2020 Presidential Race

[MarcoVol]

I was told by some on the left that rioting is protesting.

I’m not “some on the left”.

He said I advocated for rioting and violence.

 

[Weezer]

Agreed.

Both sides of the isle have pitched the word "unity" out there over the years. It doesn't exist, and thats not changing.

The parties do not want unity. They continually talk about their "base". Uniting people would shrink that base, not grow it. Unity goes against everything political parties stand for, unless it's being united in what they believe. There's no room for independent thought.

 

[BeecherVol]

The parties do not want unity. They continually talk about their "base". Uniting people would shrink that base, not grow it. Unity goes against everything political parties stand for, unless it's being united in what they believe. There's no room for independent thought.

No, but they have to talk about as if its a goal to be achieved.

 

[TennesseeTopHat]

You're just describing why our system is set up this way and don't even realize it. The FF understood

Go to a popular vote and the US breaks up in 2 election cycles

Yeah why update something that was put in place 200 years ago when the landscape was completely different and the whole reason it was put in place was to ensure that slave holding states could wield as much power as the north.

The US would not break up because of this. You really think a system where the miniority rules is just? Haha

 

[RikidyBones]

Yes, I absolutely would. We shouldn’t be making it harder to vote for no reason. Feel free to hold this against me later, I’m not Lindsey Graham

No reason? We knew when we were going to have this election 150 years ago. Despite a growing sentiment of mistrust in our election process(that's a healthy outcome to accomadate the few people who refuse to use the many resources and opportunities to vote) , you still think it's the best way? Only explanation is partisanship. If you ask me, do away with mail in ballots and have a strict process of request and deadline so people go vote in person with IDs. Then it leaves very few margin to dispute.

 

[lawgator1]

I agree with a lot of what he’s saying here. My family were all Democrats and I was raised Democrat but everyone of us flipped years ago for these exact reasons he lays out.

Yes, Dems have to jettison the far left activitsts just as the Republicans need to jettison the far right.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Is it really an issue of laziness during a pandemic? And Republicans have done pretty well with the mail-in vote. It's probably a slight edge for Democrats, but not what we were expecting. Undecided voters went for Trump in a big way. Even more so than 2016. This was an incredibly close election.

 

[DJimgo]

So a better option is to allow a few population centers to control the entire country?

Not necessarily but I definitely am not a fan of those 43 people in Wyoming and the DAkota's collectively having 3x the representation in Senate than the 40 million Americans in California.

 

[TennesseeTopHat]

Also the founding fathers did not want an electoral college. It was a bad compromise since they couldn’t come to an agreement. But again there’s no reason to revisit things that happened hundreds of years ago. No possible way it could be made better. We see this all the time with people refusing gay rights due to “the Bible”.

 

[RikidyBones]

Yeah why update something that was put in place 200 years ago when the landscape was completely different and the whole reason it was put in place was to ensure that slave holding states could wield as much power as the north.

The US would not break up because of this. You really think a system where the miniority rules is just? Haha

The amount of stupid in your post is astounding.

 

[VolnJC]

Looks like Trump increased his percentages with Hispanics, African Americans, and Jewish
Exit polls point to Trump gains among Jewish voters

 

[GSD82]

China's little b***h will not be a legitimate president, he will have won by cheating and that's clear. I figured they would cheat but I didn't see it happening is so many different states. I will never acknowledge him as our president

 

[Ttucke11]

Yeah a few population centers that account for the majority of the us population l. I don’t know how this is hard to understand.

Perfect for Dem leaders. They won’t even have to pretend to care about the South or the Plains. Just campaign in LA, Chicago, and NYC. Obviously policies and laws there will make my life in rural middle TN better.

 

[Weezer]

I don’t disagree with this. It’s the only options we’re given.

It's the only options we're given by the two major political parties that control this country. The citizenry does not control the country like they should. It's basically controlled by two political entities. At some point in the history of our country, people were basically told to pick a side, and far too many people fell in line rather than continue independent thought.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Not as many.

Not as many? NV is 32 in total population. Lol

 

[utvolpj]

Not necessarily but I definitely am not a fan of those 43 people in Wyoming and the DAkota's collectively having 3x the representation in Senate than the 40 million Americans in California.

The fewer ca policies the better imo

But that was also an issue when the ec was rolled out. It's why there are 2 houses and checks/balances

 

[McDad]

The parties do not want unity. They continually talk about their "base". Uniting people would shrink that base, not grow it. Unity goes against everything political parties stand for, unless it's being united in what they believe. There's no room for independent thought.

I may be a naive idealist but I do not believe unity would dictate less appeal to the base(s). Liberty, economic stability, a better future for our kids, peace, justice, et al....the high minded themes are shared among the majority.

 

[Weezer]

Lol pathetic. People complaining about voter fraud with no evidence at all. Let’s talk about how Biden won the popular vote by 4 million but due to electoral college - designed to give slave holding states equal power in the 1800s - we still have to wonder who won. Wonder why republicans don’t ever talk about that? A system they’ve gerrymandered to ensure the minority still has a hold on power.

You lost me when you were wrong about why the EC was implemented.

 

[RikidyBones]

Just to be clear, you’re saying absentee voters are lazy if they don’t fly in from other states or countries to vote in person on Election Day?

You didn't even read his post, did you?

 

[BowlBrother85]

China's little b***h will not be a legitimate president, he will have won by cheating and that's clear. I figured they would cheat but I didn't see it happening is so many different states. I will never acknowledge him as our president

How is that "clear"? You are using some of the same kind of bitter rhetoric that Democrats used four years ago. There will be investigation after investigation by Senate Republicans into the Bidens... and it will all prove something we already suspected - there really isn't much difference in the two parties. They both handle victory and defeat with the same amount of class - or lack thereof.

 

[37L1]

Not necessarily but I definitely am not a fan of those 43 people in Wyoming and the DAkota's collectively having 3x the representation in Senate than the 40 million Americans in California.

Cry me a river. California has the biggest share of electoral college votes based upon their representation in Congress, which is also the largest.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I’d be all for it, but I don’t know how you authenticate all those votes unless you make people register IP addresses or tie PINs to SS# which are randomly generated and texted at the time of vote or something. Seems like an incredible undertaking.

Tennessee machine prints your picks on a card and you walk over and slide it through the counter. That's all you need. The key is, at least in Pigeon Forge, you have to show your ID to enter the building and also when they check your name and address before voting.
All you need is voter ID and it stops all of this. That's the exact reason the democratic states fight against it.

 

[TennesseeTopHat]

The amount of stupid in your post is astounding.

Which part? You think things can’t be improved upon? You think minority rule is an essential part of democracy? You think going to a popular vote wouldn’t force the minority party to bring their policies more in line with the population? Seems like you just don’t want to change

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Yes, Dems have to jettison the far left activitsts just as the Republicans need to jettison the far right.

How about we all just follow the Constitution. It seems to have served us well over the last 200 plus years.

That is all the “right” wants to do.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Yeah why update something that was put in place 200 years ago when the landscape was completely different and the whole reason it was put in place was to ensure that slave holding states could wield as much power as the north.

The US would not break up because of this. You really think a system where the miniority rules is just? Haha

that would force elected officials not embrace those things which should long be gone. I find it ironic that donald embraced that and was embraced right back. McCain and Romney rejected it and was rejected too.