2020 Presidential Race

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Orange_Crush said:
It can't get any more clear that the MS Pravda Media is carrying water for a candidate.

Russia supposedly spends a few thousand bucks on FB pages, and they are interfering with an election. The MSM slants to the point of propaganda...

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1972 Grad said:
I guess PJ thinks that Jill Stein, or whoever he supported, would have kept us death free.
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I know. I've never liked Trump, but I do think he's done better than the average president and far better than the recent crop of presidential clowns - all despite the supporting cast of millions of DC troglodytes. Sometimes the incessant trolling about Trump's crisis management breaks through my barriers.
 
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bigvols98 said:
When did middle class get to be over 400k/year?
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The math didnt add up to the Dems' wish list so they had to come after the other folk...they are talking canceling student debt...they would have to take every penny from every billionaire on Earth to cancel current debt only.. then they need some for illegal healthcare and the new green deal...its a big list
 
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utvolpj said:
You should also believe economists in conjunction with the science. That would have made for a much better solution
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Well a pseudo-genius in the pseudoscientific field of economics did say spend a lot now in a crisis and reap greater rewards later. Not that anybody has apparently ever been able to spend enough to fulfill the Keynesian fantasy.
 
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AM64 said:
If you were leading at a time of crisis and had agencies like the CDC, FEMA, etc reporting to you - agencies whose sole function was to deal with disease control and emergency measures - agencies who have been charged with developing contingency plans - agencies who have been charged with detecting, understanding, and managing infectious spread, would you choose to manage on your own or would you listen to the experts? Now suppose you figured out the agencies of experts were bureaucratic hollow shells with limited expertise, limited scientific knowledge, and limited contingency plans presented to you by over the bureaucrats, what would you do? Suppose that the country of origin is less than forthcoming about the pandemic and the world health monitoring people are worse than worthless - they are in bed with the fools that set the chain off, and you have no real good measure of the severity, how it's even transmitted, or how severe the effects including death rate, then what do you do?

Sorry, I know you dislike Trump, but he inherited a system (particularly a health crisis management system) rotten to the core - incompetent and unprepared. He ran on a platform of draining the swamp - hopefully that meant doing something about worthless and bloated federal bureaucracies, but what do you do when you've been hamstrung by the other side for three years and couldn't do something about the mess. Remember the adage about changing horses midstream ... well, it's a raging torrent and the stream is actually a river. It's really easy to play Monday morning QB and pretend that this is nothing when the accounts coming in about fatalities in other countries said differently. Trump's big failing was his pathetic methods of communication and ability to look the part of a leader in control; otherwise he probably bungled through as well as anybody else might have done in the situation. Had the dems been in control the "stimulus" would have had a lot more hidden components and student loans would have been erased all over the land.
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Nonsense. He replaced the swamp with his own swamp. If those report to him and still have inept leadership then that's on the boss. If you lack the ability to take in info from many different sources and form a plan then maybe you shouldn't be the leader. If you delegate all communication about the response to someone else while standing behind then nodding then you don't get to complain about their message.

He is a terrible communicator and leader with very limited critical thinking skills. This crisis proved that out

FYI the student loan elim would have done more good than handing his buddy Mnuchin a half trillion untraceable
 
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AM64 said:
You're slipping, hog. Should have asked to name any positive accomplishment in anything.
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They gave us Obamacare and thanks to that I lost my retirement health care plan and now it's going to cost me over $900 a month and have a nearly $6000 deductible, so once I fork over nearly $17,000 I'll have healthcare coverage. That's not the affordable healthcare I need. Thanks alot Obama.
 
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VolStrom said:
They gave us Obamacare and thanks to that I lost my retirement health care plan and now it's going to cost me over $900 a month and have a nearly $6000 deductible, so once I fork over nearly $17,000 I'll have healthcare coverage. That's not the affordable healthcare I need. Thanks alot Obama.
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I just saw that POS on talking to his constituents in a halting Negro dialect. Damn, I'm glad we don't have to listen to him much anymore.
 
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