2020 Presidential Race

[Orange_Crush]

You are acting as if this is some bombshell that is going to influence the outcome of the election and it's not. There is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Joe Biden. This is reminiscent of the "Lock her up!" nonsense from four years ago... which was quickly dropped after the election. It's a pathetic last ditch effort to save a losing candidate, who has never had a positive message to run on.

I'm posting information as it comes out. If you take issue with that, there's a feature for it. Or... You could look into it and get up to speed before commenting and advertising your ignorance. Either option is fine with me, as either silence or knowledge would be a better look for you.

Speaking of such... How about the link to the Barr report you somehow tried to use as proof of your half-cocked reply?

 

[Boston Vol]

NBC News / Marist Poll

North Carolina

Joe Biden (D) ............ 52%
Donald Trump (R) ... 46%

Ouch.

In 2016 The final NBC poll of NC had Clinton with a 6 point lead. Hopefully for their sake they’ve gotten a little better at this polling thing.

 

[GAVol]

You are acting as if this is some bombshell that is going to influence the outcome of the election and it's not. There is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Joe Biden. This is reminiscent of the "Lock her up!" nonsense from four years ago... which was quickly dropped after the election. It's a pathetic last ditch effort to save a losing candidate, who has never had a positive message to run on.

Once the Steele Dossier got taken seriously, all bets were off.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It had to do with turnout. Obama owned the enthusiasm gap over Romney. The polls are not predictive if they can’t accurately account for turnout which they clearly have struggled to do.

When has a higher than expected voter turnout ever been of benefit to a Republican candidate?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Once the Steele Dossier got taken seriously, all bets were off.

Ouch. Savage because it's appropriate.

 

[RavinDave]

Certainly hope so, but if it's even close, it sends a powerful message to anyone willing to hear.

Doesn’t look like it’s going to even be close. His stand on oil & gas is not very popular in Texas lol.

 

[Ten_Titans]

It’s a frightening reality but the MSM has voluntarily become the Ministry of Truth. I don’t see any path back from where they’ve gone in the last 5 yrs. They are now an unofficial organ of the Democratic Party.

One conselation prize if Biden wins and the Dems ever retake the senate, is that MSM will finally be killed in favor of New age media.

No one is going to listen to them caress the balls and polish the shaft on the Harris-Biden administration 24/7. No one wants to listen to that.

The ugly truth is that no one benefits more than the MSM by having Donny in office. TDS drives ratings. They are going to be dead in the water when they realize bragging about raising taxes and anchoring the economy doesn't rake in the viewership.

 

[tvolsfan]

Certainly hope so, but if it's even close, it sends a powerful message to anyone willing to hear.

Nah. Win or GTFO

 

[Rifleman]

In 2016 The final NBC poll of NC had Clinton with a 6 point lead. Hopefully for their sake they’ve gotten a little better at this polling thing.

They had

Clinton 47
Trump 41
Johnson 8

Final was

Trump 50
Clinton 46
Johnson 3

Definitely a bad miss.

But even good pollsters miss, which is why you have to watch the aggregators.

RCP aggregate had

Trump 47
Clinton 46

 

[1972 Grad]

Did he just suffer a mini stroke

WTF was that?

 

[Y9 Vol]

They had

Clinton 47
Trump 41
Johnson 8

Final was

Trump 50
Clinton 46
Johnson 3

Definitely a bad miss.

But even good pollsters miss, which is why you have to watch the aggregators.

RCP aggregate had

Trump 47
Clinton 46

The "good" pollsters have predicted 25 out of the last 27 elections correctly. Want to take a WILD guess who they have this year in a landslide??????

 

[BowlBrother85]

Once the Steele Dossier got taken seriously, all bets were off.

Once the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower was confirmed to have taken place between Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, Don Jr. and Russian officials including Natalia Veselnitskaya, and both Trump and Trump Jr. were confirmed to have given false and misleading statements regarding who was in attendance and what was discussed at that meeting... then the Russian collusion story was taken seriously. You also had Don Jr.'s text to Rob Goldstone: "If it's what you say it is? I love it!" ... or words to that effect. The Steele Dossier did not drive that story... the June 9, 2016 meeting did and the lies which were told to cover it up.

 

[Boston Vol]

They had

Clinton 47
Trump 41
Johnson 8

Final was

Trump 50
Clinton 46
Johnson 3

Definitely a bad miss.

But even good pollsters miss, which is why you have to watch the aggregators.

RCP aggregate had

Trump 47
Clinton 46

I agree that you have to pay attention to the aggregate. I was just simply pointing out that I wouldn’t put much stock into the NBC poll given how badly they missed four years ago.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Oh, please. Bunch of Sallys.

The economy has bounced back... after being shut down in Q2. SURPRISE?! Of course not.

Point is, we're still down compared to pre-COVID. And now, between the Second Wave and the impending sh*t storm election (Trump will NEVER concede), the economy is gonna get smacked again as people hunker down...

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If you think things are bad now, wait until Biden shuts the country down while raising taxes. That will fix things.

 

[DC_Vol]

One conselation prize if Biden wins and the Dems ever retake the senate, is that MSM will finally be killed in favor of New age media.

No one is going to listen to them caress the balls and polish the shaft on the Harris-Biden administration 24/7. No one wants to listen to that.

They did between 2009 - 2017.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

WTF was that?

He had too much Jack Daniels & coke that day for lunch & got excited when given the opportunity to speak.

 

[volinbham]

Once the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower was confirmed to have taken place between Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, Don Jr. and Russian officials including Natalia Veselnitskaya, and both Trump and Trump Jr. were confirmed to have given false and misleading statements regarding who was in attendance and what was discussed at that meeting... then the Russian collusion story was taken seriously. You also had Don Jr.'s text to Rob Goldstone: "If it's what you say it is? I love it!" ... or words to that effect. The Steele Dossier did not drive that story... the June 9, 2016 meeting did and the lies which were told to cover it up.

LOL. The meeting would not have raised an eyebrow if not for the Steele Dossier existence. It was being passed around and "leaked". Also the jury is still out if Fusion set the whole meeting up and then added that to the info they were distributing.

Can't believe you are still clinging to this narrative.

 

[BowlBrother85]

LOL. The meeting would not have raised an eyebrow if not for the Steele Dossier existence. It was being passed around and "leaked". Also the jury is still out if Fusion set the whole meeting up and then added that to the info they were distributing.

Can't believe you are still clinging to this narrative.

That is ridiculous.

 

[volinbham]

If you think things are bad now, wait until Biden shuts the country down while raising taxes. That will fix things.

It really is the game plan - taxes are first on the agenda and from all Biden tells us about how he'd handle the 'rona differently it involves more restrictions rather than less.

 

[volinbham]

That is ridiculous.

It is because of the dossier that people were looking at Team Trump's actions. How did word of the meeting get out?

 

[BeecherVol]

LOL. The meeting would not have raised an eyebrow if not for the Steele Dossier existence. It was being passed around and "leaked". Also the jury is still out if Fusion set the whole meeting up and then added that to the info they were distributing.

Can't believe you are still clinging to this narrative.

The partisan is extra strong with that one.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Once the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower was confirmed to have taken place between Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, Don Jr. and Russian officials including Natalia Veselnitskaya, and both Trump and Trump Jr. were confirmed to have given false and misleading statements regarding who was in attendance and what was discussed at that meeting... then the Russian collusion story was taken seriously. You also had Don Jr.'s text to Rob Goldstone: "If it's what you say it is? I love it!" ... or words to that effect. The Steele Dossier did not drive that story... the June 9, 2016 meeting did and the lies which were told to cover it up.

Kind of like the digitally and Senate verified emails thanking Hunter for the meeting with VP Biden, after the meetings had occurred, and Joe's lie/denials of the meeting to cover them up?

You mean like that?

But here's what's VERY interesting about your responses. Your responses have to do with the outcome of this information and not the corruption that the information indicates. Your responses are mocking the thought that this will harm the Bidens. Your responses are showing ZERO care for the corruption indicated by the information that's coming out.

It's most as though... And I know this will be hard for anyone to believe, but... It's almost as though you don't give a XXXX about corruption in office and just want your side to win.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Kind of like the digitally and Senate verified emails thanking Hunter for the meeting with VP Biden, after the meetings had occurred, and Joe's lie/denials of the meeting to cover them up?

You mean like that?

But here's what's VERY interesting about your responses. Your responses have to do with the outcome of this information and not the corruption that the information indicates. Your responses are mocking the thought that this will harm the Bidens. Your responses are showing ZERO care for the corruption indicated by the information that's coming out.

It's most as though... And I know this will be hard for anyone to believe, but... It's almost as though you don't give a XXXX about corruption in office and just want your side to win.

You haven't pointed to a single crime having been committed by Joe Biden. You have defended Donald Trump for withholding aid to the Ukraine, so he could use it as leverage against President Zelensky's willingness to announce an investigation into him. So... basically, cry me a river. It's even more disingenuous than "Lock her up!". You know this will never be mentioned again after next Tuesday.

 

[luthervol]

Its not going to happen. The gap you see will close because your guy won. Reality is the gap is still there. Joe aint changing that.

There will always be a gap. The gap is forever changing. Some people and some things cause the gap to widen. Some people and some things cause the gap to narrow.
Trump is the worst ever at widening the overall gap.

Also: what 10 people find to be gap narrowing, 4 others may find to be gap widening.

 

[tvolsfan]

You haven't pointed to a single crime having been committed by Joe Biden. You have defended Donald Trump for withholding aid to the Ukraine, so he could use it as leverage against President Zelensky's willingness to announce an investigation into him. So... basically, cry me a river. It's even more disingenuous than "Lock her up!". You know this will never be mentioned again after next Tuesday.

No, no, that was about saving America from Hunter Biden! For real!