaska- That could be the most retarded thing i've ever seen anybody post. Those "fast games" sure brought us multiple championships in while Bruce was here, didn't it.
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Talk about retarded. Bruce took the program farther than anyone else in our history. Oh well, three years will
pass quickly. GBO
 
#54
#54
Even though the NCAA's ruling just blew by, it takes some time to build rapport with coaches and recruits. We should grant Martin a little more time on the recruiting front
 
#56
#56
bamacheats said:
Holy S! Cuonzo is black Buzz!
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Buzz was a good recruiter. He just was not a very good coach. Cuonzo will be a much better coach and we will will have a good stable program when we recover from the current mess.
 
#57
#57
WesternKyVol said:
the offer list. 10 out of 10 successful coaches can't be wrong.

Pretty sure Murray State is the team from Ky, whose success we want to emulate.
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To clarify:

--regarding skills, you have no idea about his strength, speed, agility, elevation, shot, ability to drive, handles, using both hands effectively, defense, running the floor, post up game, or rebounding ability, correct?

--regarding offers, you have no idea if he went to a bunch of camps, played aau ball/tourneys around the country, sent out tapes, sent out letters, had his coach/school send out tapes/letters, etc, right?

--regarding murray state and his offer list, murray would have beaten several sec teams, and has, over the past few years, but if this kid had an offer from shoddy teams like ole miss, ms st, ark, auburn, lsu and ga/bama to an extent, you would feel better and it shows he's a player? Because a crappy sec team offers?

There is so much idiocy on this site at times that it is laughable.
 
#58
#58
I truly want CCM to succeed and I hope he proves me wrong, but he has done nothing in recruiting so far that makes me believe he'll bring in top talent.
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#60
#60
Pearl built a successful program on inherited players, transfers, and JUCO bandaids at PG. His high school recruiting track record, other than Chism, Harris, and Hopson, is not
good.
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#61
#61
VOLINVONORE said:
One good one out of three was not even average. Chism, however, was great and made up for the other two.
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I'm glad you were the first to reply to my post. I was about to destroy one of the "3 years and a cloud of Pearl" people. (But, please feel free to post, guys!)

Reese could sit on the bench for 4 years and be better than 67% of Pearl's first class. And I was a huge Pearl fan. I'm a fan of every UT coach. Until they're gone.....
 
#62
#62
pl3 said:
To clarify:

--regarding skills, you have no idea about his strength, speed, agility, elevation, shot, ability to drive, handles, using both hands effectively, defense, running the floor, post up game, or rebounding ability, correct?

--regarding offers, you have no idea if he went to a bunch of camps, played aau ball/tourneys around the country, sent out tapes, sent out letters, had his coach/school send out tapes/letters, etc, right?

--regarding murray state and his offer list, murray would have beaten several sec teams, and has, over the past few years, but if this kid had an offer from shoddy teams like ole miss, ms st, ark, auburn, lsu and ga/bama to an extent, you would feel better and it shows he's a player? Because a crappy sec team offers?

There is so much idiocy on this site at times that it is laughable.
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So for the record, you support us competing with mid-majors for prospects?

IMO the strength of many mid-major teams, like Murray State, is not their talent level, but their coaching, schemes, and intensity.

Way to get around the no name-calling policy by calling me an idiot without really doing it. Clever.:clapping:
 
#63
#63
Umm out of all the gloom and doom have any of the people screaming the sky is falling over this watched one second of tape on him? Googled his HS stats? Did any looking into him other than noticing a few people before you whined about it, so he must be bad?

How about before we plan the oust we give the guy a chance to show his stuff on the court. To this point no one has any idea What kind of system he is going to run. We can make educated guesses based on his past but for all we know he only ran that system out of necessity. Personally I don't give a f what kind of system he runs as long as it is effective.

Also the performance of the guys he brought into this class out of desperation will tell a lot more about his ability to evaluate and develop talent than anything. Personally I never thought either of those was a strength of Pearl. I can guarantee you at no point will there be an NBA interview where some all star player credits Bruce Pearl for developing him to that level. mostly because all the players Pearl put in the League went to Euro or the Developmental League. Even Harris might end up there. I have so far been impressed with everything I have read on this site and others on the guys he brought in and their impact thus far on the team.

All of this is however useless until a ball gets tipped in an actual game. This commitment will also have no context until the rest of the class is signed. For all we know the kid grows 2 inches and gains 50 pounds before he hits campus and all of a sudden we have a beast in the post with a legit outside shot.
 
#65
#65
Basketball rankings are mainly athleticism if you can jump high dunk hard and break odd a few people your gonna be highly rated the shooters get over looked
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#69
#69
Offer list is uninspiring. Guess we'll see how he and the rest of the class pan out.


Still, welcome, Derek.
 
#70
#70
WesternKyVol said:
So for the record, you support us competing with mid-majors for prospects?

IMO the strength of many mid-major teams, like Murray State, is not their talent level, but their coaching, schemes, and intensity.

Way to get around the no name-calling policy by calling me an idiot without really doing it. Clever.:clapping:
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Quite a few mid majors have had a lot more success than us in the NCAA's in fact quite a few every year. This ain't football and the fact he got a kid to come to Knoxville over even a small campus in Florida is pretty impressive.

A lot of people tend for forget to put the Pearl phenomenon in perspective. Most of his actual success was on a PR level only. There was actually very little tangible production on the court in the bigger scheme of things. He had one great year. he took UT Basketball to a level it has never been on but I think people are fooling themselves if they think the level he took us to was a Duke, UNC, Kentucky level or oven a Gonzaga level. We are in position IF CCM can produce something close to decent ball this year with the mess he was left with, to build on that.

People are fooling themselves if they think a winning season is a given this year. If we play .500 ball this year we are doing well and that would have been true if Pearl was here.

Look at the mess the roster was in. And they are holes Pearl built over the last 3 years with bad recruiting. He never had luck recruiting at the 1, 4 or 5 spots an d over the years recruited a lot of tweener 2's and 3's and brought in JC point guards. We have one true point on the team this year (Washpaun) and he is an unheralded Martin recruit who I personally think is eventually going to be the best point we have had in years. Which ain't saying much.
 
#71
#71
pimo1 said:
Umm out of all the gloom and doom have any of the people screaming the sky is falling over this watched one second of tape on him? Googled his HS stats? Did any looking into him other than noticing a few people before you whined about it, so he must be bad?

How about before we plan the oust we give the guy a chance to show his stuff on the court. To this point no one has any idea What kind of system he is going to run. We can make educated guesses based on his past but for all we know he only ran that system out of necessity. Personally I don't give a f what kind of system he runs as long as it is effective.

Also the performance of the guys he brought into this class out of desperation will tell a lot more about his ability to evaluate and develop talent than anything. Personally I never thought either of those was a strength of Pearl. I can guarantee you at no point will there be an NBA interview where some all star player credits Bruce Pearl for developing him to that level. mostly because all the players Pearl put in the League went to Euro or the Developmental League. Even Harris might end up there. I have so far been impressed with everything I have read on this site and others on the guys he brought in and their impact thus far on the team.

All of this is however useless until a ball gets tipped in an actual game. This commitment will also have no context until the rest of the class is signed. For all we know the kid grows 2 inches and gains 50 pounds before he hits campus and all of a sudden we have a beast in the post with a legit outside shot.
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There has never been a bad football or basketball signing according to many posters.
 
#73
#73
WesternKyVol said:
So for the record, you support us competing with mid-majors for prospects?

IMO the strength of many mid-major teams, like Murray State, is not their talent level, but their coaching, schemes, and intensity.

Way to get around the no name-calling policy by calling me an idiot without really doing it. Clever.:clapping:
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For the record, I don't care what the star count or offer list is as long as a kid can play ball. People don't understand how many good players are out there, and that some are noticed more than others because of created hype. There are SEC players that couldn't crack the lineup at mid majors and mid major players that would crack the lineup on an SEC squad. And yes, i'll take a team with some ball players that is intense, has good schemes, and good coaching all day. Not sure what your point is there. I supported BP, but we only had one "basketball" player on the team last year and it was Harris.
Problem is that most around here want to compare recruits to Cal's at ky. Well, we'll never get those types of players, so get over it. Cal is abusing a system that allows him to. UT can't and won't.
Last. I wasn't really even referencing you with the idiocy comment. Other earlier comments suited it better.
 
#74
#74
pimo1 said:
Quite a few mid majors have had a lot more success than us in the NCAA's in fact quite a few every year. This ain't football and the fact he got a kid to come to Knoxville over even a small campus in Florida is pretty impressive.

A lot of people tend for forget to put the Pearl phenomenon in perspective. Most of his actual success was on a PR level only. There was actually very little tangible production on the court in the bigger scheme of things. He had one great year. he took UT Basketball to a level it has never been on but I think people are fooling themselves if they think the level he took us to was a Duke, UNC, Kentucky level or oven a Gonzaga level. We are in position IF CCM can produce something close to decent ball this year with the mess he was left with, to build on that.

People are fooling themselves if they think a winning season is a given this year. If we play .500 ball this year we are doing well and that would have been true if Pearl was here.

Look at the mess the roster was in. And they are holes Pearl built over the last 3 years with bad recruiting. He never had luck recruiting at the 1, 4 or 5 spots an d over the years recruited a lot of tweener 2's and 3's and brought in JC point guards. We have one true point on the team this year (Washpaun) and he is an unheralded Martin recruit who I personally think is eventually going to be the best point we have had in years. Which ain't saying much.
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Umm, the bold part is outlandish. Pearl had to go. I agreed with the decision. To say that his success was just hype, however, is beyond ridiculous.
 
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